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Entheogenic Experiment with Iprocin (4-ho-dipt)
    #5962633 - 08/14/06 12:48 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

Hey all. This is my first post here, though I've been lurking for a while now. Thought I'd share a report of my latest entheogenic experience. Enjoy.

Purpose: To examine and overcome the fear of what other people think and feel about me and examine the dissonance between my current mind frequencies and that of closely surrounding society and culture.

Mindset: I am calm and somewhat weary. Also anxious about previous experiments and lack of significant experience with this particular chemical catalyst.

Setting: My room; quiet. Music for preparation work is Structures from Silence by Steve Roach: wonderful ambient, mellow and meditative music. Music for the rest of the experiment will be drumming & didgeridoo music of Australian and African aboriginies. Aloeswood incense fills the room.

Preparation: Reading from Krishnamurti’s On Fear. Meditation on purpose for this experiment.

Catalyst: 12mg iprocin with 12mg booster one hour later.

Log:
12:40AM - Reading randomly selected passages from On Fear. Krishnamurti drills directly to the base reality of things. The ego revolts against his words, but cannot deny their truth.

12:55AM - Meditation.

1:10AM - Ingest the first portion of the iprocin in a gelcap and reflect on the reading and meditation.

Any fear that is not a mortal fear is based on memory. Be aware of fear in the moment and know that it is only an idea in your mind, not reality. Then move through the fear as it does not exist. Remember Herbert’s litany against fear:

Fear is the mind killer. Fear is the little death that brings total obliteration. I will face my fear. I will permit it to pass over me and through me. In the end, only I will remain.

Beliefs are things we fear are untrue. Beliefs are ideas that we attach to ourselves and become part of our self-image; a post driven into the ground in the field of our mind that we are chained too. The stronger the belief, the shorter the chain. Man believes in God, but he fears there is no God. Man believes his country is the greatest on the planet, but he fears his country is just an illusion. Man believes he is a cog in the system, but he is afraid that the system is an illusion. Whether he is a cog in the system or a rebel against it he needs the system. He needs the rebel too, otherwise he has nothing to believe in. Illusory dialectics are the toys those in power use to control our minds.
1:40AM - After further meditation, I am feeling only a subtle hint of the catalyst. Enjoying the drums & didgeridoo music. Need my own clapsticks so I can play along.

2:10AM - The unreality of fear is so obvious now. Krishnamurti’s words are clear and understood. It all comes down to “Be Here Now.” So simple a sentence, yet so profound an idea. How many hundreds of millions of words have been written elaborating on this simple concept? Well, the book Be Here Now is pretty lenghty…
Only minor effects are felt from the first iprocin dose, so the second is ingested.

The dissonance between my own mind and the collective mind of the communities I am surrounded in is evident. The martial arts community I am a member of praises the warrior above all other archetypes. It is a very polarized community; if you are not a warrior, then you are a sheep and the sheep are not worthy human beings. I have never thought, nor do I yet think, of myself as a warrior. An artist, musician, thinker, philsopher perhaps, but not a warrior. While the path of the warrior can lead to a more evolved being, it does not seem to be the right and harmonious path for me.

This realization has lead to thoughts of fear of what the other members of the community will think as I lose interest and our paths diverge. I must listen to the universe, feel its resonances in me and know the path I take is my true will, no matter what those close to me may think of my choices. I must meet their criticism with love and understanding even if they do not return it.

2:50AM - A mild psychedelic state continues. A greater dosage will be needed next time. I lie down in the dark to induce a trance state.

3:20AM - Somewhere around here I drifted off to sleep.

4:40AM - I awoke from what seemed like many hours of sleep into the middle of a full strength trip. I never experienced this catalyst to have such a delayed onset before. Fear took over now as I was really not expecting this. As I lay in bed with my eyes still closed I saw white light overlayed with a fast-moving nature-themed pattern that shifted and morphed. It gradually slowed to a halt as I opened my eyes. I felt too much fear and confusion to dive straight into this drug, so I diverted and distracted myself until a I felt comfortable in the experience. I am disappointed with myself for this fear-based response. I did the same thing on my last heavy psychedelic experience. I am too attached to the ego and fear letting go of it. It is something I must overcome to continue along this path. Given the positive energy of iprocin, I think it would be a good tool to overcome this fear.

6:40AM - Spent the last two hours drifting between a meditative state and sleep. Still definitely in the grips of this drug. Unfortunately I ran out of energy by this point and could not maintain focused meditation for long, but I attempted to continue with the purpose of this experience.

Conclusion:
I started the experiment too late and ran out of energy just as the peak experience came. I will experiment more with the split dosage, perhaps taking the first dose as I begin preparation rather than afterwards. The meditation and reading helped greatly in staying focused on the purpose of the experience. I may lengthen the preparation to 45 - 60 minutes next time.

It seems clear that my energy is drawing me to a different community and lifestyle. Something tells me I will not likely find this community in my present habitat. Things seem to be leading me to another location. I also see my relationship with my roommate is coming to a close. We became roommates to fulfill a need in each other. That need has been filled and it is time for us to part as our paths are diverging more and more.

Though the psychedelic peak came unexpectedly and left me with insuffecient energy to utilize it fully, I consider this a successful, worthy and healing experience. I will continue to work with this structure in future experiments.



Peace.


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Re: Entheogenic Experiment with Iprocin (4-ho-dipt) [Re: brumal]
    #5965296 - 08/15/06 06:14 AM (17 years, 5 months ago)

interesting, thanks for sharing!

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Re: Entheogenic Experiment with Iprocin (4-ho-dipt) [Re: brumal]
    #5965581 - 08/15/06 10:02 AM (17 years, 5 months ago)

4-ho-dipt has a steep dose-response curve. As a result 12 mg is only a threshold dose while 24 mg is quite a strong dose. I prefer 20 to 22 mg in a single dose.


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Re: Entheogenic Experiment with Iprocin (4-ho-dipt) [Re: donvliet]
    #5965664 - 08/15/06 10:39 AM (17 years, 5 months ago)

how does one obtain Iprocin?
I checked it out at wikipedia and it seems to be an analogue of psilocin/psilocybin...


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Re: Entheogenic Experiment with Iprocin (4-ho-dipt) [Re: redgreenvines]
    #5972881 - 08/17/06 01:30 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

One would generally buy it from sources that can't be discussed on this board. Or, one would be a talented individual and synthesize it with the recipe in Tihkal, on erowid.


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Re: Entheogenic Experiment with Iprocin (4-ho-dipt) [Re: brumal]
    #5972917 - 08/17/06 01:42 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

I have been trying to obtain Iprocin and/or 4-aco-det for a while now but with no luck. Sounds like an interesting experience and my hope for one day sampling one of them is now renewed.


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Re: Entheogenic Experiment with Iprocin (4-ho-dipt) [Re: Koala Koolio]
    #5975424 - 08/18/06 09:13 AM (17 years, 5 months ago)

Que funky dub music

Sythesize it, yeaahh, and we will advertise it :laugh:


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Re: Entheogenic Experiment with Iprocin (4-ho-dipt) [Re: schmutzen]
    #5979050 - 08/19/06 04:51 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

i might give some iprocin a try tomorrow or tonight. should i avoid a lot of people, like when on mushrooms? would night or day be better? 25mg will be my dose, how would you say the visuals are...if there are any at all? (i have heard iprocin doesn't produce much visual activity.


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