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Re: Tracking Implants - The Next Control [Re: Swami]
    #598406 - 04/04/02 08:41 AM (21 years, 10 months ago)

In the UK every government since the war has tried to introduce compulsory id cards, but the people wont accept it. So what do they try instead? They are suggesting that people will have 'entitlement' cards with your biomedical data on a chip. You wont have to carry one but if you dont, you wont get medical care, state benefits, wont be able to legally drive etc.. They are also suggesting chipping every vehicle so they can introduce road congestion charges, though they admit they will also make the data avaliable to the police etc.. So although it may seem unlikely that governments can force every citizen to be chipped, they will introduce it slowly under legitimate guises. The police here can sample your DNA if you are arrested, but must destroy it if you are found not guilty. However a court just ruled that they can keep it to add to a national database to 'aid crime prevention'. so they can arrest you for something crap like obstructing a police officer, and they got your DNA for life...


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Re: Tracking Implants - The Next Control [Re: Swami]
    #598431 - 04/04/02 09:08 AM (21 years, 10 months ago)

What you see as youthful naivete I see as applied insight. I say within the next year the Government will either come clean about all of their many, many lies.. or at least most of them. And if that doesn't happen its going to be forced out of them. Just watch, its already happening now, little by little. People are getting used to the fact that their government lies and has lied to them about many things. Its only a matter of time now before they are forced to come clean under increasing public pressure.

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Re: Tracking Implants - The Next Control [Re: Swami]
    #598436 - 04/04/02 09:10 AM (21 years, 10 months ago)

That being said I think the first major confession is going to go something like this:

President on TV: It has come to my attention that many years ago, certain agencies of the Government purposely lied and mislead the American people about the facts in the Roswell incident....


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Re: Tracking Implants - The Next Control [Re: CACA]
    #598475 - 04/04/02 09:57 AM (21 years, 10 months ago)

CACA, are you the christian sock puppet of Zahid?

Please state the verse(s) where WW1 and WW2 are predicted in your holy bible.

Please state the verse(s) in your holy bible that refer to the 'rapture.'

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Re: Tracking Implants - The Next Control [Re: ]
    #598488 - 04/04/02 10:10 AM (21 years, 10 months ago)

No, I wanna be the sock puppet. How does one apply for the position?


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Re: Tracking Implants - The Next Control [Re: ]
    #598523 - 04/04/02 10:54 AM (21 years, 10 months ago)

Shroomism,

Have you ever heard the phrase "power corrupts, absolute power corrupts absolutely"?

Question: How do you know when a politician is lying?
Answer: When his lips move.

What politician or government official do you think will come clean, the president? Like
Bill Clinton came clean? Like Gary Condit came clean? Like Richard Nixon came clean?

What kind of people are attracted to politics as a profession? People who desire power to
control things and control people as they deem best works to compel conformity to their
personal idea of a 'better world.' How will coming clean improve such a person's control of
the levers of power?

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Re: Tracking Implants - The Next Control [Re: CACA]
    #598536 - 04/04/02 11:08 AM (21 years, 10 months ago)

Man CACA --- try to calm down or something

-- I dunno what you read into what I wrote but I was simply pointing out that...

I LIKE EVERYONES OPINIONS.............

Maybe you think I'm some childish american -- but from what JESUS taught me is that I don't make assumptions like that and I never read to far into what people say

-- Half the time I'm on this site reading peoples posts I see how everyone just shits on each other is some pissing fight ---- but then again thats just another judgment in a long line of false assumptions

I beleive in everyone -- even people who look down on me because we are all the same..... I believe in JESUS and the words he spoke when he walked the Earth ---- Just Ideas no religion ------ JUST IDEAS -- because that is all we can give to one another

CACA I think you just get to upset about words --- don't let them eat at you


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Re: Tracking Implants - The Next Control [Re: SofaJesus]
    #600331 - 04/06/02 03:56 AM (21 years, 10 months ago)

The goverment has got coersion, manipulation, brain washing etc down to an art, they most likely will succeed in getting chips into most people because, it will get to a point where you won't be able to get a good job or get a drivers licence or this or that without a chip. I mean chips are already being designed for certain corporations to use for security purposses, what's next? I could see them spouting some shit like " It's for the publics best intrests that we protect the american people at all costs " then going on to say we need these chips to protect us from terrorists.

Think about all the convienences a chip could bring:

Less crime do to the end of currency and the birth of pure credit.

No more hassles like, keeping recepts for taxes, shit no more keeping records of anything! how great would that be. Life would be so much easier. No more bothering with checks or credit cards or dirty cash, just swipe you hand over this scanner and be on your way!.

If you're in an accident and unconsious or somthin they could just scan your hand and find out all your medical info. Geez there are countless reasons for getting a chip, you'd have to be an idiot not to get one.

And the few that don't get chips will soon be stigmatized just like drug users are today. People will start thinking you have something to hide if you don't have a chip, you'll be looked down on, you'll be an outkast, you'll be free though?

I think my point to all this is, who cares? So this chip will be able to track me where ever I am, so what? Maybe this chip will help people see that all the so called freedoms we have/had are/were made up anyways, maybe then people will wake up to what true freedom is.




'I awoke' to find myself tucked snugly into a strip jacket, I yelled, "at last..... I'm
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Re: Tracking Implants - The Next Control [Re: ]
    #600642 - 04/06/02 03:18 PM (21 years, 10 months ago)

Have you ever heard the phrase "power corrupts, absolute power corrupts absolutely"?

No but now I have.

What politician or government official do you think will come clean, the president? Like
Bill Clinton came clean? Like Gary Condit came clean? Like Richard Nixon came clean?


I think it would start slowly, with several individuals in the government leaking "classified" information, perhaps a few branches releasing previously undisclosed information to the public, and when they see how the public responds to that sort of thing, come out with the big guns. Like the president sitting in front of America admitting most of the major lies and other unbelievable stuff that they have been hiding from the US public for so long.

What kind of people are attracted to politics as a profession?

As a general rule of thumb... people who desire wealth, power, and control over others.

People who desire power to
control things and control people as they deem best works to compel conformity to their
personal idea of a 'better world.'


Yeah

How will coming clean improve such a person's control of
the levers of power?


Well, this is the catch. They are in a position of great power now... but they understand the effects of the changes taking place on our world. They know they wont be in power for very long. Basically it boils down to... if they continue lying and using deception on the people all the way until the end of "the veil of illusion being lifted" then they will find themselves in a very bad place, with NO power, worthless money, and a society of people that don't trust them or listen to them at all. If they come clean before the proverbial shit hits the fan, it takes a great burden off their backs, and makes it much easier for them in the long run.
At first their plan was to stop this 'global awakening' or 'ascension' process as quickly as possible... or at least slow it down. They did succeed in slowing it down.. but once they realized that the change was inevitable, and very close at hand.. they began to rethink their game plan.
Watch the news in the coming months. Its already pretty interesting, and I guarantee its only going to get better.

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Re: Tracking Implants - The Next Control [Re: ]
    #600792 - 04/06/02 06:45 PM (21 years, 10 months ago)

Shroomism,

It seems you are the eternal optimist, I applaud you for your ability to see the potential for good in the political class and I sincerely hope you're right. However, I think that people who would act the way you suggest are a small minority of those who reach positions of power. Your implied supposition is that they will act rationally and do what you believe is right. Humans as a species, are not rational beings they are beings that rationalize. Your concept of the right thing to do does not necessarily coincide with what those in positions of authority think is the right thing to do. (A very instructive book on politics is "The Prince" by Machiavelli it's insights into what people can and will do to get and maintain power are true for all political systems.)

I fear that things will get much worse before they get better. The process of getting better may not start until after 'the shit hits the fan' and those in power have exhausted all the horrible tools in their growing arsenal in order to maintain their grip on power. A cornered and wounded animal will fight most viciously before it's imminent demise.

I've heard it said that there's a Chinese curse, 'May you live in interesting times.' We are living in interesting times.

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Re: Tracking Implants - The Next Control [Re: ]
    #601197 - 04/07/02 08:53 AM (21 years, 10 months ago)

Indeed my friend, indeed.

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Re: Tracking Implants - The Next Control [Re: Swami]
    #601532 - 04/07/02 06:11 PM (21 years, 10 months ago)

you are very right, but have no fear, do not fight evolution, know that the destruction of the earth is immenant and for those of us who choose to ascend it will not appear that the earth has been destroyed at all, but recreated into the fifth demension, the new earth composed of onesness and unity in divine love. evil cannot pervade into the new earth. when we chose to crucify christ we chose the new earth, an oppertunity for those who believe to ascend, who knows where the others will go.


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Re: Tracking Implants - The Next Control [Re: cHeMiCaLbLuE]
    #601539 - 04/07/02 06:28 PM (21 years, 10 months ago)

when we chose to crucify christ ...
Sorry. I participated in no murder, neither physically nor symbolically. Do NOT include me in your conspiratorial delusion.


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Re: Tracking Implants - The Next Control [Re: Swami]
    #601547 - 04/07/02 06:49 PM (21 years, 10 months ago)

sorry, when i said we i meant we as in earlier human race, why did you assume that i meant you, could you have been their watching it all happen and are still hiding your inner guilt for not standing up for him and what is right.


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Edited by cHeMiCaLbLuE (04/07/02 06:51 PM)

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Re: Tracking Implants - The Next Control [Re: Swami]
    #602095 - 04/08/02 10:34 AM (21 years, 10 months ago)

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Re: Tracking Implants - The Next Control [Re: World Spirit]
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Re: Tracking Implants - The Next Control [Re: World Spirit]
    #602662 - 04/08/02 09:05 PM (21 years, 10 months ago)

Thank you for answering that question.



Now do you know anything about where it talks about WWI & WWII, or are those a couple of those Nostrildamnus kind of versus that are so vague as to applicable to just about anything?

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Re: Tracking Implants - The Next Control [Re: World Spirit]
    #602749 - 04/08/02 10:17 PM (21 years, 10 months ago)

Well I'm no Bible expert or anything.. but I find that Revelations deals with a lot of what we are experiencing right now. Now this is just my opinion...but I find many similarities. For example:

Genesis 9:13 I do set my bow in the cloud and it shall be for a token of a
covenant between me and the earth.
Genesis 9:14 And it shall come to pass when I bring a cloud over the
earth that the bow shall be seen in the cloud.
Genesis 9:16 And the bow shall be in the cloud and I will look upon it
that I may remember the everlasting covenant between God and evey
living creature of all flesh that is upon the earth.

Now take a look at THIS

Now what follows is my very brief and incomplete interpretation of The book of Revelation. Please note this is my opinion and my perspective, I am not omniscient.


1I watched as the Lamb opened the first of the seven seals. Then I heard one of the four living creatures say in a voice like thunder, "Come!" 2I looked, and there before me was a white horse! Its rider held a bow, and he was given a crown, and he rode out as a conqueror bent on conquest.

I'm not sure what this could mean.. but I'm not very involved in politics.

3When the Lamb opened the second seal, I heard the second living creature say, "Come!" 4Then another horse came out, a fiery red one. Its rider was given power to take peace from the earth and to make men slay each other. To him was given a large sword.

This could perhaps be likened to the current struggle in the Middle East

5When the Lamb opened the third seal, I heard the third living creature say, "Come!" I looked, and there before me was a black horse! Its rider was holding a pair of scales in his hand. 6Then I heard what sounded like a voice among the four living creatures, saying, "A quart[1] of wheat for a day's wages,[2] and three quarts of barley for a day's wages,[3] and do not damage the oil and the wine!"

hmmm...

7When the Lamb opened the fourth seal, I heard the voice of the fourth living creature say, "Come!" 8I looked, and there before me was a pale horse! Its rider was named Death, and Hades was following close behind him. They were given power over a fourth of the earth to kill by sword, famine and plague, and by the wild beasts of the earth.

What are we doing to the middle East?

9When he opened the fifth seal, I saw under the altar the souls of those who had been slain because of the word of God and the testimony they had maintained.

Sound familiar? (Note suicide bombers etc)

10They called out in a loud voice, "How long, Sovereign Lord, holy and true, until you judge the inhabitants of the earth and avenge our blood?" 11Then each of them was given a white robe, and they were told to wait a little longer, until the number of their fellow servants and brothers who were to be killed as they had been was completed.
12I watched as he opened the sixth seal. There was a great earthquake. The sun turned black like sackcloth made of goat hair, the whole moon turned blood red, 13and the stars in the sky fell to earth, as late figs drop from a fig tree when shaken by a strong wind. 14The sky receded like a scroll, rolling up, and every mountain and island was removed from its place.

This has yet to happen, but I reckon it sounds very much like a sudden pole shift

15Then the kings of the earth, the princes, the generals, the rich, the mighty, and every slave and every free man hid in caves and among the rocks of the mountains.

I have been told that during the pole shift many people will seek refuge underneath the Earth and in caves

16They called to the mountains and the rocks, "Fall on us and hide us from the face of him who sits on the throne and from the wrath of the Lamb! 17For the great day of their wrath has come, and who can stand?"

Who can stand indeed? I'm not going to touch the rest of the book... mayhaps another time. It is full of metaphors and Bible talk which I don't feel like I can get into at this time. As far as WWI and WWII... I'm sure there in there somewhere. Nostradamus did have a quatraine which I believe was very much describing a world war, and then a second one. Let me see if I can find it..

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