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RatherBeAlone13
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Aug. 22, 2006 Picture Update (NEED SOME ADVICE) *DELETED*
#5971671 - 08/16/06 11:48 PM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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MacBluntski
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Re: (PICS) Is this cobweb or overlay? or is this normal?? [Re: RatherBeAlone13]
#5971685 - 08/16/06 11:50 PM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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you beat us to it..."cobweb (it does dissappear when I hit it with H202)" see if you can get it all to dissappear...
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Re: (PICS) Is this cobweb or overlay? or is this normal?? [Re: MacBluntski]
#5971692 - 08/16/06 11:52 PM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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It looks like mycelium to me..
But lets see what the experts have to say
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RatherBeAlone13
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Re: (PICS) Is this cobweb or overlay? or is this normal?? [Re: MacBluntski]
#5971693 - 08/16/06 11:53 PM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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or wait...
it doesnt disappear..
it just shrinks some.
actually i dont know about this.... but my last try (a different cake) had something similar that did shrink when i hit it with h202.
Havent tried hitting this yet. (at least not with straight (3%)H202)
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Re: (PICS) Is this cobweb or overlay? or is this normal?? [Re: RatherBeAlone13]
#5971702 - 08/16/06 11:57 PM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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I can't tell for sure from your pic but it looks like mycelium... cobweb will turn black I think.. As long as it stays white your good. In time you'll have no question as to whats what.
I take it this is the first time you've fruited a jar? The first time I ever did.... I was paranoid... the blueing reaction..... the black from spores falling.... everything was under question...
It just takes experience.
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Re: (PICS) Is this cobweb or overlay? or is this normal?? [Re: RatherBeAlone13]
#5971706 - 08/16/06 11:58 PM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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look at the second pic, the verm thats just sticking to the wall. spray that with h2o2 diluted with 10 parts water and then post a pic...
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RatherBeAlone13
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Re: (PICS) Is this cobweb or overlay? or is this normal?? [Re: MacBluntski]
#5971716 - 08/17/06 12:06 AM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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Quote:
MacBluntski said: look at the second pic, the verm thats just sticking to the wall. spray that with h2o2 diluted with 10 parts water and then post a pic...
OK. Give me a few minutes...
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Re: (PICS) Is this cobweb or overlay? or is this normal?? [Re: RatherBeAlone13]
#5971743 - 08/17/06 12:19 AM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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looks like mycelium to mi.
i'd bet my friend's horse on it.
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RatherBeAlone13
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Re: (PICS) Is this cobweb or overlay? or is this normal?? [Re: Omnicracker]
#5971752 - 08/17/06 12:21 AM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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I hit it and it dissapeared...
So now what??
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RatherBeAlone13
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Re: (PICS) Is this cobweb or overlay? or is this normal?? [Re: RatherBeAlone13]
#5971785 - 08/17/06 12:36 AM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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um.... help?
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Re: (PICS) Is this cobweb or overlay? or is this normal?? [Re: RatherBeAlone13]
#5971837 - 08/17/06 01:09 AM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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are you growing a pan? when i grew Pan Jamaican, a cobweb-like mecy covered the jar in about a week/2weeks followed by a slower growing stronger white Mecy.
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RatherBeAlone13
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Re: (PICS) Is this cobweb or overlay? or is this normal?? [Re: Ogla]
#5971960 - 08/17/06 02:18 AM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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umm... i think its b+
its been a long while since i bought tha stuff so i dont remember what it is exactly...
but anyway... update.. I sprayed both my casing and cake with some h202 and h20 mix, .. my casing seemed to disappear some (tha white stuff), but tha cake didnt. So I guess what was on tha cake wasnt cobweb after all (thank God).
But i could def. see tha casing shrink a little, tha cobweb stuff anyway. Ohh man, they better pin soon. Its been at least a week. If not, im gonna go crazy and be spraying mad h202 all over them all tha time. Which im sure cant be a good thing for tha myclemim. (haha, i cant spell..) but yeah,...
We shall see.
Keep this thread going, and I shall keep you all updated with my grow.
(if this thread dies like tha rest of mine do, i will assume no one cares, and i will do this alone.)
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Re: (PICS) Is this cobweb or overlay? or is this normal?? [Re: RatherBeAlone13]
#5972066 - 08/17/06 03:48 AM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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Re: (PICS) Is this cobweb or overlay? or is this normal?? [Re: onicko721]
#5972150 - 08/17/06 05:58 AM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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i had the same problem and when i sprayed mine with h2o2 it staled the casing from fruiting for a week or 2 longer than normal.
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Re: (PICS) Is this cobweb or overlay? or is this normal?? [Re: royer]
#5972320 - 08/17/06 08:44 AM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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That's healthy mycelium. Quit beating it up with peroxide. Cobweb is airy and looks very much like an old spider web, only thicker. Your mycelium is slightly rhizomorphic and white, while cobweb never is rhizomorphic, and is grey in color.
Your first picture above shows distinct 'fans' of mycelium at the top of the image. That proves it's healthy mushroom mycelium. Peroxide will always shrink healthy mycelium because it's catastrophic on the cellular level to fungi. RR
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Re: (PICS) Is this cobweb or overlay? or is this normal?? [Re: RatherBeAlone13]
#5972493 - 08/17/06 10:53 AM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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it's healthy mycelium...
so leave it alone!~
picture of cobweb mold for your viewing pleasure...
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Re: (PICS) Is this cobweb or overlay? or is this normal?? [Re: Roadkill]
#5972518 - 08/17/06 11:05 AM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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eww
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Re: (PICS) Is this cobweb or overlay? or is this normal?? [Re: RogerRabbit]
#5973231 - 08/17/06 03:25 PM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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yep ... dont use straight h202.. the oxygen burns things, 3% is too strong to use straight.
Just poor a little in your water you use to mist.
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Re: (PICS) Is this cobweb or overlay? or is this normal?? [Re: RogerRabbit]
#5974986 - 08/18/06 01:18 AM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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Quote:
RogerRabbit said: That's healthy mycelium. Quit beating it up with peroxide. Cobweb is airy and looks very much like an old spider web, only thicker. Your mycelium is slightly rhizomorphic and white, while cobweb never is rhizomorphic, and is grey in color.
Your first picture above shows distinct 'fans' of mycelium at the top of the image. That proves it's healthy mushroom mycelium. Peroxide will always shrink healthy mycelium because it's catastrophic on the cellular level to fungi. RR
Ahh!! Thank you !! that may have saved my grow!
And thank you all !!........
Update... Nothing has changed... except I will take it easy on tha h202. Maybe in tha next few day I will see a pin. (i hope).
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Re: (PICS) Is this cobweb or overlay? or is this normal?? [Re: RatherBeAlone13]
#5975189 - 08/18/06 05:07 AM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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(Bear with me...it is 7AM) -ghost
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Re: (PICS) Is this cobweb or overlay? or is this normal?? [Re: ghostofbmarley]
#5975198 - 08/18/06 05:14 AM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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Lmfao
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Re: (PICS) Is this cobweb or overlay? or is this normal?? [Re: ghostofbmarley]
#5975268 - 08/18/06 06:41 AM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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ghostofbmarley said:

(Bear with me...it is 7AM) -ghost
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Re: (PICS) Is this cobweb or overlay? or is this normal?? [Re: hyphae]
#5981562 - 08/20/06 02:19 PM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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Update .... I See PINS !!!!!!!!!!!!
FINALLY !!! I am so happy, never thought it was gonna happen!! Theyre on my cake, no tha casing tho.. Which is fine since I birthed tha cake about a week earlier than tha casing.
Theres is probably about 10 pins or so... hopefully many more to come..
Will upload pics tonight..
How long to these are full grown do ya think?
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Re: (PICS) Is this cobweb or overlay? or is this normal?? [Re: RatherBeAlone13]
#5981566 - 08/20/06 02:20 PM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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Thanks to all for your help
wouldnt have gotten this far without tha Shroomery.
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Re: (PICS) Is this cobweb or overlay? or is this normal?? [Re: RatherBeAlone13]
#5981568 - 08/20/06 02:21 PM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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RatherBeAlone13
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Update ... Aug. 22, 2006 [Re: MacBluntski]
#5985431 - 08/21/06 11:55 PM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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update aug. 22, 06
my pins are getting bigger...
I am hoping they will be full sized, or at least close to it by Friday (4 more days..)
Think its possible? or is this just wishful thinking . (this is my first grow, so I dont know how close I am).
There is one that is looking kinda big now.. he was my first pin. Near tha bottom.



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RatherBeAlone13
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Any advice?
What is that white stuff that is reaching all over... (you can see it good in tha last pic). Just mycelium??? I guess so, since its not affecting tha schrooms.
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Re: (PICS) Is this cobweb or overlay? or is this normal?? [Re: RatherBeAlone13]
#5985471 - 08/22/06 12:08 AM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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That's normal growth. Notice how it is stretching out trying to find something new to grow on. Cobweb would just hang on top. By now you probably know this already.
Edited by rikjoh (08/22/06 12:13 AM)
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RatherBeAlone13
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Re: (PICS) Is this cobweb or overlay? or is this normal?? [Re: rikjoh]
#5985483 - 08/22/06 12:11 AM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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How much longer do you's think? Im so excited for them it's crazy.. haha. I cant stop myself from checkin on them and seeing if there's any growth changes.
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Re: (PICS) Is this cobweb or overlay? or is this normal?? [Re: RatherBeAlone13]
#5985505 - 08/22/06 12:16 AM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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They look great. Maybe 2-5 days if conditions are right.
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Re: (PICS) Is this cobweb or overlay? or is this normal?? [Re: rikjoh]
#5985685 - 08/22/06 01:33 AM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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this is where you will see mad growth yea i would say 2-3 more days and they should be gravy..congrats on the grow man I will post pics of my grow within 2 weeks so keep an eye out i think you will like it mwahaha heh heh..
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Re: (PICS) Is this cobweb or overlay? or is this normal?? [Re: xaxphaanes]
#5985701 - 08/22/06 01:47 AM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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Ill be lookin for it.
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RatherBeAlone13
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Re: (PICS) Is this cobweb or overlay? or is this normal?? [Re: RatherBeAlone13]
#5987489 - 08/22/06 06:46 PM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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OK, i need some advice/help now...
I heard that when tha mushroom's veil (or viel) breaks, its time to pick them? Is that true? Cuz a few of mine broke today, but tha mushrooms are only a few inches long...
(pics comming in a few min.,.)
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Re: (PICS) Is this cobweb or overlay? or is this normal?? [Re: RatherBeAlone13]
#5987518 - 08/22/06 06:57 PM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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Here's some pics...

I can only upload one until later tonight
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Re: (PICS) Is this cobweb or overlay? or is this normal?? [Re: RatherBeAlone13]
#5987521 - 08/22/06 06:58 PM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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you dont have to pick them as soon as the veil breaks...people like to, that way the spores dont get all over the casing/cakes...you can wait a few more days to let them grow a little more...but you will get purple sludge...
ok now i've seen the pic...i would let them grow more...you want to be abke to get enough to get some efects from them
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RatherBeAlone13
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Re: (PICS) Is this cobweb or overlay? or is this normal?? [Re: imtank]
#5987523 - 08/22/06 06:59 PM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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Ok, maybe I will wait another 24 hours or so then and see what happens. I heard that tha first flush is usually smaller mushrooms anyway, so thats prolly why.
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