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Offlineeznaizaldatuko
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Help identifying very bad stuff
    #5963787 - 08/14/06 07:14 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

First of all, thanks in advance for your time and I'm sorry if this question is very basic and beat into the ground. Most of my jars are veritible abortions of mycology. have a look.

So... out of all the jars I've injected with spores, all but two look something like this:



The other two look like this:



I know that anything except white is bad, but what the hell is all that bright orange crap? I used Perlite instead of vermiculite because apparently vermiculite causes cancer? (That's what the guy at Home Depot told me) ...

Also, is the orange/yellow stuff harmful? How should I dispose of it?

Thanks a lot.


Edited by eznaizaldatuko (08/14/06 07:19 PM)


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Re: Help identifying very bad stuff [Re: eznaizaldatuko]
    #5964236 - 08/14/06 09:22 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

By the looks of it, all of your jars are contaminated unfortunately. Throw them out and start working vermiculite.


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Re: Help identifying very bad stuff [Re: eznaizaldatuko]
    #5964247 - 08/14/06 09:25 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

what doesn't cause cancer nowadays?


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Re: Help identifying very bad stuff [Re: Oashi]
    #5964264 - 08/14/06 09:30 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

Follow the tek. However, that isn't what caused your contamination problem. That was caused by not following sterile procedures. Perlite is not a replacement for vermiculite which does NOT cause cancer. After the dude at Home Depot told you that BS story, I'm sure he told some other guy the best lawn mower to buy, then the next guy he told how to wire his room addition, etc. etc.
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Re: Help identifying very bad stuff [Re: RogerRabbit]
    #5964580 - 08/14/06 11:06 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

Awww, LAME!!!

This is the reason I can't find vermiculite anywhere!!

All the stores in my area stopped stocking it because of some internet rumour about vermiculite containing asbestos... well, it's not a rumour necessarily, but the vermiculite that is distributed for gardening purposes, is NOT the same sort of vermiculite that contains asbestos.  :mad:

Some knowledgeable fellow at Armstrong Gardens explained the story to me, and how ridiculous it is... apparently, patrons of the garden stores were dismayed and appalled to see that their supply store was selling vermiculite (because of the alleged asbestos), so some people organized against shopping at garden shops that carried vermiculite.

What a heap of shit.

Fucking soccer moms need to stay in their SUV's and at the gym and quit organizing against stuff they are not educated on.

Boredom is not an excuse to start useless causes. 
Get a fucking hobby (aside from gardening you wenches)!!!


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Re: Help identifying very bad stuff [Re: CureCat]
    #5965485 - 08/15/06 09:20 AM (17 years, 5 months ago)

well when I bought my vermiculite from home depot, after working with it making my substrate, i found warning labels all over the side saying to use a face mask and gloves and to avoid contact with eyes and skin. Kind of funny since I was working pretty close with it, but I was fine and my cakes are colonizing fine.


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Re: Help identifying very bad stuff [Re: smurfyshmu]
    #5965628 - 08/15/06 10:25 AM (17 years, 5 months ago)

people are so gullible.

why don't people think for themselves?

seriously.

If I have a question or concern, I research it.

If you would research about vermiculite, you would know you are at no harm from using it.
Your shampoo, however, is effecting you in negative ways you could only imagine.

You honestly believe some uneducated floor sales person from a box store? Over the people whom actually use this product?

I guess the moral of the story is to WAKE UP.

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Re: Help identifying very bad stuff [Re: monstermitch]
    #5965640 - 08/15/06 10:31 AM (17 years, 5 months ago)

oh, and to your jars:

looks to me like your inoculation technique is flawed.
mold most likely.
don't know which kind.

introduced during inoculation.
looks like the holes are taped with clear packing tape??
if so, then it is most certainly non-sterile inoculation.

advice:

find a tek that you like.
read it like four times.
acquire every supply needed for it.
follow the tek and never miss a word.
DO NOT substitute anything or cut any corners.
Do not accept mistakes, follow it correctly.

Common Sense would guess a procedure repeated exactly should produce
results very similar each time.


good luck with your new hobby.


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Re: Help identifying very bad stuff [Re: monstermitch]
    #5965645 - 08/15/06 10:33 AM (17 years, 5 months ago)

Of course, common sense dictates we wear a dust mask when working around dust. I use one especially when breaking up horse manure because I don't want that shit all up my nose. If I were going to work with a large quantity of vermiculite, I'd wear a mask as well, just as I would if I were sawing concrete, or working around someone who is. It isn't so much about cancer, but about those big crunchy buggers.
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Re: Help identifying very bad stuff [Re: RogerRabbit]
    #5980024 - 08/19/06 09:55 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

Its not that vermiculite is poisionous, but a couple years back one of the major mining areas for vermiculite was found to be contaminated with deadly asbestos fibers. Although Vermiculite itself isn't deadly to such degrees, hundreds of people across the country died from the ore mined from the contaminated site. People were dying from home improvement projects..... There are more mines now (that one is closed), but it was a humongous supplier whos dissappearance is a key player in why its so damn hard for us mycophiles to find vermiculite.

Home Depot doesn't sell vermiculite.... thats why he hustled some perlite on you. You got played.


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Re: Help identifying very bad stuff [Re: Edgekrusher]
    #5980405 - 08/19/06 11:20 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

Nobody died from doing home improvements with materials from the Libby site. It was the workers in the mine who had a higher than normal instance of cancers and asbestosis which takes many years to develop with daily, on the job exposure. Don't spread disinformation.

Vermiculite is very easy to find. Just go to hydroponic, swimming pool or commercial insulation supply houses to get the very large bags. Garden centers carry the small bags for nearly the same price as the above have the 4 cubic feet bags. The reason home depot doesn't sell vermiculite is market driven. Their customers weren't buying it in sufficient quantities to keep in stock.
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Re: Help identifying very bad stuff [Re: RogerRabbit]
    #5980499 - 08/19/06 11:55 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

RR, I went to 4 garden centers in my area and none of them carried nor knew where to find any vermiculite. I ended up ordering it through Armstrong Gardens. I also asked my friend who worked at a pool supply store, and he did not know of any other pool stupply stores in the area, nor did his shop carry vermiculite.
the only hydroponic stores are about 1hr away.

So it isn't always so easy to find... and I live in San Diego county.


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Re: Help identifying very bad stuff [Re: CureCat]
    #13290372 - 10/04/10 07:46 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

lowes has a big ass bag of thermo-rock brand for 20 bucks


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Re: Help identifying very bad stuff [Re: markdogg420]
    #13294869 - 10/05/10 05:41 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

I was able to find vermiculite at Menards.

Tell them you're looking for vermiculite loose fit attic insulation.  My bag is HUGE and for $10; goes by Micaflake.


Edited by Santi (10/05/10 05:41 PM)


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