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 Tracking Implants - The Next Control 
#597107 - 04/02/02 09:53 PM (23 years, 22 days ago) |
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It seems that the FDA just approved, or is poised to approve, the use of tracking devices for human beings. These have been used in dogs and cats for years as a way of identifying the owner of a stray. A rice-sized electronic device is implanted under the skin and information contained in the device can be retreived with a scanner.
Now the first use of these devices in humans is being sought as a way to help Alzheimer's patients who may get lost or wander. It won't be long before the humanitarian purpose is lost. The people in power are literally salivating over this and will find subtle ways (weeding out terrorism?) to introduce these to the society-at-large (read: sheep).
If that happens my friends, our few remaining liberties will be gone. This may well be the Bible's Revelation or George Orwell's 1984 come to pass.
Stay vigilant!
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Re: Tracking Implants - The Next Control [Re: Swami]
#597150 - 04/02/02 10:40 PM (23 years, 22 days ago) |
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I would like to add that the the newer devices being worked on are smaller and will be
able to be implanted with a hypodermic needle. Couple this news with reports that
the HHS director has also floated the idea of mandatory vaccinations and you've
got very troubling possibilities.
We've got two things to help us combat tyranny, freedom of speech and the right to
keep and bear arms. Bill Bennet and the other neo-facists, err I mean neo-conservatives
are doing their best to combat the first amendment, while all the 'liberal' nanny statists
are doing their best to 'protect' us from the evils of lawfully bearing arms by eviscerating
the second amendment.
But we shouldn't worry, it's all for our own good. We're always told that we live in a
democracy and that's the best form of government because the people always have a
say and we'll always be in control of the government. Just look at how well democracy
worked in the Weimar Republic, it gave the people what they wanted, a democratically
elected socialist who strived to make his country the greatest...
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Re: Tracking Implants - The Next Control [Re: Swami]
#597156 - 04/02/02 10:44 PM (23 years, 22 days ago) |
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You should read the Tripods Trilogy by John Christopher (The White Mountains, the City of Gold and Lead, and the Pool of Fire). Those books describe in horrific fiction the future reality of "tracking" devices in humans. Worse than 1984. Makes you wanna have kids, huh?
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Re: Tracking Implants - The Next Control [Re: Swami]
#597560 - 04/03/02 11:32 AM (23 years, 22 days ago) |
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Something's going to give soon. The dam will break and the weird will rise up and take the throne. All we need is for the authorities in this police state to go just a little too far...
then WHAMMO!!!
The streets will run red with the "blood" of the dogmatists.
Well... if I had it my way.
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Re: Tracking Implants - The Next Control [Re: ]
#597573 - 04/03/02 11:50 AM (23 years, 22 days ago) |
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We've got two things to help us combat tyranny, freedom of speech and the right to keep and bear arms.
True - for now. But we have already lost Religious Freedom (entheogens) and the Freedom from illegal search and seizure. The WOD is eating away at the fabric of the Bill of Rights.
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Re: Tracking Implants - The Next Control [Re: Swami]
#597578 - 04/03/02 11:55 AM (23 years, 22 days ago) |
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Ofcourse, this isn't a surprise to anyone who reads The Holy Bible and neither is it anything to fear for them, because before the new "religion" is forced on the inhabitants of Earth, His [God's] people will be brought up to Him. Vanishings coming soon.
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Re: Tracking Implants - The Next Control [Re: Swami]
#597596 - 04/03/02 12:08 PM (23 years, 22 days ago) |
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"And he causes all, both great and small, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads: And no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark"
Yup, sounds about right. I'm actually worried. Really worried.
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Re: Tracking Implants - The Next Control [Re: CACA]
#597622 - 04/03/02 12:31 PM (23 years, 22 days ago) |
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CACA:
"...because before the new "religion" is forced on the inhabitants of Earth, His [God's] people will be brought up to Him. Vanishings coming soon."
Huh, how's that? Is this in reference to that 'rapture' concept? If so, where in your holy bible does it mention this? Why should I believe this?
The meek shall inherit the earth, just look at the mass graves at Auschwitz.
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Re: Tracking Implants - The Next Control [Re: Swami]
#597643 - 04/03/02 12:55 PM (23 years, 22 days ago) |
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Its part of the Illuminati's plan for the New World Order.. a one world government where all of the citizens can constantly be monitered in a cashless society of credit.
I heard something a few years ago about how they were trying to pass a bill that would require everyone to get similar implants in their hands which.. every time you walk through the door of an official building or wherever they wanted to scan people.. it would scan the microchip in your hand and they would know everything about you.. how much money you had on credit.. who you were.. where you have been.. etc.. It didn't get passed.
Their plan will fail
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Re: Tracking Implants - The Next Control [Re: ]
#597659 - 04/03/02 01:13 PM (23 years, 22 days ago) |
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every new century or end of every century bring the fear of the "end of the world..."
So whats the difference now?
I've heard that a lot of religious text dicuss the next few years as being very important bench marks in existence.... So what do poeple say will happen?
A lot of this stuff came up a while ago in Shroomism posts about Alien contact and the rotation of the planet Nibiru....
Swami I've seen a lot of your dicussions about drug use and I've seen how you can debunk a lot of peoples ideas -- I'm not being bitter I'm just pointing out that you use very good logic when creating your beliefs instead of just jumping on band wagons like a lot of people seem to do......
So where do you stand on religious stories like the End of the world? -- If the question sounds extremly general thats the point---Its for anyone to answer and I'm just looking for peoples thoughts
I know Shroomism is busy these days with his book and all but just like I enjoy to see Swami's two cents I love to hear shroomisms.......
Does anyone really think we would submit to having implants -- Sure the Gov't might start with criminals and move along like that, but don't you think there is a line you just can't cross without a society turing its back on its leaders.... No one wants that kind of control put over them...
I mean how much will people put up with?
If the Gov't starts wanting me to carry around some kind of I.D. card or get some surgical implant for tracking I'm screaming Shinanagins..
No one knows enough about the point of Existence to start placing trackers in everybodies heads......
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Re: Tracking Implants - The Next Control [Re: ]
#597666 - 04/03/02 01:21 PM (23 years, 22 days ago) |
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Their plan will fail.
So far it is succeeding quite well with everything on track.
California just passed a new law that if you are stopped without driver's license or registration, the police can search your car for drugs and weapons.
Everyone that goes through the airport is submitting to an illegal search.
Much of your personal / financial history is readily available to those who know where to look.
A few years back, many marijuana cultivators were busted when the Feds looked through the sales receipts of legitimate hydroponic outlets. More unreasonable search and seizure...
25 years in prison for a few plants or mushrooms? How much more repressive does it need to be to be considered a success?
Freedom of Speech? How many major magazines have done a negative article on the WOD?
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Re: Tracking Implants - The Next Control [Re: SofaJesus]
#597675 - 04/03/02 01:33 PM (23 years, 22 days ago) |
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So where do you stand on religious stories like the End of the world? -- If the question sounds extremly general thats the point---Its for anyone to answer and I'm just looking for peoples thoughts
I threw the Revelation reference in just for fun. The trouble with Bible Prophecy (or any other religious prophecy) is that it doesn't predict anything. Something earth-shaking happens and THEN people try to find a corresponding passage in their scripture of choice.
The End of the World must first be defined. The end of humanity, America, capitalism, a specific race or culture?
Many people though WWI and WWII were end of world scenarios. Of course it was for those who were killed.
Direct answer to your question: No, I do not believe the religious stories. Will mankind continue ad-infinitum? That question cannot be answered. We are steering hard towards self-destruction, yet there are counter forces of good at work - such as The Shroomery! Even if we truely learn to cooperate, an errant asteroid could wipe the petri dish clean.
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 Re: Tracking Implants - The Next Control [Re: Swami]
#597796 - 04/03/02 04:09 PM (23 years, 22 days ago) |
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Swami: If you believe that the government does not have our best interests at heart, and that they really are trying to tighten their control on us, what do you think is the reason behind this? I really would like to hear your view on this. I am trying to figure out why a society would evolve in this way.
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Re: Tracking Implants - The Next Control [Re: Swami]
#598325 - 04/04/02 06:07 AM (23 years, 21 days ago) |
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So far it is succeeding quite well with everything on track.
Perhaps.. but they are a far shot from where they would like to be right now. Yes maybe they do control 85% of the US population through subtle and some not-so subtle means of brainwashing and/or subliminal messaging. Yeah maybe we lost all our rights somewhere along the way and no one even noticed. But more importantly than this is that these are their last ditch efforts to maintain control of their population. I predict that in the next year;
A. It will get worse - The people will rise and strip them of their power
B. It will get worse - They will admit what they are doing to everyone
and/or C. There will be a pole shift and the survivors will be so pissed that their government never told them as they are snug away in their underground mountain cave, the government will lose all power as they will have no means to control the people with. CIA..huh? What's an IRS?
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Re: Tracking Implants - The Next Control [Re: SofaJesus]
#598332 - 04/04/02 06:24 AM (23 years, 21 days ago) |
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Sofa, if you even knew what you were talking about, you wouldn't ask Swami about end-of-the-world speculation- thats not what the united world in worship of humanity is about. The implementation of a system in which every human can have his cake and eat it too MUST happen and WILL happen AND ALOT faster than what you THINK it will happen.
If you don't want to believe the Holy Bible because of your childish American rebellion, ask the Mayans about it. You may even want to ask Uri Geller since alot of Christians don't like him, not including myself.
People of true faith believe these things, live their lives and continue living them before and after Earth-shaking events with faith in God, without so much fear for their souls, doing the most they can to better themselves to care for their brothers and sisters and waiting for the day when Christ returns.
If the impending implants don't help you see, what will? Jesus Himself spoke and said:
"You believe me because you see me, but blessed will be he who believes and has not seen me."
Certainly these implants are something so blatant, yet so many non-believing people would have to be so perfectly jaded that even these very flagrant prophecies would go unnoticed and/or ignored. Seconds have passed after you read this and you are in a new time always, so do something. This kind of event reminds of when environmentalists warn governments and wonder HOW anyone could pull the rug right from under their OWN feet!
WW1 and WW2 were predicted by the Bible. The people who were killed in those wars, if they did believe the world would end, know better now, are merely on the other side waiting for judgement just as we are here, and wishing they could have done something more, because no matter how much a person can do, no man can stand in the face of God without fear.
The question isn't about being fair. The question is about what will happen and what IS happening and what always DID happen. Whether you understand it or not isn't *quite* enough to keep the planets from turning.
There is global outreach to believers and non-believers alike, and many people turn from the word of God.
Remember that there will be a day when you will WISH someone would tell you about God, but no one will be there to tell you about Him.
This isn't the only prospective prophecy fulfillment we have seen, it may just be the latest and very well may be the most obvious. haha
As far as the rapture goes, there are many books and movies telling of that particular event, all tools to help a person understand its undying truth. God says that he will come "..like a thief in the night.." when no one expects Him to come to " ..harvest.. " his people. Do you know that these people will not experience death? hah Those people who are caught up in the rapture will not die a worldly death. It isn't that hard to read the Bible. If you want to know, the best thing for you will be to read it. The Bible can't hurt you, whereas just about everything -if not everything- else can. There are many books containing prophecies, but the one you will want to read is Revelations, as I'm sure almost every American knows.
John 3:36 has a pretty important message itself :
"Whoever believes in the Son has everlasting life: and he that does not believe in the Son will not see life; but the wrath of God is on him."
Yep, its pretty simple.
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Re: Tracking Implants - The Next Control [Re: CACA]
#598352 - 04/04/02 07:14 AM (23 years, 21 days ago) |
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Uri (hey look over there while a bend this spoon with my bare hands) Geller?
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Re: Tracking Implants - The Next Control [Re: Swami]
#598361 - 04/04/02 07:20 AM (23 years, 21 days ago) |
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AKA the man who many governments sought out for help? Yes.
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Re: Tracking Implants - The Next Control [Re: ]
#598363 - 04/04/02 07:21 AM (23 years, 21 days ago) |
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They will admit what they are doing to everyone...
I applaud your youthful naivete. Politicians admitting their sins? Not on your life. The only time they admit is when they are caught stone-cold and even then...
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Re: Tracking Implants - The Next Control [Re: CACA]
#598367 - 04/04/02 07:28 AM (23 years, 21 days ago) |
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Assuming you can back that up, let's do the standard syllogism:
A. Con-men can fool people.
B. The government is made up of people.
C. Con-men can fool the government.
Very simple.
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Re: Tracking Implants - The Next Control [Re: Swami]
#598369 - 04/04/02 07:29 AM (23 years, 21 days ago) |
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Back what up?
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Re: Tracking Implants - The Next Control [Re: Swami]
#598406 - 04/04/02 08:41 AM (23 years, 21 days ago) |
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In the UK every government since the war has tried to introduce compulsory id cards, but the people wont accept it. So what do they try instead? They are suggesting that people will have 'entitlement' cards with your biomedical data on a chip. You wont have to carry one but if you dont, you wont get medical care, state benefits, wont be able to legally drive etc.. They are also suggesting chipping every vehicle so they can introduce road congestion charges, though they admit they will also make the data avaliable to the police etc.. So although it may seem unlikely that governments can force every citizen to be chipped, they will introduce it slowly under legitimate guises. The police here can sample your DNA if you are arrested, but must destroy it if you are found not guilty. However a court just ruled that they can keep it to add to a national database to 'aid crime prevention'. so they can arrest you for something crap like obstructing a police officer, and they got your DNA for life...
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Re: Tracking Implants - The Next Control [Re: Swami]
#598431 - 04/04/02 09:08 AM (23 years, 21 days ago) |
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What you see as youthful naivete I see as applied insight. I say within the next year the Government will either come clean about all of their many, many lies.. or at least most of them. And if that doesn't happen its going to be forced out of them. Just watch, its already happening now, little by little. People are getting used to the fact that their government lies and has lied to them about many things. Its only a matter of time now before they are forced to come clean under increasing public pressure.
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Re: Tracking Implants - The Next Control [Re: Swami]
#598436 - 04/04/02 09:10 AM (23 years, 21 days ago) |
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That being said I think the first major confession is going to go something like this:
President on TV: It has come to my attention that many years ago, certain agencies of the Government purposely lied and mislead the American people about the facts in the Roswell incident....
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Re: Tracking Implants - The Next Control [Re: CACA]
#598475 - 04/04/02 09:57 AM (23 years, 21 days ago) |
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CACA, are you the christian sock puppet of Zahid?
Please state the verse(s) where WW1 and WW2 are predicted in your holy bible.
Please state the verse(s) in your holy bible that refer to the 'rapture.'
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Re: Tracking Implants - The Next Control [Re: ]
#598488 - 04/04/02 10:10 AM (23 years, 21 days ago) |
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No, I wanna be the sock puppet. How does one apply for the position?
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Re: Tracking Implants - The Next Control [Re: ]
#598523 - 04/04/02 10:54 AM (23 years, 21 days ago) |
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Shroomism,
Have you ever heard the phrase "power corrupts, absolute power corrupts absolutely"?
Question: How do you know when a politician is lying?
Answer: When his lips move.
What politician or government official do you think will come clean, the president? Like
Bill Clinton came clean? Like Gary Condit came clean? Like Richard Nixon came clean?
What kind of people are attracted to politics as a profession? People who desire power to
control things and control people as they deem best works to compel conformity to their
personal idea of a 'better world.' How will coming clean improve such a person's control of
the levers of power?
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Re: Tracking Implants - The Next Control [Re: CACA]
#598536 - 04/04/02 11:08 AM (23 years, 21 days ago) |
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Man CACA --- try to calm down or something
-- I dunno what you read into what I wrote but I was simply pointing out that...
I LIKE EVERYONES OPINIONS.............
Maybe you think I'm some childish american -- but from what JESUS taught me is that I don't make assumptions like that and I never read to far into what people say
-- Half the time I'm on this site reading peoples posts I see how everyone just shits on each other is some pissing fight ---- but then again thats just another judgment in a long line of false assumptions
I beleive in everyone -- even people who look down on me because we are all the same..... I believe in JESUS and the words he spoke when he walked the Earth ---- Just Ideas no religion ------ JUST IDEAS -- because that is all we can give to one another
CACA I think you just get to upset about words --- don't let them eat at you
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Re: Tracking Implants - The Next Control [Re: SofaJesus]
#600331 - 04/06/02 03:56 AM (23 years, 19 days ago) |
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The goverment has got coersion, manipulation, brain washing etc down to an art, they most likely will succeed in getting chips into most people because, it will get to a point where you won't be able to get a good job or get a drivers licence or this or that without a chip. I mean chips are already being designed for certain corporations to use for security purposses, what's next? I could see them spouting some shit like " It's for the publics best intrests that we protect the american people at all costs " then going on to say we need these chips to protect us from terrorists.
Think about all the convienences a chip could bring:
Less crime do to the end of currency and the birth of pure credit.
No more hassles like, keeping recepts for taxes, shit no more keeping records of anything! how great would that be. Life would be so much easier. No more bothering with checks or credit cards or dirty cash, just swipe you hand over this scanner and be on your way!.
If you're in an accident and unconsious or somthin they could just scan your hand and find out all your medical info. Geez there are countless reasons for getting a chip, you'd have to be an idiot not to get one.
And the few that don't get chips will soon be stigmatized just like drug users are today. People will start thinking you have something to hide if you don't have a chip, you'll be looked down on, you'll be an outkast, you'll be free though?
I think my point to all this is, who cares? So this chip will be able to track me where ever I am, so what? Maybe this chip will help people see that all the so called freedoms we have/had are/were made up anyways, maybe then people will wake up to what true freedom is.
'I awoke' to find myself tucked snugly into a strip jacket, I yelled, "at last..... I'm
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Re: Tracking Implants - The Next Control [Re: ]
#600642 - 04/06/02 03:18 PM (23 years, 19 days ago) |
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Have you ever heard the phrase "power corrupts, absolute power corrupts absolutely"?
No but now I have.
What politician or government official do you think will come clean, the president? Like
Bill Clinton came clean? Like Gary Condit came clean? Like Richard Nixon came clean?
I think it would start slowly, with several individuals in the government leaking "classified" information, perhaps a few branches releasing previously undisclosed information to the public, and when they see how the public responds to that sort of thing, come out with the big guns. Like the president sitting in front of America admitting most of the major lies and other unbelievable stuff that they have been hiding from the US public for so long.
What kind of people are attracted to politics as a profession?
As a general rule of thumb... people who desire wealth, power, and control over others.
People who desire power to
control things and control people as they deem best works to compel conformity to their
personal idea of a 'better world.'
Yeah
How will coming clean improve such a person's control of
the levers of power?
Well, this is the catch. They are in a position of great power now... but they understand the effects of the changes taking place on our world. They know they wont be in power for very long. Basically it boils down to... if they continue lying and using deception on the people all the way until the end of "the veil of illusion being lifted" then they will find themselves in a very bad place, with NO power, worthless money, and a society of people that don't trust them or listen to them at all. If they come clean before the proverbial shit hits the fan, it takes a great burden off their backs, and makes it much easier for them in the long run.
At first their plan was to stop this 'global awakening' or 'ascension' process as quickly as possible... or at least slow it down. They did succeed in slowing it down.. but once they realized that the change was inevitable, and very close at hand.. they began to rethink their game plan.
Watch the news in the coming months. Its already pretty interesting, and I guarantee its only going to get better.
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Re: Tracking Implants - The Next Control [Re: ]
#600792 - 04/06/02 06:45 PM (23 years, 18 days ago) |
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Shroomism,
It seems you are the eternal optimist, I applaud you for your ability to see the potential for good in the political class and I sincerely hope you're right. However, I think that people who would act the way you suggest are a small minority of those who reach positions of power. Your implied supposition is that they will act rationally and do what you believe is right. Humans as a species, are not rational beings they are beings that rationalize. Your concept of the right thing to do does not necessarily coincide with what those in positions of authority think is the right thing to do. (A very instructive book on politics is "The Prince" by Machiavelli it's insights into what people can and will do to get and maintain power are true for all political systems.)
I fear that things will get much worse before they get better. The process of getting better may not start until after 'the shit hits the fan' and those in power have exhausted all the horrible tools in their growing arsenal in order to maintain their grip on power. A cornered and wounded animal will fight most viciously before it's imminent demise.
I've heard it said that there's a Chinese curse, 'May you live in interesting times.' We are living in interesting times.
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Re: Tracking Implants - The Next Control [Re: ]
#601197 - 04/07/02 08:53 AM (23 years, 18 days ago) |
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Indeed my friend, indeed.
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Re: Tracking Implants - The Next Control [Re: Swami]
#601532 - 04/07/02 06:11 PM (23 years, 18 days ago) |
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you are very right, but have no fear, do not fight evolution, know that the destruction of the earth is immenant and for those of us who choose to ascend it will not appear that the earth has been destroyed at all, but recreated into the fifth demension, the new earth composed of onesness and unity in divine love. evil cannot pervade into the new earth. when we chose to crucify christ we chose the new earth, an oppertunity for those who believe to ascend, who knows where the others will go.
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Re: Tracking Implants - The Next Control [Re: cHeMiCaLbLuE]
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when we chose to crucify christ ...
Sorry. I participated in no murder, neither physically nor symbolically. Do NOT include me in your conspiratorial delusion.
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sorry, when i said we i meant we as in earlier human race, why did you assume that i meant you, could you have been their watching it all happen and are still hiding your inner guilt for not standing up for him and what is right.
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Thank you for answering that question.
Now do you know anything about where it talks about WWI & WWII, or are those a couple of those Nostrildamnus kind of versus that are so vague as to applicable to just about anything?
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Re: Tracking Implants - The Next Control [Re: World Spirit]
#602749 - 04/08/02 10:17 PM (23 years, 16 days ago) |
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Well I'm no Bible expert or anything.. but I find that Revelations deals with a lot of what we are experiencing right now. Now this is just my opinion...but I find many similarities. For example:
Genesis 9:13 I do set my bow in the cloud and it shall be for a token of a
covenant between me and the earth.
Genesis 9:14 And it shall come to pass when I bring a cloud over the
earth that the bow shall be seen in the cloud.
Genesis 9:16 And the bow shall be in the cloud and I will look upon it
that I may remember the everlasting covenant between God and evey
living creature of all flesh that is upon the earth.
Now take a look at THIS
Now what follows is my very brief and incomplete interpretation of The book of Revelation. Please note this is my opinion and my perspective, I am not omniscient.
1I watched as the Lamb opened the first of the seven seals. Then I heard one of the four living creatures say in a voice like thunder, "Come!" 2I looked, and there before me was a white horse! Its rider held a bow, and he was given a crown, and he rode out as a conqueror bent on conquest.
I'm not sure what this could mean.. but I'm not very involved in politics.
3When the Lamb opened the second seal, I heard the second living creature say, "Come!" 4Then another horse came out, a fiery red one. Its rider was given power to take peace from the earth and to make men slay each other. To him was given a large sword.
This could perhaps be likened to the current struggle in the Middle East
5When the Lamb opened the third seal, I heard the third living creature say, "Come!" I looked, and there before me was a black horse! Its rider was holding a pair of scales in his hand. 6Then I heard what sounded like a voice among the four living creatures, saying, "A quart[1] of wheat for a day's wages,[2] and three quarts of barley for a day's wages,[3] and do not damage the oil and the wine!"
hmmm...
7When the Lamb opened the fourth seal, I heard the voice of the fourth living creature say, "Come!" 8I looked, and there before me was a pale horse! Its rider was named Death, and Hades was following close behind him. They were given power over a fourth of the earth to kill by sword, famine and plague, and by the wild beasts of the earth.
What are we doing to the middle East?
9When he opened the fifth seal, I saw under the altar the souls of those who had been slain because of the word of God and the testimony they had maintained.
Sound familiar? (Note suicide bombers etc)
10They called out in a loud voice, "How long, Sovereign Lord, holy and true, until you judge the inhabitants of the earth and avenge our blood?" 11Then each of them was given a white robe, and they were told to wait a little longer, until the number of their fellow servants and brothers who were to be killed as they had been was completed.
12I watched as he opened the sixth seal. There was a great earthquake. The sun turned black like sackcloth made of goat hair, the whole moon turned blood red, 13and the stars in the sky fell to earth, as late figs drop from a fig tree when shaken by a strong wind. 14The sky receded like a scroll, rolling up, and every mountain and island was removed from its place.
This has yet to happen, but I reckon it sounds very much like a sudden pole shift
15Then the kings of the earth, the princes, the generals, the rich, the mighty, and every slave and every free man hid in caves and among the rocks of the mountains.
I have been told that during the pole shift many people will seek refuge underneath the Earth and in caves
16They called to the mountains and the rocks, "Fall on us and hide us from the face of him who sits on the throne and from the wrath of the Lamb! 17For the great day of their wrath has come, and who can stand?"
Who can stand indeed? I'm not going to touch the rest of the book... mayhaps another time. It is full of metaphors and Bible talk which I don't feel like I can get into at this time. As far as WWI and WWII... I'm sure there in there somewhere. Nostradamus did have a quatraine which I believe was very much describing a world war, and then a second one. Let me see if I can find it..
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Re: Tracking Implants - The Next Control [Re: Swami]
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The people in power are literally salivating over this and will find subtle ways (weeding out terrorism?) to introduce these to the society-at-large
BUMP
Okay, you have to see this. Gotta hand it to you Swami, when you're right, you're right! Not quite tracking controls but it's getting there...This is getting all too real...
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"And he causes all, both great and small, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads: And no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark"
The "mark of the beast" is the upcoming aids vaccine.
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In reply to:
White horse and rider = The antichrist himself
O.J. Simpson drove a white Bronco.
Spooky huh?
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Freedom of Speech? How many major magazines have done a negative article on the WOD?
Just thought I'd add.. the Economist and New Scientist both have done huge stories against the WOD.
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shroomism: that certainly does sound like a description of a polar shift. haven't scientists predicted this to occur fairly soon? i wonder if this coincides at all with 2012...
evolving: i don't think the bible mentions anything about WWI and II in plain text. however, several words relating to WWII (hitler, fuhrer, goring, holocaust, ovens, etc) were found encoded in the same passage of Deuteronomy. i know that the same words could probably be found in War and Peace, but all in the same passage.... seems to me highly improbable that it would just be coincidence.
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that certainly does sound like a description of a polar shift. haven't scientists predicted this to occur fairly soon? i wonder if this coincides at all with 2012...
hmm.. you think? That would be crazy!
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Re: Tracking Implants - The Next Control [Re: mariasabina]
#660737 - 06/03/02 01:35 PM (22 years, 10 months ago) |
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guess i'd better start hangin with the enlighted ones more often 
but seriously, i can't wait for 2012
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Re: Tracking Implants - The Next Control [Re: mariasabina]
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mariasabina wrote:
that certainly does sound like a description of a polar shift. haven't scientists predicted this to occur fairly soon?
What scientists? What are the facts and the calculations to back up this assertion? When you speak of polar shift, does this refer to the magnetic poles or will the planet 'flip'? One would seem to be more probable than the other.
mariasabina wrote:
however, several words relating to WWII (hitler, fuhrer, goring, holocaust, ovens, etc) were found encoded in the same passage of Deuteronomy. i know that the same words could probably be found in War and Peace, but all in the same passage.... seems to me highly improbable that it would just be coincidence.
Please tell me more. This sound like an interesting exercise in Gestalt psychology.
Did you know that today I saw a pig chasing a butterfly in the sky? Of course my mind was imposing patterns over the images of the clouds that I was observing. Who knows what amazing patterns I would find in various writings if I wrote a computer program to search them out. Hmm, maybe I could sell a lot of books to people who are looking for quick and easy answers to life's mysteries. I could play on their religious beliefs and tell them things that they think actually validate their accepted mythology. I could be living on easy street if I invested my money wisely...
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lol
Keep it up evolving...
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it will be a magnetic pole shift, causing the tropical areas to become frigid and vice versa.... too lazy too look up all the data, maybe i'll do a search later
about those codes if you really want to hear more i recommend Signature of God by grant jeffreys. unless of course you'd rather not contribute to this guy's easy livin.
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Re: Tracking Implants - The Next Control [Re: mariasabina]
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Re: Tracking Implants - The Next Control [Re: Swami]
#662977 - 06/04/02 03:40 PM (22 years, 10 months ago) |
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When your whole life revolves around smoking grass and growing shrooms you tend to start to think that the government is against you and wants to totally control your life. Next you hear about these implants and think its a conspiracy. This technology is called chipping. Ypu get a chip and loose your wallet. It would be a cashless society. In fact our society alredy is almost cashless. If you think that for every dollar that is accounted in the economy is actually printed and sitting somewhere you are wrong. How often do you actually cash your paycheck. These things only contain an identification code they don't store info. They are scanned, ran through a database and then the database is updated not the chip.
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