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Salvia 20X
    #5969035 - 08/16/06 10:13 AM (17 years, 5 months ago)

I just got some 20X stuff and I tried only using a little bit I wasn't sure how much I should use and I only have a gram. I only got mild effects after smoking the small amount and figured I come here before just so I don't waste the small amount of it I have. I have smoked the leaves before and got simlar effects but I was smoking out of a hookha and with alot of stuff (but of course its not as good.) But as my guess I need to add more to what I'm smoking and I'm smoking out of a bowl which I assume should be fine. But when I was here about this salvia extract I was expecting not to need much from the stories I had heard but I guess I just need more but I don't assume I need most of the gram, do I?


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Re: Salvia 20X [Re: MrFantasy]
    #5969040 - 08/16/06 10:16 AM (17 years, 5 months ago)

Do you have a bong? Well either way just take one very large rip (66%-75% lung capacity), and hold it in for 30 seconds (count when you do this) You should feel the effects 'soaking' in (thats what it feels like to me) It takes a little bit for the Salvinorum A. to enter your blood stream, which is why you need to hold it in for so long. Be careful though, I had an overly intense salvia journey and I no longer care for the entheogen.


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Re: Salvia 20X [Re: MrFantasy]
    #5969042 - 08/16/06 10:17 AM (17 years, 5 months ago)

No, I doubt you'll even be able to finish the gram. Just take a pinch of it, toss it into a regular bowl, and use a regular lighter. Thats what my GF and I did and we had fantastic results. Just find a comfortable place and let it do all the work! Have fun, and safe voyage!


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Re: Salvia 20X [Re: plurby]
    #5969051 - 08/16/06 10:21 AM (17 years, 5 months ago)

I would deffinitly reccommend a sitter. And it will take about a fat pea-sized amount to achieve good effects. Don't just pack a bowl full of 20x lol. Being in the dark is much better than the light. Being in full light brings on confusion to me and makes it very akward and kinda scary. I would reccommend closing your eyes when you take it, it's a lot more controllable and you will have more of a trip then if you would have kept them open.


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Re: Salvia 20X [Re: AKSE]
    #5969070 - 08/16/06 10:30 AM (17 years, 5 months ago)

I've tried salvia 10X a few times and have gotten quite jarring effects out of it. I would say the first time you smoke it you should have a sitter around, maybe even the first few times so you know its effects and know how to handle it best. I've only had my eyes open on a trip and it has been very confusing and uncomfortable. I would recommend closing your eyes even though I haven't tried it...seen lots of recommendations for it and people's trips seem to be more meaningful and understandable.


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Re: Salvia 20X [Re: ezsefix]
    #5969083 - 08/16/06 10:38 AM (17 years, 5 months ago)

If you smoke it properly, you wont need much. a gram of 20X is quite a bit, if it really is true 20X. I always buy from iamshaman, top quality every time.

Make sure the flame is to the leaf the entire hit, don't just let it cherry. Hold it in at least as long as you can. A good indication of you hitting it properly is the lack of smoke on exhale.

Make sure to dim out all the lights. NO TV!! some soothing tribal or electronic music, or no music at all. close your eyes....

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Re: Salvia 20X [Re: EquilibriuM]
    #5969615 - 08/16/06 02:22 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

I id about everything said here except holding the lighter to it the whole time, maybe thats my problem. Is it possible that I may need a high X amount, considering it did work just like the leaves did like I orginally said or should I wait to make that conclusion until I try the holding the lighter to it the whole time.


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Re: Salvia 20X [Re: MrFantasy]
    #5969817 - 08/16/06 03:12 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

Yup...Wait for it. High Burn is essential....Flame that bowl!!
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Re: Salvia 20X [Re: deadheadjpc2000]
    #5969983 - 08/16/06 04:05 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

yeah...20x you should only need 1/20th of a gram actually to get regular results. For a more intense trip, i would say a 1/10th of a gram. For a wicked trip...1/5th. If you dont have a scale, i would recomend getting one.


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Re: Salvia 20X [Re: unseenat17]
    #5970028 - 08/16/06 04:23 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

less is more.

approach it with caution to figure out the right dose.

20-60 minutes lying down breathing deeply before smoking can be of great comfort. the weird wtf factor is still there, but it's easier to handle.

10x for me was very very strong so 20x should be fine, more than likely. it's just about figuring out the right amount, and starting small and working up is a good way to figure it out.

i'd also not mix with any other drugs (ala weed) the first time either. it was not comforting for me to be coming down on salvia while coming up on weed.

and again you gotta be really careful, taking it very lightly, less is more more more more and more is ..........


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Re: Salvia 20X [Re: leery11]
    #5972748 - 08/17/06 12:41 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

Just tried it again holding the lighter to it until it was basically gone or just white ash...but only the same minor effects. Maybe I don't have 20X, it's deff salvia but maybe not as strong as advertised, unless something else is still going wrong but I really don't know what.


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