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Re: GUNS cocked locked and read to rock [Re: 888]
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Death and violence beget more death and violence. If I was ever violently threatened, I would do my best to help them out (turning the other cheek). People who are tortured to death or shot at generally are into some serious shit. I try to avoid such serious shit.
I understand how a lot of people would be timid about you having a gun. But to stop being your friend because of it? That's intolerant. And it's a shame.
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Re: GUNS cocked locked and read to rock [Re: 888]
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Hey bro, I understand.
I have seen what weapons do. It is very unsettling. Nothing is worse than innocent people being killed over mistake ID, bad intel, foolish and insane behavior.
However, when people demonize the "guns" it upsets me. When people drive drunk do we blame the car? Thomas Jefferson once said, "an armed society is a polite society". I believe that.
I also, carry a firearm. I am an American, I served my country, and I will be damned if anybody wants to tell me I am wrong for it. I simply refuse to be a victim and self preservation is an instinct I possess. Sorry, but if you want to victimize this man here, you get 2 to the sternum and 1 to the head. I don't miss and I don't hesitate. I will end a threat if I believe my life or the life of another innocent person could be at risk.
I understand about feeling alienated because you own and/or carry a weapon. I know the feeling.
let me ask you folks this, what sign do you want on your front door? "This is a gun free home, criminals welcome" or how about a B27 human profile silhouette with 10 to the 10 ring, and 5 to the dome peice?
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Re: GUNS cocked locked and read to rock [Re: USMCamputee]
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Re: GUNS cocked locked and read to rock [Re: USMCamputee]
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What if you misjudge the situation? What if you're blinded in a moment of rage and shoot someone? What if you decide that simply being robbed is enough reason to end someone's life? What if you hurt someone and then they seek vengeance on your loved ones?
I mean I understand that having a firearm is probably the best form of protection, but violence begets violence and peace begets peace. If you live in a place where your life is in constant danger, then I can maybe understand carrying a gun with you, but for your day to day life, do you carry a gun? Do you NEED to? Are you threatened?
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Re: GUNS cocked locked and read to rock [Re: USMCamputee]
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OOPS, wrong photo on the top. LMAO!
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Re: GUNS cocked locked and read to rock [Re: USMCamputee]
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Blinded by rage? Only the weak feel anger and rage. The strong have no emotion at all on the matter. It is simply a natural thing. Anger and rage is weakness, and it isn't a part of my daily training regiment.
I carry one because it is legal to where I live. I am not violent, but I am prepared. I live in a good neighborhood, I don't live in a situation where my life is constantly threatened. However, I carry a weapon 24/7, every day, all day, except when inside gov't buildings (it is illegal even w/a permit). I carry one because it is the most efficient tool to stop a threat. If someone wants to harm me (even financially through robbery) or another innocent person, I will just be cleaning the gene pool. I am sorry but I think I can judge the situation. I carry a multitude of other tools. Knives, flashlights, mace, a collapsable baton. I carry several tools to protect myself, and I will deploy them accordingly. I think I have spent enough time in high stress life or death situations to have the experience needed to make the proper judgement. It's called a war and I actually fought in one. It's called OIF, in case you didn't know, 665 Marines have given their lives so far, including six from my former attachment (1st Battalion, 3rd Marines, 3rd Expeditionary Force)
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Re: GUNS cocked locked and read to rock [Re: soulcircus]
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soulcircus said: i think the fact everyone has guns for protection and them being so available is the worst possible way to go about it.
OK, well the same could be said for drugs. Case in point. There are good and bad people everywhere. You can not blame the car the drunk drove, the drugs the guy was on when he killed x amount of people, you can't blame the gun when someone goes on a shooting spree. Would any of you folks like to be in your living rooms just chilling after a huge riot in your city, or after a major national disaster unarmed?
I am sorry if the nature of my posts seemed offensive or hostile to anyone here. I don't want to come off as an ass-hole, a nut job, or start a fight, you can't argue politics. You can't argue this kind of stuff here. I have nothing more to contribute, however if you would like to learn more about becoming a responsible law abiding firearm owner feel free to contact me.
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Re: GUNS cocked locked and read to rock [Re: soulcircus]
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I will chime in with this. If I was a little more agile with the prostheses, and felt that they were an asset and not a weakness, I would feel totally comfortable going hand to hand. It is a question of are you motivated enough? I am motivated enough.
With that mindset cars should be illegal, alcohol should be illegal, drugs should be illegal, and the government should do daily inspections of your home to make sure that you are "doing the right thing". People will abuse anything, I feel protected because of my training.
Any ass hat can pick up a gun and think they have all the answers right there. I think if anyone wants to own or carry a weapon they need to invest in training. I will set a standard with this.......
People who own weapons yet do not invest in training are a liability to themselves, and the public at large, not an asset. I think all firearm owners should be well trained in safety and self defense from hand to hand all the way up to the modern assault rifle, as they should be competent enough to deploy the right tool for the job.
For example, I carry a flashlight, to help identify people in low light settings. It is a Surefire C3, and it will seer your retinas if you are on the receiving end. Just one of the many tools you need for self defense that are just as important as the gun.
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Re: GUNS cocked locked and read to rock [Re: USMCamputee]
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With that mindset cars should be illegal, alcohol should be illegal, drugs should be illegal, and the government should do daily inspections of your home to make sure that you are "doing the right thing". People will abuse anything, I feel protected because of my training.
No, I would disagree and say those examples aren't relevent. A gun is a tool directly used to kill or seriously injure someone. That is its purpose. Cars, alcohol, and drugs are not intended to kill or seriously injure people. They're for making life easier and more pleasurable or for whatever other reason you choose to use drugs.
If guns were outlawed and no one had them, then there would be no reason to make these killing machines. But I recognize that's an extreme and idealist position. There are guns in this world. And perhaps having a gun in your house locked up, out of the reach of kids isn't really that bad, as they could mean the difference between life and death.
But carrying a loaded gun around with you...THAT I think is unnecessary, unless you're James Bond or have some seriously fucked up enemies (in which case I would have to say you may want to consider re-evaluating your life), or live in a war zone. You don't sound like you live in a warzone though.
It sounds like you just want a little reassurance. But I don't think carrying a tool that can bring death to anyone around with you is the best way to go about getting that reassurance. If you get robbed...well alright, then you get robbed. It's not the end of the world. I'm sure you don't carry your bank around with you, so it's just a minor inconvenience. Besides, if someone's desperate enough to rob people for money, then they probably are really needy themselves.
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Re: GUNS cocked locked and read to rock [Re: Fractalated]
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If someone is going to own a gun, they need to own a safe. I have a safe, and it set me back about 2,500 bucks. It weighs about 800lbs empty, and if I don't have it on my person it is in this safe, and this safe is locked 24/7. It is a part of being a responsible law abiding gun owner.
Criminals will always have guns, that is something that can not be disputed. If there was a gun ban, only the law abiding citizens would turn them in, and the criminals would keep them.
Look at countries where guns are heavily restricted, crime is always a huge problem. Crime very rarely happens here (where I live), because people can legally carry guns. The last thing that happened here was a few months ago, some guy kidnapped some 10 year old girl, cut her head off and did some other fucked up shit to her body. He had written plans out about how he was going to eat her.
Yes this really happened. People really do shit like this. What is fucked up is people like this are out there. I WOULD NEVER HARM MY FELLOW MAN. I DO NOT BELIEVE IN VIOLENCE. I DO, HOWEVER, BELIEVE IN SELF DEFENSE AND STOPPING CRIMINALS.....and trust me, I have no problem with taking a CRIMINAL'S life, my Taco Bell will taste just as good the day after I off some criminal who could potentially be harmful to innocent people. The guy who robs you today could be the man who rapes and murders your wife or child tomorrow. Sorry, but they are getting 2 COM 1 CNS.
I am glad I live in a place where people understand a humans right to self defense. If someone needs to rob someone I think they need to reappraise their situation and find a damned job.
Carrying a loaded gun is completely nescessary in todays crazy world.
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Re: GUNS cocked locked and read to rock [Re: USMCamputee]
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Re: GUNS cocked locked and read to rock [Re: USMCamputee]
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I WOULD NEVER HARM MY FELLOW MAN. I DO NOT BELIEVE IN VIOLENCE.
I'm glad to hear that. Unfortunately, not everyone else follows that belief and moral code. There are people who, given the opportunity WILL harm their fellow man. There are people who DO believe in violence. Given more open gun laws, these people will have more access to guns. Do you want this sort of person to have easier access to guns?
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Re: GUNS cocked locked and read to rock [Re: Fractalated]
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I guess it comes with the territory brother. Which sucks, but it is what it is.
In all seriousness most criminals steal their guns. There is, of course, the "straw purchase". The straw purchase takes place when John gives Tom money so Tom can buy John a gun. If someone gets caught up, Tom and John BOTH get a mandatory minimum of 10 years if the feds pick up the case(s).
If you walk into a gun store to buy a gun, you have to fill out a yellow or white sheet. They call the FBI's NICS hotline and get and instant background check on you. To legally carry it, you have to go through even more crap. You have to take class(es), get your prints taken, pay fees, get some form of certifications for safety and/or self defense, get your county sheriff to approve it and/or get the state police to approve it. All of this and possibly more, depending on your locale.
It would be nice to live in utopia. I would love to trade my guns for that. But that shit ain't the truth. If everybody could just show love and respect to all mankind, pass the grass and no trying to kick ass, I would be content. I do not believe violence is the answer, but when it is you or them, the choice is simple. I wish to harm no human, but, I can live with killing just the same.
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Re: GUNS cocked locked and read to rock [Re: USMCamputee]
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Damn brother, I gotta get some rest........
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Re: GUNS cocked locked and read to rock [Re: 888]
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yeah im an ignorant observer from another country, but i'd say that the lax gunlaws in the states when compared to gun deaths/population of the country. There is an easy observation and conclusion to be made yeayh. Now I'm basing this off an old Pennywise video (Homesickness) stating gun death statistics of different countries. I think my home australia was among the lowest but we have sfa population i guess, and more importantly much tighter gun laws yeah.
Now from one perspective yeah I reckon we're fucked by the corporation controlled government yeah and feel a need to take the power back so to speak but violent revolutions are shaky at best and a more i guess (this sounds incredibly hippy-ish) a more loving apporach should be taken perhaps. I mean we're only controlled as much as we choose to be, and giving into fear and violence perpetuates the hate i guess...
But back to your point of protection. SUre enough in your country I may feel the same way, i mean if every punk kid has a gun i'd feel unsafe too. ANd that IS the problem. I mean the idea that an armed society is a safer society is bullshit. If all that owned a gun were responsible adults with control over emotions and whatnot, well sure cool. But people are not.
I guess one could argue that countries dont fuck each other up with nuclear weapons because they know they'll have a retallitory attack and no1 wins. - we all just die yeah. SO I guess countries run by supposedly responsible elected officials are above this peddy 'war' shit.. well that is we dont fuck with ppl that can fuck us up too, if you're weak and powerless we're still happy to fuck you up, that's whhat i mean. err.. afghanistan, iraq --> iran etc.. any1 attacked nth korea yet? no? huh? why? any chance they may Possibly have ACTUAL wepaons, that are a REAL threat? I dunno, but im sure as fuck Irawq didn't.
...but i digress. Individuals are weak emotional beings that are prone to kill... our animal nature. Sure enough our human[e] nature transcends this bullshit. But fear and hate and all that shit tied to all our subconscious efforts to stay alive must be addressed and overcome.
people are stupid and violent. GOvernments are smart and fantastic (hehe) but even then we can have a Dr. Strangelove scenario, conclusion, an armed society is not at all safer. I mean.. hmm I guess it comes down to the mentality we have.. i mean if we werent so fucked up and fearful we wouldnt even create guns, but we are - and we do, and there's only one thing to do with guns, outcome predictable. hmm I mean the GUn is not the issue, we are... having said that... goddammit fundamentally i disagree with any limitations of freedoms, so fuck yeah have guns, at the same time i believe that the majority of all populations are dumb fucks and prone to kill each other, no guns means no opportunity... again it comes down to the mentality of the peoiple, legality would change little probably as people who 'need' guns will still get guns.
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Re: GUNS cocked locked and read to rock [Re: 888]
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How does everyone feel about guns?
i like them. they are fun to shoot at targets, they provide a humane and enjoyable way to obtain meat, and at times, they allow people to defend themselves. most "gun control" efforts do more harm than good. like recreational drugs, those who actually use guns are more familiar with the facts surrounding them than the naive and misinformed prohibitionists.
guns are good. everyone go buy one.
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Re: GUNS cocked locked and read to rock [Re: soulcircus]
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USMCamputee said: Blinded by rage? Only the weak feel anger and rage. The strong have no emotion at all on the matter. It is simply a natural thing.

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soulcircus said: its just, the fact they are so available and correct me if im wrong arn't their some ridiculously inappopriatly powerful guns available also, whats the need for those?
Why does that interest you? People use them for hunting, protection, fun, whatever. Their does not have to be a need to justify their existence. Think of it like this: What is the need for drugs as powerful as LSD or heroin. What is the need for money? What is the need for people with HIV, or retards? There's no need for anything in life. There is no need for life, it's just the way it is.
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soulcircus said: also it just means everyone has to get one to feel protected,
Not hardly. I know plenty of people that don't carry although it's legal and many do.
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soulcircus said: then it becomes ingrained in new generations as the right thing to do. and it becomes accepted that people will use these to kill, thats horrible.
It's not horrible, it's realistic. People will be killed no matter what society does to try to stop it. Guns are a tool and nothing more.
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soulcircus said: but from a complete lack of political knowledge standpoint
Don't take this the wrong way, but there is your problem. You are spouting off well admitidely uniformed. Why do you feel it appropriate to hold such outlandish positions(such as what follows) when you know not of which you speak? Seriously, sit back and think about that for a bit.
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soulcircus said: id say all guns other than the hunting guns should just be made illegal and swept up, and the only legal purpose for guns should be for sporting, however i don't agree with sporting purposes.
That's a shame. What do you consider a hunting gun?
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Re: GUNS cocked locked and read to rock [Re: Fractalated]
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Fractalated said: No, I would disagree and say those examples aren't relevent. A gun is a tool directly used to kill or seriously injure someone.
Only when a person picks it up and uses it that way. I can get in a car and run down the sidewalk killing several perople just as easy as I could kill with a firearm.
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Fractalated said: That is its purpose. Cars, alcohol, and drugs are not intended to kill or seriously injure people. They're for making life easier and more pleasurable or for whatever other reason you choose to use drugs.
Guns make my life far more pleasurable than any of the aformentioned items.
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Fractalated said: If guns were outlawed and no one had them, then there would be no reason to make these killing machines.
Why do you wish to take away a sport so many people enjoy? Who are you to cast judgement on those you do not know because of how they choose to spend their money and time?
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Fractalated said: But carrying a loaded gun around with you...THAT I think is unnecessary, unless you're James Bond or have some seriously fucked up enemies (in which case I would have to say you may want to consider re-evaluating your life), or live in a war zone. You don't sound like you live in a warzone though.
The police carry them. They're not James Bond, they don't have seriously fucked up enemies. They carry them becuase in a matter of life and death, having a gun is a great advantage. To me it seems like you think people that carry guns are cowboys. Perhaps that is true for the criminals, but law-abiding citizens go through training, background checks and to a lesser extent, mental evaluations. We are indeed the safest people to be around for the most part.
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Fractalated said: It sounds like you just want a little reassurance. But I don't think carrying a tool that can bring death to anyone around with you is the best way to go about getting that reassurance. If you get robbed...well alright, then you get robbed.
Let me give you two examples of what has happened in around me in the last week. A girl I know was walking home with a friend when a man approached with a knife and demanded money, phones, etc. After complying, the man stabbed the girl and ran off. Another man was at a bus stop. A car pulls up, two men get out, beat him and throw him in the trunk. He ends up beaten and left for dead in a warehouse...FOR NO REASON!
The mindset of "that won't happen to me" is foolish. You don't have to live in the ghetto, or in a warzone to have bad situations arise.
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Or they were brought up understanding that it's easier to take other people's property. Especially since most walk around unprotected.
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Re: GUNS cocked locked and read to rock [Re: 888]
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888 said: How does everyone feel about guns?
Love em. Shoot all the time, and carry every day.
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Re: GUNS cocked locked and read to rock [Re: soulcircus]
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Why don't we just kill off the people who commit violent crimes instead of keeping them in some shithouse for a few months and then releasing them back into the public?
It isn't hard to NOT mug somebody. Do we really need scummy types to reproduce? I think not.
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NamelessRevolt said: Why don't we just kill off the people who commit violent crimes instead of keeping them in some shithouse for a few months and then releasing them back into the public?
It isn't hard to NOT mug somebody. Do we really need scummy types to reproduce? I think not.
Good call, now let's get everyone else in America to agree. These child molesters get off easy, one guy got out of a prison sentence here because the judge believed he was too old and fragile for prison. HE FUCKING MOLESTED CHILDREN FOR FUCKS SAKE!!! Meanwhile non violent drug offenders are getting long term bits, and coming out worse than when they were before being sent up.
Kill those who victimize innocent people? I wouldn't loose sleep over it. I would throw the lever, sinch the noose, or open the gas valve, and I wouldn't think twice, I would, however, go to Taco Bell and get one of those cheesy bean and rice burritos A.S.A.P. Oh, and a Chalupa with naco cheese..... with a Mountain Dew....yeah.....
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Re: GUNS cocked locked and read to rock [Re: 888]
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I'm not really aware of the situation in the US so I can't really have an accurate opinion.
A lot has to do with each different coulture and society.
In Cyprus for example, the majority of families have a G3 riffle or G3 machine gun in their houses since most men are part of the reserves, yet they never resort to using it as there's really no gun crime affecting them. Criminals kill each other, they don't really bother people in their every day lives.
Obviously, there's no ghetto or all the social struggle that exists in the US that lead to all this phenomenon.
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Re: GUNS cocked locked and read to rock [Re: trunksan]
#5981855 - 08/20/06 04:33 PM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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I wish I had an arsenal of guns, but I think it wouldn't be good if everybody was packing, instead of having brawls we'd start having gun fights, and instead of bumps and bruises we would have fatalities, which might not be bad for population control, but for crime, I doubt it would be the whole polite society thing, I think everyone would feel the power rush and start doing more jacks and heists
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Re: GUNS cocked locked and read to rock [Re: capliberty]
#5981880 - 08/20/06 04:42 PM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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G3? Nice. Where do you live? I will assume somewhere in Europe.....
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Re: GUNS cocked locked and read to rock [Re: USMCamputee]
#5981886 - 08/20/06 04:43 PM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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I would love to try out a G36 or some other HK rifle, but they are so expensive, parts and mags are hard to find and also expensive. The AR has really become a cheap gun, with piston driven uppers hitting the market, and the sunset of the AWB, conventional direct impingement AR15s are cheap as ever, and so are the parts and mags.
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Re: GUNS cocked locked and read to rock [Re: 888]
#5981891 - 08/20/06 04:46 PM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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You got a lot of freaking personal problems...you shouldn't have a gun.
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Re: GUNS cocked locked and read to rock [Re: Huehuecoyotl]
#5981975 - 08/20/06 05:25 PM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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Huehuecoyotl said: You got a lot of freaking personal problems...you shouldn't have a gun.
This coming from someone else posting on a psychedelics/mind altering substance using forum. The same could be said by the antis about who people should not be able to use mind altering intoxicants.
Truth is it is all about control. The gubmint wants to control everything about every one of you. what you put in your bodies, what you can and can not own, it starts there, give it a few more decades. The man will be telling you where to live, eat, work, what you can and can not see on tv, what you can and can not listen to, where you can and can not go. Gun control worked great for the Nazis, it has also worked well in the U.K. London is one of the most dangerous places in the world, but in a place where the cops can't even carry a weapon, are you supprised?
Criminals can get their guns from other countries, through illegal importation. They also steal them from law abiding citizens. Gun control does not work, this is simply a fact. I do believe and armed society is a polite society. Places where weapons are tabboo, criminals feel empowered when they acquire weapons, because they no their chances of encountering an armed person are practically non-existant. There fore they indulge in their criminal career feeling almost invincible. Now, we look at a place like Arizona, USA. In Arizona things are changing. With over 400 unsolved murders a year, they have recently passed landmark registration. Anyone can carry a gun at any time without a permit. It can not be concealed without a permit, but you can openly carry a weapon. It is too early to tell but I believe these senseless murders are going to fall off, and crime will decline. The state police in AZ believe these are mainly commited by illegal immigrants.
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Re: GUNS cocked locked and read to rock [Re: USMCamputee]
#5982044 - 08/20/06 06:00 PM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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I used to carry a machine gun for a living, so I understand what it means....it was a job requirement. I am grateful for having had the opportunity to serve my country. One who has a gun in his hand should not have hate in his heart. The original poster is expressing hate and a desire to kill. Taking life is is a serious matter and should be avoided at every cost if possible. Yes I am posting on a drug site, and I am a bigger psychedelic drug freak than you are ever liable to meet with around 800 trips to my credit...it is testament to being a free thinking person in my book. Long live the acid freaks!!! Love your fellow humans!
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Edited by Huehuecoyotl (08/20/06 06:08 PM)
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Re: GUNS cocked locked and read to rock [Re: Huehuecoyotl]
#5982064 - 08/20/06 06:09 PM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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its all gravy until you get bush wacked by those in the third world countries where everything goes and the norm is having a hired armed guard at your door
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Re: GUNS cocked locked and read to rock [Re: USMCamputee]
#5986815 - 08/22/06 02:21 PM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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USMCamputee said: G3? Nice. Where do you live? I will assume somewhere in Europe.....
I come from Cyprus (that's in Europe).
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Re: GUNS cocked locked and read to rock [Re: trunksan]
#5988836 - 08/23/06 07:03 AM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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This is probably getting a bit off topic but anyway, i live in England and i'm planning on visiting New York sometime in the future for a holiday, and was wondering if anyone could tell me if there would be any way i could perhaps visit a gun club for the day and try out some different weapons? Since i'll never have the chance to do so over here (guns being illegal and all) does anyone know if this would be possible? Or would i need to be a citizen with a license to even get my hands on a firearm?
Also, just thought i'd mention that i've lived in England all my life and have only heard one single story of anyone being shot in my area, years ago when some ex SAS nutter machine gunned his girlfriend. People over here (generally) do not worry about being attacked with guns while inside or outside their homes... maybe in the big cities it's a problem, but that's only in the real shitbag areas where you'd only go if you were trying to buy crack or some shit. And still, you're more likely to be faced with a knife than a gun... just bringing that up as a point of interest anyway.
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Re: GUNS cocked locked and read to rock [Re: capliberty]
#5988899 - 08/23/06 08:40 AM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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capliberty said: but I think it wouldn't be good if everybody was packing, instead of having brawls we'd start having gun fights, and instead of bumps and bruises we would have fatalities
I would have to think that people would be hesitant to start shooting other people, as people do not want to die. Criminals who do shoot others and everything usually do not expect their victims to be packing heat. I doubt most criminals would commit a crime if they fully accepted the fact that they would get arrested for doing so right as they completed the crime - being a criminal is usually a game of trying to beat the odds, to beat the system.
Well, if everyone was packing, the odds wouldn't be so much in one's favor. There are always going to be your drunk morons who will fuck shit up, but yet, for the most part, I don't foresee more crime from having more individuals complete training and evaluation in order to carry guns on their person.
I recently read about Belgium, or some country, in which they are having problems with public transportation, young Muslims beating the shit out of people, acting all fucking stupid, etc. etc., pulling knives and everything. Apparently no weapon can be carried, and people have died when standing up to them.
You know what? Fuck that. Pull out a fucking gun, and if that is not enough to deter them from acting all tough without threat of consequences for their actions, put a fucking bullet in them. Life is far too short to put up with unreasonable threats on one's life, and if, for whatever fucked up reason, some fucking moron wants to impose those threats on your life, then it is them that should have an even shorter life, and it should be you that is pulling the fucking trigger.
I think the fact that we have the freedom to live our life implies the right to take life. I am, in no way, stating or implying that we should take life, but simply that everyone is capable of taking life if they commited themselves to doing so, regardless of methods or tools available, and the fact that we life necessitates that we should protect our life. Thus, if someone directly threatens our life, we need to protect ourselves, which, unfortunately, means that we may have to take life.
My individual circumstance is such that I do not feel the need to carry a gun with me, but I sometimes consider whether or not I should have one in the house. It is our right as citizens of the United States, and it is entirely unreasonable for anyone to suggest that this right is to be taken away - any group who does suggest it has a crooked agenda.
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Re: GUNS cocked locked and read to rock [Re: Dfekt]
#5989888 - 08/23/06 04:01 PM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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I don't know about New York, but here in Cleveland there's a few places you could go that rent firearms. Two people I know were over recently and they went shooting with no problems.
Tell me what part of New York you'll be in and I'll see if I can find out any specifics for you.
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Re: GUNS cocked locked and read to rock [Re: daimyo]
#5992531 - 08/24/06 12:21 PM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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I'm not completely sure to be honest mate, haven't really looked into it but i'm hoping to go somewhere not too far away from the Chapel of Sacred Mirrors
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