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Feedback on birthing plan
    #5966627 - 08/15/06 04:19 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

First time grow using 1/2 pint (regular, not wide-mouth) BRF jars. 6 Equadorian, 5 Amazonian (forgot to inoculate one of them - heh).

It's been 11 days since innoculating the Amazonians, and 2 of them are in the end stages of colonization. One, however, is completely colonized except for the bottom, and already has two tiny pins in different areas. Should I be concerned at all? With the rest of the jar colonized, will the bottom colonize fast enough such that I don't end up with a bunch of pins before I dunk?

Next up is fruiting. My plan thus far is to case two of the Amazonians in one case, and two of the Equadorians in another. I'm thinking of using the 'Sea of Shrooms' tech on the Amazonians. I'll be leaving the rest of each type as cakes. Is it ok to house cakes and casings in the same FC?

As far as an FC, my plan is to get a plastic bin big enough to house 7 cakes and two casings, use perlite for humidity, drill several holes for air exchange, and fan regularly.

Some questions:

Is perlite a good idea when doing 7 cakes and 2 casings (of two cakes each) in the same FC? Will it provide enough humidity? Should I plug the holes with anything to block contaminants or somehow filter the air? Should I add a pump with a bubble stone to reduce the needed frequency of fanning?

Many thanks for all your help - I can't wait to post pictures when I start getting some flushes!


Edited by Mawfz (08/15/06 04:19 PM)


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Re: Feedback on birthing plan [Re: Mawfz]
    #5967343 - 08/15/06 07:51 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

I would skip the cakes and case em all. Doing multiple casings will help you learn and give better chances for success as well.

Cakes generally need as close to 100% humidity as possible, while casings, having moisture of their own, prefer 80-90% humidity.

By doing an FC of casings, you won't need perlite, and can spray when you fan, and things will be much easier and cleaner.

Those are my recomendations.  :thumbup:

My first grow, I did what you are describing, and after seeing the poor results from the cakes, I crumbled them to poo and had MUCH better results...


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Re: Feedback on birthing plan [Re: Cubenisseur]
    #5967788 - 08/15/06 09:55 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

It just makes me nervous going with all casings. That said, is it better to make a bunch of smaller casings or a couple of big ones? I could make 4 casings of out of the 11 jars, two per strain, or I could split individual cakes and case them.. I'm just not sure what to do.

What is the generally prescribed casing layer for BRF substrate? And you're saying I definitely wouldn't need perlite, even using all those cakes?

Also, any thoughts on the jar that is already showing a couple of tiny pins, yet has not colonized the bottom?


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Re: Feedback on birthing plan [Re: Mawfz]
    #5968899 - 08/16/06 09:04 AM (17 years, 5 months ago)

This is how I started


The potency was horrible on these cake shrooms, and I immediatly cased the cakes into poo...






So basically, as I noted earlier, the FC is cleaner without perlite. You don't have to mess with cakes which don't produce as well as casings, and you can have multiple casings to play with.

You can see the difference in the size of my shrooms between the two casings pictured. That was as a result of using slightly different technics...or in other words, kinda winging it! :smile:

After that grow, I learned a lot and on my 2nd, I got the pinning strategy down a lot better-


I also learned other things on this 2nd grow. I put my poo in a bit wetter than before and the casings ended up contaming on my 2nd flush.

So, each step will help educate you and you can try slightly different strategies with your casings which is why I recommend doing a few smaller ones to start with, but IMO it's not even worth birthing straight cakes. Like I said, I birthed a couple cakes and after the first flush crumbled them into poo and wished I had done it from the start.


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Re: Feedback on birthing plan [Re: Cubenisseur]
    #5969097 - 08/16/06 10:42 AM (17 years, 5 months ago)

Unfortunately, I don't have access to poo at the moment.

If I just broke the cakes up and cased with jiffy mix would I be in good shape? Note - I don't have access to a PC at the moment, either.

Thanks a ton, by the way - those shrooms are beautiful!


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Re: Feedback on birthing plan [Re: Mawfz]
    #5970674 - 08/16/06 07:32 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

Hmmm...I'm not sure about the jiffy mix. Maybe someone else will chime in to help with that. No need for the PC if your doing BRF.

Your welcome and thank you! :smile:


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