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KingOftheThing
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george galloway on israel
#5967851 - 08/15/06 10:18 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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i love this guy
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JesusChrist
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He is entertaining to watch.
Hezbollah crossed the border and killed people and took hostages. That is what started this war and the destruction of Lebanon. Do you think differently? If so, when did this war start?
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God, what a fucking loon. I think I just moved slightly to the right from watching that.
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Hank, FTW
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I think he makes good arguments. He clearly names the pro-Israeli Bias which I'm always a fan of. Sooner or later the Muslims are gonna catch up technologically and Israel is going to have to face the music for these crimes.
I know you all argue "but if Israel does nothing, they are already doomed" and to that I say one thing: The USA military.
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Seuss
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Re: george galloway on israel [Re: JesusChrist]
#5968596 - 08/16/06 04:02 AM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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> If so, when did this war start?
A couple of thousand years ago...
> Sooner or later the Muslims are gonna catch up technologically
One of three things will happen:
1) Middle eastern Muslims would accept modern responsibilities required by technology ending their medieval ways.
2) Middle eastern Muslims will use their modern technology to destroy each other while the rest of the world sits back and watches.
3) Middle eastern Muslims will use their modern technology to destory the rest of the world, wiping themselves out in the process.
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Re: george galloway on israel [Re: Seuss]
#5968655 - 08/16/06 05:09 AM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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Lebannon was not medieval, it is now thanks to their entire infrastructure being decimated. How would you characterize 'modern responsibilities?' How responsible were the Israelis with their bombs when they killed a few thousand Lebanese civilians? How responsible were the British and the Americans when they overthrew the democratically elected prime minister of Iran Mohammed Mossadegh in order to defend British oil interests? How responsible were any of the worlds rich nations when they stood by and did nothing while the Janjaweed militia committed genocide in Darfur or during the genocide in Rwanda.
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Andy21
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Having said all that, Galloway is a self promoting dick.
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Basilides
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Get in maa belly
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The_Red_Crayon
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Im sorry but Galloway really is a lunatic, also Noam Chomsky is a lunatic. Ive got several videos i can find with both of those guys giving speeches to radical islamists.
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zappaisgod
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Re: george galloway on israel [Re: Andy21]
#5969966 - 08/16/06 03:55 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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Andy21 said: Lebannon was not medieval, it is now thanks to their entire infrastructure being decimated. How would you characterize 'modern responsibilities?' How responsible were the Israelis with their bombs when they killed a few thousand Lebanese civilians? How responsible were the British and the Americans when they overthrew the democratically elected prime minister of Iran Mohammed Mossadegh in order to defend British oil interests? How responsible were any of the worlds rich nations when they stood by and did nothing while the Janjaweed militia committed genocide in Darfur or during the genocide in Rwanda.
Now you're just lying Andy, there haven't been a few thousand Lebanese casualties. And who is responsible for that anyway? Hezbollah, for every one of them. Mossadegh was overthrown because he was pro Soviet Union, one of the greatest evil empires ever. Janjaweed? Rwanda? So what is it? Act or don't act? Make up your mind. You bitch at both courses
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Re: george galloway on israel [Re: JesusChrist]
#5970083 - 08/16/06 04:49 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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JesusChrist said: Hezbollah crossed the border and killed people and took hostages. That is what started this war and the destruction of Lebanon. Do you think differently? If so, when did this war start?
This is far from a factual statement. As of yet it is unknown weather the isreali soldiers were captured inside isreal or weather they were already in lebanon when they were ambushed. No matter how many times the "isreal can do no wrong" crowd repeat their opinion it doesn't make it fact.
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zappaisgod
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RosettaStoned said:
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JesusChrist said: Hezbollah crossed the border and killed people and took hostages. That is what started this war and the destruction of Lebanon. Do you think differently? If so, when did this war start?
This is far from a factual statement. As of yet it is unknown weather the isreali soldiers were captured inside isreal or weather they were already in lebanon when they were ambushed. No matter how many times the "isreal can do no wrong" crowd repeat their opinion it doesn't make it fact.
You keep spouting this lie. Why? Everybody, even anti-Israeli parties including several Arab governments have condemned Hez for doing so. Do you have one fucking shred of anything to back this fallacious bit of crap up or do you just completely produce ass exhaust and expect us to breathe deeply of its vapors? What nut log group are you getting this from? Inquiring minds want to know. No linkee......then stop lieing.
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Re: george galloway on israel [Re: Andy21]
#5970659 - 08/16/06 07:27 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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Andy21 said: How responsible were the British and the Americans when they overthrew the democratically elected prime minister of Iran Mohammed Mossadegh in order to defend British oil interests?
You might want to do a little research into Mossadegh. He had one of Saddam's elections. Half a century ago he was "elected" in Iran. They counted the votes from that large country in a number of hours, and he was a near unanimous choice. Just like Saddam used to be. Right after the election, the legislature voted unanimously to disband itself and strip itself of all power, giving absolute authority to Mossadegh.
Mossadegh was going to be a communist dictator backed by the Soviet Union. Had the Soviet Union be able to take Iran, they could have later expanded in the middle east. Had they been able to control the middle east they could have won the cold war. And you my friend would probably in a labor camp, praising the great leader for your gruel and brushing up on your Russian.
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Re: george galloway on israel [Re: zappaisgod]
#5971268 - 08/16/06 09:48 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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You keep spouting this lie.
And what lie is that? The fact that it is not current known for a fact where the isreali soldiers were kidnapped at?
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No linkee
Do you have the memory of a goldfish? I posted almost 5 links in another thread. The links were from many different sources, don't expect me to do it again simply because you can't remember things from a week ago.
I'll say it again, we do not know if those soldiers were captured from inside isreal or lebanon. Unless you can provide me a link from hezbollah admitting they crossed the isreali boarder to do it, or isreal admitting it happened in lebanon, it remains one word against the other.
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Basilides
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I'll say it again, we do not know if those soldiers were captured from inside isreal or lebanon.
Yes we do.
A) The Arab League condemned the attack as cross border
B) Hezbollah has never denied it
C) Hezbollah planned the attack for a long time
D) Hezbollah even gave the attack a name
E) The intention of the attack in itself was to kidnap 1 or more live Israeli soldiers. The element of such a planned incursion is always going to involve cross border hostility.
F) It doesn't really matter anyways, as Hezbollah fired a feint Katyusha into Israel that day.
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Hank, FTW
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Re: george galloway on israel [Re: Basilides]
#5971595 - 08/16/06 11:19 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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Basilides said:
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I'll say it again, we do not know if those soldiers were captured from inside isreal or lebanon.
Yes we do.
A) The Arab League condemned the attack as cross border
B) Hezbollah has never denied it
C) Hezbollah planned the attack for a long time
D) Hezbollah even gave the attack a name
E) The intention of the attack in itself was to kidnap 1 or more live Israeli soldiers. The element of such a planned incursion is always going to involve cross border hostility.
F) It doesn't really matter anyways, as Hezbollah fired a feint Katyusha into Israel that day.
Were there any Israeli soldiers in any part of Lebanon that day? My guess would be yes, but if someone can tell me one way or the other, i'd appriciate it.
I am just curious as to whether Israel was still occupying ANY part of Lebanon(since the 2000 pull out), and if they were, were these soldiers taken from there.
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Re: george galloway on israel [Re: Hank, FTW]
#5971642 - 08/16/06 11:38 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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The only contested land at the moment is Sheebaa Farms, and that is a long time occupation. Why would two Israeli humvees consisting of only 5 soldiers venture over the border? Not only is it dangerous, it's absolutely pointless. Finally, Hezbollah has never denied the cross border incursion.
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Hank, FTW
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Re: george galloway on israel [Re: Basilides]
#5971663 - 08/16/06 11:44 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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Well if Israel was in Lebanese territory, clearly it is the Israelis who were the provocateurs.
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Basilides
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Re: george galloway on israel [Re: Hank, FTW]
#5971709 - 08/17/06 12:00 AM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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Do you even know that happened that day? Hezbollah fired a diversionary rocket into Israel with the sole purpose of making a cross border ambush on some very light Israeli patrol. We're talking about 2 lightly armored Israeli humvees consisting of only 5 soldiers. This attack by Hezbollah was also planned for a long time. It even had the code name "Truthful Promise".
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