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Re: question regarding Israel's supposed "targeted" bombings [Re: RosettaStoned]
#5954932 - 08/11/06 08:26 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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It's a fact that Islamists are trying to re establish the Islamic Caliphate that the West toppled.
You have slyly sidestepped zappa style anti-arab ramblings in favor of a more factual statement that you can stand behind. But your statement still doesn't give zappa's a leg to stand on.
Lets have a look at this nonsense again shall we?
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The Muslims are not just after Israel, babies. They want you, too. Or have you not been listening? And it doesn't have a fucking thing to do with the Joooooooooooooos.
He implies that they want me, you, my neighbor, my dog and my family...oh my. He is implying that they want all of us under an islamic empire...the entire world no less. And that it has nothing to do with the jews (joooooooooos!) coming into their lands in the 60s and killing many of them and kicking them out like they were stray dogs to be kicked. Like they are just suppose to lie down and accept their fate because they lost a war that they did absolutely nothing to bring down upon themselves.
The japanese accepted their fate, they knew their own actions brought it about. As did germany. But this is a whole different situation, this is more like the native americans being pushed farther and farther west. They didn't have a choice nor a leg to stand on to fight back. Sure they could kill some people here and there, but they would never gain any ground. Just like the arabs now, they can kill they enemy, but they never stood a chance from the very beginning. There is a word for that: humiliation. The tactics the arabs use to fight back are a response to being completely humiliated. They were unprepared and unequipped to fight the war thus in response to that their tactics have evolved to make up for it.
In the revolutionary war the british thought the americans were downright despicable dirty cowards for not playing by the accepted war rules of the age. Imagine what the aristocracy in england thought of the colonists tactics? They thought as much of them as the average american thinks of a suicide bomber. Well from my point of view, we are on no more moral high-ground over them than the british were over the colonists in the revolutionary war.
Do people honestly believe for a minute that the arab fighters prefer these tactics? Does anyone think, given the chance they wouldn't prefer air superiority and rows and rows of tanks? They are faced with 2 options. 1) fight back anyway they can or 2) accept humiliation for their complete inability to hold their lands in the face of invasion and occupation due to no action of their own. One could argue the cause of the current conflicts but the arabs did nothing to bring it on in the first place. Obviously, the invasion in the very beginning was the cause for this and any peace in between was nothing more than a cease-fire. It is basically a 40+ year long war.
Don't misunderstand me though, I hold no love for their culture nor their religion. But I think we here in the west have totally lost perspective of this thing due to the bias of the media representation. I don't think the jews control the media either. Just because a jew works for a company or even RUNS a company doesn't mean he is a IDF agent. But I do think christian beliefs are responsible for the media bias. Naive christians (the majority religion in america) believe some misguided idea that the jews are somehow "chosen", making their lives worth more. And by proxy, even christian lives worth more than non-judea originating religions.
Back to the original statement though, that the arabs are trying to recreate long lost empires. Who doesn't have visions of grandeur? Of course they'd like to unite the arab population under one banner in the middle-east. But I'd also like to see the drug laws repealed in my country, doesn't mean it's going to happen now does it? I have visions of a world where there is no profit in war nor reason to fight. Doesn't mean it's going to happen does it?
It is not, nor ever will be possible for an arab empire to unite and control the world. Nor will I believe these nutjob theories that that is their end goal. There IS an empire going on right now and it sure as hell isn't arab. People like you and zappa are so busy being scared of a non-existent arab empirical threat when you have an empirical power controlling most of the worlds resources right in front of your very eyes.
I'd worry far more about the power of the current empire than some arab pipe dream if I were you.
Ok, you are pretty much anti USA. I want USA to control the whole world. I don't want Arabs and Muslims controlling shit. I want USA and its closest allies controlling everything.
Oh by the way, there will always be war and people will always profit from it. Wait, people have always profited from it.
So basically the Muslims want everyone to be Muslim and they want to establish a new caliphate. The sooner you people will realize that peace is not an option the sooner we can crush them. If Hitler and his faggots were slaughtered before they did anything then WWII would never had happened.
So the point here is... kill them now, subdue them now, conquer them now before they can conquer us.
alpharedecho : there will be no nuclear winter. Israel has also starting to make small yield nukes just like USA. They are made to specifically to destroy small areas with less fallout. If it comes to it then they will use them and still kick the everloving shit out of the Muslims.
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Re: question regarding Israel's supposed "targeted" bombings [Re: downforpot]
#5962915 - 08/14/06 02:16 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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So the point here is... kill them now, subdue them now, conquer them now before they can conquer us.
Yes, mien furor!
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Re: question regarding Israel's supposed "targeted" bombings [Re: RosettaStoned]
#5962926 - 08/14/06 02:21 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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lol the ironing is delicious.
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Re: question regarding Israel's supposed "targeted" bombings [Re: RosettaStoned]
#5963305 - 08/14/06 04:27 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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So the point here is... kill them now, subdue them now, conquer them now before they can conquer us.
Yes, mien furor!
Huh? wtf is mien furor?
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Re: question regarding Israel's supposed "targeted" bombings [Re: downforpot]
#5963344 - 08/14/06 04:45 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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So the point here is... kill them now, subdue them now, conquer them now before they can conquer us.
Yes, mien furor!
Huh? wtf is mien furor?
A Chinese menu item?
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Re: question regarding Israel's supposed "targeted" bombings [Re: zappaisgod]
#5964870 - 08/15/06 12:17 AM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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Sorry, I don't remember any german from the 6 week course I had like 10 years ago
But that quote is almost right out of hitler's playbook. You can't possibly get any more inhuman than such a statement. Doesn't matter what side you root for, if you advocate mass slaughter then you are on the same level as some of the worst criminals ever to exist.
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Re: question regarding Israel's supposed "targeted" bombings [Re: RosettaStoned]
#5965861 - 08/15/06 11:43 AM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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So Caesar, Alexander, etc. etc. were all inhuman? All the great generals who expanded their empires and brought new technology and innovation to other people were actually inhuman? Cause humans never conquer, right?
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Re: question regarding Israel's supposed "targeted" bombings [Re: downforpot]
#5966436 - 08/15/06 03:11 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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downforpot said: So Caesar, Alexander, etc. etc. were all inhuman? All the great generals who expanded their empires and brought new technology and innovation to other people were actually inhuman? Cause humans never conquer, right?
Trying to tie them into what is happening now is preposterous. There is no great new technology or innovation by conquering the arabs. They just want us out of their damn region and people like you are so beyond reason that you think the 1% fringe arab population that wants to have a arab empire conquer the globe are some kind of actual threat. You just continue to buy into the propaganda bullshit of the US. Focus on some dirt poor arabs while the US continues to expand it's empire and control to the point of no return. Then they will do away with the constituion entirely and we won't be able to do a fucking thing about it because the people like you were so preoccupied with some irrelevant camel jockeys and missed the chance to stop it from happening.
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Re: question regarding Israel's supposed "targeted" bombings [Re: RosettaStoned]
#5968345 - 08/16/06 12:51 AM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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downforpot said: So Caesar, Alexander, etc. etc. were all inhuman? All the great generals who expanded their empires and brought new technology and innovation to other people were actually inhuman? Cause humans never conquer, right?
Trying to tie them into what is happening now is preposterous. There is no great new technology or innovation by conquering the arabs. They just want us out of their damn region and people like you are so beyond reason that you think the 1% fringe arab population that wants to have a arab empire conquer the globe are some kind of actual threat. You just continue to buy into the propaganda bullshit of the US. Focus on some dirt poor arabs while the US continues to expand it's empire and control to the point of no return. Then they will do away with the constituion entirely and we won't be able to do a fucking thing about it because the people like you were so preoccupied with some irrelevant camel jockeys and missed the chance to stop it from happening.
Actually we are trying to modernize the Muslim world... Everyone knows that most Muslims countries are WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY behind the west.
I wonder if there were people like you during Alexander's times, hmmm. Well, prolly not because they would probably be sent to the dungeons for talking bad about him and his campaigns.
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Re: question regarding Israel's supposed "targeted" bombings [Re: downforpot]
#5971100 - 08/16/06 09:05 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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Actually we are trying to modernize the Muslim world... Everyone knows that most Muslims countries are WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY behind the west.
Can you please point to the spot in the constitution of the US where it says that my tax dollars are suppose to go to modernize foreign countries across the world? It ain't our fucking job, you want to fix them so bad take your ass over there and do it without stealing the US treasury. We have our own fucking problems here thanks.
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