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SneezingPenis
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A good quote I thought I would share.....
#5961680 - 08/14/06 03:03 AM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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"Tis a fearful thing to love what death can touch"
im not sure who said/wrote it, but I think it is quite profound and poetic.
Is there a balance in the realm of emotion? is it truly better to give than to receive? If you love someone, and find your perfect counterpart in life, someone who so aptly completes and symbiotically fortifies your being, and you find a happiness that you have never known, a depth of elation never thought possible....... doesn't the flip side of that, no matter your stance on death, balance that happiness out through a sorrow and loneliness never before thought possible?
in any relationship, someone has to die before the other, and I think both positions are unbearable in the face of infinite, symbiotic love and care. Even if you believe that they are prancing through the meadows of the Elysian fields, or doing the conga-line on the carribean cruise across the river Styx, is it not human nature to still feel that the greatest good, or happiness, or worth of living would stem from that person still being with you and alive at the present time?
I am a person who is often accused of fierce stoicism, especially in the face of depressing mortality, but even my beliefs lead me to believe that whatever happiness is gained through love, is counter-balanced by the crushing reality of death.
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redtailedhawk
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Re: A good quote I thought I would share..... [Re: SneezingPenis]
#5962027 - 08/14/06 08:26 AM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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I think the quote is wrong. As I see it, it is very brave to open ones heart and love another human being, when you know he is merely mortal and will leave you one way or another one day. The grief at the death of the partner doesn't balance out the love you've shared - it completes it.
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It is a fact of life that it can be hard and painful. Yet it is also incredibly beautiful and joyful. To experience joy it is necessary to keep ones heart open. Yet that also requires being open to all the pain and sorrows of the world. To run away from pain, is to run away from life and one only ends up alone, frustrated and depressed.
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"Who are you who live in all these many forms? You're death that captures all. You too are the source of all that's gonna be born. You're glory, mercy, peace, truth. You give calm a spirit, understanding, courage, the contented heart."
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Fractalated
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Re: A good quote I thought I would share..... [Re: SneezingPenis]
#5962055 - 08/14/06 08:46 AM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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For me, knowing that someone or something I love will someday cease to exist helps me love and appreciate them for what they are, while they're here.
-------------------- "Now that the principalities and the powers stockpile weapons of mass destruction, contaminate the earth with their feverish industry, release floods of images to trigger insatiable desires, treat animals and humans as commodities and functions of a market, the devil must be grinning from ear to ear."
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PhanTomCat
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Re: A good quote I thought I would share..... [Re: redtailedhawk]
#5963566 - 08/14/06 05:54 PM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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Quote:
redtailedhawk said: To run away from pain, is to run away from life and one only ends up alone, frustrated and depressed.
Living in/with pain can also render the same results (alone, frustrated and depressed)....  But, that is sort of taken out of context of the topic..... 
>^;;^<
-------------------- I'll be your midnight French Fry.... "The most important things in life that are often ignored, are the things that one cannot see...." >^;;^<
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leery11
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Re: A good quote I thought I would share..... [Re: PhanTomCat]
#5963632 - 08/14/06 06:19 PM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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this is a bit like musing that, perhaps since life is more suffering than joy.... we were better off not having existed in the first place.
perhaps a true reasoning, and a driving force to seek inward freedom and liberation.
i don't have much authority to say this, but if you find love within yourself that completes you and makes you joyful, moreso than ever possible..... anything else would be extra, and the love of your life would not be something you are attached to and thus you would be willingly to let it go when it's time, given that you are indeed already complete to begin with.
on the other hand a very firm attachment to a loved thing will indeed reap so much hurt, than a pragmatic and stoic assessment of your relation.
but regardless i think one of the most cruel things is a human existence without love.....
-------------------- I am the MacDaddy of Heimlich County, I play it Straight Up Yo! ....I embrace my desire to feel the rhythm, to feel connected enough to step aside and weep like a widow, to feel inspired, to fathom the power, to witness the beauty, to bathe in the fountain, to swing on the spiral of our divinity and still be a human...... Om Namah Shivaya, I tell you What!
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Veritas

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Re: A good quote I thought I would share..... [Re: SneezingPenis]
#5967762 - 08/15/06 09:45 PM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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Quote:
Tis a Fearful Thing
It is a fearful thing to love what death can touch.
A fearful thing to love, hope, dream:
to be--
to be, And! to lose.
A thing for fools, this,
and a holy thing,
a holy thing to love.
For your life has lived in me, your laugh once lifted me, your word was gift to me.
To remember this brings painful joy.
'Tis a human thing, love, a holy thing, to love what death has touched.
--Anonymous
Fearful, yes. But what else is worth loving, if not that which death can touch? Shall we love objects? Ahhh...the devotion and loyalty of my cement walkway is truly moving, it will never die, and never leave me for another. I am safe in this love.
I dearly love a man who is nearly twenty years older than I am. As women generally live longer than men, the likelihood is that he will die before me.
Should I shy away from this love in fear of the risk? Will the pain of loss outweigh all the years of joy and companionship and growth we share? Of course not. If I choose to figuratively throw myself on the funeral pyre, and give up my life and joy when he dies, then perhaps I could come close to "balancing out" the positive experience of our loving relationship. If I choose, instead, to remember him with love and fondness, and let him go as gracefully as I am able, then I could never experience enough grief to outweigh or match our years together.
Love Love Love, ba ba dah...
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mr_kite
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Re: A good quote I thought I would share..... [Re: Veritas]
#5969367 - 08/16/06 12:38 PM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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"this is a bit like musing that, perhaps since life is more suffering than joy.... we were better off not having existed in the first place."
I totally disagree! re the last lines:
"'Tis a human thing, love, a holy thing, to love what death has touched."
What the poem is getting at is that vital something, the heart-beat of humanity; the human condition, which all great art seeks to express or reveal. Love realy is the centre of existance and if you haven't truly loved, Im afraid you havent truly lived.
Veritas
-------------------- let yourself be silently drawn by the stronger pull of what you really love
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