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ghost in the shell
    #5962380 - 08/14/06 11:11 AM (17 years, 5 months ago)

its some very fine anime.anybody catch it.what do you believe about
the concept of a ghost in the machine.do you think a soul can be transferred to a computer.?
http://www.levitated.net/daily/levEmotionFractalFS.html


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Re: ghost in the shell [Re: jungjedi]
    #5962416 - 08/14/06 11:24 AM (17 years, 5 months ago)

I don't believe in a soul that actually "exists" apart from the physical body...more that "soul" of any thing is that which makes the whole more than the sum of its parts.

I took the meaning of "ghost" as our sentience or consciousness - not an ethereal "soul". The ghost of any human was the part of their mind that makes them sentient, able to act with their own free will. The computer that generates a ghost of its own does so because it becomes fully sentient - "I am able to act of my own free will" it says a few times.

I do think that human sentience, including past memories, will eventually be "copied" in to non-biological substrate. Certainly not in to anything we consider a "computer" today...but in to something built by humans.


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Re: ghost in the shell [Re: trendal]
    #5962706 - 08/14/06 01:11 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

the best Japanese animation I've seen sense akira, dam good for shrooms as well, I think AI could learn to be self aware,


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Re: ghost in the shell [Re: capliberty]
    #5963286 - 08/14/06 04:18 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

thank u 2 for your posts.i am new to philosophy.i only said computer to be culturally spacific.i do think in order to attain conciousness,a "many minds" or "many worlds" computer would have to be constructed just to run calculations on the thing.then,it would be a quantumbiomechanical construct with most of its existence suspended in different types of space..-anti desitter space,calibi-yule space,kuzla -klien topologies.
heres a pdf i found.
http://www.imprint.co.uk/pdf/smythies.pdf


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Re: ghost in the shell [Re: jungjedi]
    #6023143 - 09/02/06 07:53 PM (17 years, 4 months ago)

I am a huge GiTS fan . . which is your favorite season?
Favorite feature length?


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