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fermenting LC
    #5970038 - 08/16/06 04:30 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

Hello gentlemen and ladies, I've been reading here for a long while (maybe a year) bidding my time till I get the chance to start my own experiments. When I read something and some of my own questions come up, rather then asking I've only had to look around this site and the answers were readily available.

I'm also a budding home brewer, which is easy being that my lineage is Italian and I've been making wine with my dad and granddad since I can remember. So brewing beer doesn't raise any eyebrows with the family. So looking around the shroomery for shroom-beer, shroom-wine and the like I came across this Blue 'magic' Mead recipe.

Reading it over it sounds like he is fermenting a honey lc! But I was thinking, how does the mycelium grow when the recipe for mead is based on LOTS of honey and some water.
I've read where people can't get mycelium to start growing when they put in only a teaspoon too much karo.

So I was wondering if anyone has any kind of explaination? Or have is missed something about honey LCs? Either way Mead is something I was promising a friend I'd make, so while I'm making it I'm sure I can spare some time and honey to try out two bottles worth.


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Re: fermenting LC [Re: MonChe]
    #5970092 - 08/16/06 04:51 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

theres a whole lot of gaps in that whole thing... i wouldn't expect it to work at all.

for starters, sugar water in a petri isn't even a suitable medium for germinating spores.  doubtful that works.  from there, he suggests cutting an inch square of the culture... uh ok, how are you gonna cut an inch of liquid? :smile:  we use agar in petri plates, because it gels up, an you can cut it up in that manner... but without it, sugar water is going to be... sugar water, not gel.

secondly, where is this clump of shrooms the size of your hand going to come from?  since when does spores + sugar + water = mushrooms? :smile:  either he's missing a *lot* of steps in the explanation, or its totally bogus...


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Re: fermenting LC [Re: creamcorn]
    #5970148 - 08/16/06 05:12 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

Thats where I thought things were a little strange too. He also says to try to get the spores from a dried up shroom by 'tapping' it... So I was thinking instead of trying to grow mycelium inside the mead, grow it proper in jars then add that to the mix before fermenting. Can the mycelium be strained out of the water?


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Re: fermenting LC [Re: MonChe]
    #5970217 - 08/16/06 05:34 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

yeah, a metal mesh tea strainer works good.

mycelium in a liquid culture produces very very little actives. might still make for an interesting drink nonetheless...


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Re: fermenting LC [Re: creamcorn]
    #5970514 - 08/16/06 06:50 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

My guy made a 5 gallon thick LC.
Then recovered,  dried & bio-tested the content.
He said he got a better buzz of a Martini. :tongue:


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Re: fermenting LC [Re: Tippinthru]
    #5970956 - 08/16/06 08:34 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

Yeah, mushrooms are the only perfect container for psilocybin.


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Re: fermenting LC [Re: MonChe]
    #5972184 - 08/17/06 06:45 AM (17 years, 5 months ago)

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MonChe said:
shroom-beer, shroom-wine and the like


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I'm relatively inexperienced with all this, but I do know from personal experience that spores won't germinate in a solution containing more than about 5% honey. BUT, even if they did germinate, they wouldn't fruit. The good stuff is produced as the fruits grow, not as the mycelium grows. That's why we wait until the mushrooms come up instead of eating the mycelium. What can you do with PF's liquor extraction tek?

*Keep in mind that if you get psilocybin much past the boiling temperature of ethanol, the stuff breaks down into a non active chemical.


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