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What is your defensive toolset?
    #5955562 - 08/12/06 02:45 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

I have no need to worry about the JBTs or LEOs, I am a law abiding citizen, and all of my weapons are 100% legal. I plan to move to another country, however. I will obviously have to leave my firearms, I only hope I can land somewhere were I can both pursue my horticultural desires and continue to be a firearm owner. Does such a place exist?

Here is how I sleep at night.....
LMT AR-15 Lower, with RRA 2 stage trigger LPK, 6 position RRA stock, Leitner Wiese piston driven upper,pic rail system included, with Surefire M910A foregrip torch, Surefire L72 also present, and let's not forget the trusty Aimpoint CompM3, and yes I have BUIS's. They happen to be Troy flip ups. Mags? I thought you would never ask, I couldn't spring for the HK M16 SA80 mags, at 50$ each, I decided to bulk buy 120 USGI Okay industries 30 rounders for 100$ shipped per 10. Yeah ONE HUNDRED TWENTY 30 round magazines, I did ditch the green followers for MagPul's "Enhanced Leveling Followers" Oh, and I rotate between 60 loaded mags. Sidearm? Glock 20, KKM Precision barrel, steel guide rod, 22lb guide rod spring, CGR electro polished 3.5 connector, extended slide release, and loaded up with Double Taps 215 WFNGC 10 mike mikes that moves to fast and hit so hard you would have to think it is the hand of God himself. Only keep 5 mags loaded on hand for this one, but it is enough to get me to my rifle, body armor, gas mask, and googles for the flash bangs. I sleep well....

How do I get around? Simple, Benchmade 9050 AFO, a HAK straight edge, a Surefire M3, and my 10 mike mike igniter, of course.. It is legal to carry a firearm here as I do have a permit.

Sorry, can't sleep and figured I would at least ask you kind warm hearted intelligent people if you have any tools for self preservation.

Thank you for your time. Carry on.

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Re: What is your defensive toolset? [Re: USMCamputee]
    #5955572 - 08/12/06 02:54 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

I use my brain to avoid situations where the use of weapons would be necessary. Granted, I cannot prevent everything, but to live in fear of every possibility would suck the joy from life.


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Re: What is your defensive toolset? [Re: Seuss]
    #5955589 - 08/12/06 03:13 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

I understand and respect your decision. The Caribbean? I bet it is a nice place full of polite docile people who can accept folks living the good life and all of the gifts God himself blessed the earth with for good people to enjoy.
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I guess, perhaps being exposed to certain things has changed my perception of human beings and what they are capable of. I do not live in fear, for I am a Marine. I will always be, a Marine. No one will decide anything for me, what I can and can not do in my home, what I can and can not own. I see it one way, and in that one way I have two choices. Do as a please or fight to the death for the right to do so.

Pray for peace, but prepare for war........

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    #5956889 - 08/12/06 03:39 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

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Re: What is your defensive toolset? [Re: dr_gonz]
    #5956898 - 08/12/06 03:46 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

So far, I've got my 308, my custom built tourney over/under twelve gauge, my mauser, my 1874 44/40 calvalry pistol, my flint lock muzzleloader, and my favorite:

An antique Korean war SKS that my grandfather found on a dead Korean in the Korean War. He was a quartermaster, and smuggled it back to the US. Its complete with the original bipod, and bayonette. Original stock, original barrel, everything is original and fully restored. He just had to clean up the wood some (blood = damage to wood - kind of sad I know). He restored everything else, including reburning in the korean writing on the side of the rifle. Its a beautiful machine.

Its fun when your grandfather was a pretty famous gunsmith :smile: Pretty much everything I own I got from him as a present.


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Re: What is your defensive toolset? [Re: wiggles]
    #5957867 - 08/12/06 10:53 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

No more posting while intoxicated. You tend to mess shit up.
oops. It was $100 each per 10, via Aim Surplus for anyone else who needs to know, this was around the 4th of July. I do not know if they are still selling them this cheap, but they were.. These are NIW Okay Industries USGI mags.
Aim Surplus has great deals, If you want to build an AR, you can buy a "Stag" brand lower from them for a C note. Stag Arms used to make Colt's stuff, but when the AWB sunseted, they went into business for themselves. High quality stuff at a very reasonable price. Everyone should have a black rifle. I did my first build on a Stag lower but sold it to buy a Kimber Ultra Carry II.

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Re: What is your defensive toolset? [Re: USMCamputee]
    #5958704 - 08/13/06 10:00 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

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USMCamputee said:
Here is how I sleep at night.....





heres how I sleep at night


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Re: What is your defensive toolset? [Re: USMCamputee]
    #5958893 - 08/13/06 11:33 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

You should plant landmines all around your bed for that extra security!  :cool:

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Re: What is your defensive toolset? [Re: USMCamputee]
    #5958908 - 08/13/06 11:40 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

You worry too much, I know bad things can happen. But life is to be lived, not feared. :cool:

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Re: What is your defensive toolset? [Re: rod]
    #5958936 - 08/13/06 11:57 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

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You worry too much,  :cool:




I hear that from everyone I know. It is something that has just developed and I am trying to ease up, and let the paranoia go. It is something I am going to have to work on......

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Re: What is your defensive toolset? [Re: USMCamputee]
    #5959242 - 08/13/06 01:48 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Ready for the revolution eh ? ;D

Yeah I don't have any weapons o_O ... pocken knife or two O_O


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Re: What is your defensive toolset? [Re: p_dot_cubensis]
    #5959594 - 08/13/06 03:46 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Meh, to me they're not weapons, but then again I grew up in a hunting family, with a gunsmith as a grandfather. I would never think about using a gun against another person unless it was abeslutely crucial, and even then I doubt I could pull the trigger. To me they're just beautiful pieces of machinery. For instance, check out my pistol... its a family heirloom, and the metal was originally blued. However over the past hundred years the metal has slowly anodized, giving it an abesolutely beautiful, and unique marbled finish that I've only ever come close to seeing on titanium. Its a one of a kind.



One of the greatest gifts my grandfather ever gave me. Sorry, I like showing it off :smile:


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Re: What is your defensive toolset? [Re: wiggles]
    #5962565 - 08/14/06 12:22 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Hey, a pocket knife is just as deadly as a firearm. Did you know most shootings occur within 7 feet and are over in 3 shots or less? FBI national statistic for you there. Within 7 feet you have a decent chance with an edged item PROVIDED you have the training to deploy it effectively. The dynamics of each individual situation will dictate whether it would be appropriate however (logistical self preservation of fight or comply with your enemies demands, whichever will most likely leave you alive)


Wiggles that is really nice. What caliber is it? I know there were some oddball calibers back in those days, few of which are produced anymore.
32? 38? 44? 45? I know some were weird and dubbed 44-40, 38-44. I don't know if they were width and length demensions of the projectiles or what. I am mainly up on modern firearms and calibers.

I totally agree with the tool philosophy. The human is the only weapon I know. The thing that always gets me is when someone uses a "gun" for a crime, it is blame the "gun" time. When someone drives drunk and kills someone its always blame the person, as it should be in every instance regardless of how it happens or what means someone lost their life by.

Back in the day, everyone owned a firearm, I grew up in the sticks, and I knew where my father's Smith & Wesson model 29 was, and that it was loaded and ready to go. I also knew where the 30-06 Remington and Browning 12 gauge were, and where the ammo was. I took the old single shot bolt action .22 out a few times a week to plink around at coffee cans, among other things. I always remember the joy of shooting as a child. I was 12, 14 years old, and I loved wandering the woods with that old .22..........

I commend you on your treasure. I got some hand me downs but I traded them off for newer production items......

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Re: What is your defensive toolset? [Re: USMCamputee]
    #5963298 - 08/14/06 04:23 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Its a 44-40 calvalry pistol. Not the magnum, but it still packs one hell of a kick. It doesn't have a working safety though, and the chambers don't always line up correctly because the drum doesn't spin as free as it should. It needs some work, and we rarely shoot it (except on very special occasions) - big chance of a backfire on something that old :smile:

Its beautiful though, a simple, elegant machine which can quite literally mean the difference between life and death. There's maybe 2 moving parts on the entire thing.

I know what you mean about the back woods thing. My dad was a union worker, and when the union went on strike it meant no food, unless we went hunting. If it wasn't for my hunting rifle I probobly wouldn't be typing this message now.

(And just to make sure no one gets the wrong impression, I am not a sport hunter. I hunt when, and only when, I need food to live. I don't even kill bugs in my daily life. It is totally possible to be a 100% peaceful person and own multiple firearms. Besides, my grandfather always told me anything I shoot I have to eat, and I heard people taste kind of poopy)


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Re: What is your defensive toolset? [Re: wiggles]
    #5963500 - 08/14/06 05:31 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Yeah, those single action wheelguns are scarey. I have a few 1911s and even having a single action with a manual safety is uncomfortable to me. I pretty much use Glocks for real world use(every day carry) I like the simplicity and proven hard use reliability the Glock platform has become well known for.

You could probably take it to a local gunsmith and have them look it over. You can get on a firearm forum and ask too. Just a thought. You might have to ship it to an out of state gunsmith via FFL(s) but a competent gunsmith should be able to render it into 100% safe working condition. Back in those days powder formulations were quiet corosive so some parts might need to be replaced. A well outfitted gunsmith should be able to mill/forge parts. You might could find a diagram from Numrich (sp?) Firearms Parts Corp. Which of course could help you identify any parts that might need to be replaced and they have parts for almost every gun ever made. I got a catalog from them once to research a gun in particular and found it very helpful. It was around 2,000 pages or so. Huge refference. They bulk buy from manufacturers and have even bought firearm companys outright when they have gone on the market.

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Re: What is your defensive toolset? [Re: USMCamputee]
    #5963526 - 08/14/06 05:36 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Yeah, my biggest fear with a gunsmith is that the gun is unregistered to anyone. Given that it predates registration laws (by close to a hundred years!) it should be grandfathered in, but I don't really want to gamble with having a goody-two-shoes gunsmith who refuses to give the gun back because its not registered. I'm thinking I'll have to find one who specializes in antiques, but it'll have to wait til I have a bit more money :smile:


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Re: What is your defensive toolset? [Re: wiggles]
    #5963596 - 08/14/06 06:07 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Well, if you do not mind my asking, what state do you live in? Not all states have firearm registry. If you live in Oklahoma, Texas, Arizona, Arkansas, Utah, Colorado, Montana, Wyoming, Kansas, South Dakota, North Dakota, Nevada, and several others you do not have to register. If you live in the UK, Australia, or Canada you might be violating several laws by possessing a handgun.

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Re: What is your defensive toolset? [Re: USMCamputee]
    #5965462 - 08/15/06 09:09 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

i love guns, but i have always felt that a good set of locks and a dog make a better home security system than a gun. a gun is good as a last line of defense, but i wouldn't bother with one if i was growing illegal plants or fungi in the house. mere possession of drugs and guns on the same property can get you in some serious trouble. i can't imagine what kind of enhancements are on the books for manufacturing.

you've got some tricked out guns there i see. for home defense, give me a remington 870, in 12 gauge, with an 18 inch barrel and a surefire attached. being a marine, i imagine you're comfortable with the AR-15 and maybe that's the best choice for you. for most people, unless their attackers are wearing body armor or there are a dozen of them, a shotgun makes a better home defense weapon.

i wouldn't carry a weapon even if i was legally permitted, because where i live, i'm more likely to get into a brawl with some drunk kids than anything else, and the cops will be on the scene in seconds. you can't get into fist fights where you're carrying a gun. you have to shoot anyone that gets violent with you. i'd rather not have to do that. it's a moot point because i can't carry anyway.

a couple military style rifles for "SHTF" scenarios round out the citizen's armory. i'm not a fan of 5.56 NATO. i like the old 7.62 rifles. springfield armory's M1A's are good.

right now the only weapon in my home (without getting creative) is the ka-bar on the shelf next to my bed.


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Re: What is your defensive toolset? [Re: wilshire]
    #5965667 - 08/15/06 10:40 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Ka-Bar, I have one of those. :thumb:
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Dogs? I have 5, soon to be 6 I hope (I might adopt a dog from a friend)

I am very comfortable with the 5.56 NATO's performance, with the heavier loads in the 70 to 75gr projectile weight range you get really good temporary wound channels, slower velocity, better energy dump, less likely to overpenetrate. It allows you to carry more ammo and less weight.

I respect the 7.62, and it really shines in the FN-FAL. The M1A/M14 rifles are great, but the FN-FAL is the end all in what a 7.62 NATO rifle should be in my humble opinion. They are the AK47s of the 7.62 NATO realm, yet they are still highly accurate. The M1A still wins out on accuracy though, just a little better.......

I do own a Remington 870 Magnum with an 18" barrel and extended magazine tube. No other add ons like the AR. It is a no frills gun and I like it uncluttered.

The AR is good for me as I employ it very well and am highly accurate with it. I agree about the AR platform being too much for some people. You have to train with it. The charging handle, mag release, bolt release, and safety seems to be too much for some people, let alone focusing on accuracy.

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Re: What is your defensive toolset? [Re: USMCamputee]
    #5973447 - 08/17/06 04:29 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

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Ka-Bar, I have one of those.








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I respect the 7.62 The M1A still wins out on accuracy though




the M24 is more accurate


barret has range




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I agree about the AR platform being too much for some people. You have to train with it. The charging handle, mag release, bolt release, and safety seems to be too much for some people, let alone focusing on accuracy.




I own one that no one has had an issue with, I'd say yeah, it's a bitch if you were refering to the SKS but the AR is a pretty simple rifle to operate

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