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autistic poeple are mind controlling everyone. * 1
    #5952571 - 08/10/06 11:37 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

wasn't sure if this was the right forum to post in but i figured its not really related to anything else and i just wanted to get the word out.

keep in mind i'm pretty sure this is just a drug induced delusion and i don't take it seriously, but at the same time i think its real.

basically i found out autistic poeple and possibly poeple with certain types of brain damage/other mental dissabilities are controlling other poeple's minds. i don't think this is a direct psychic mind control thing, i think its more they control everything more by subtley directing poeple's attention one way or another through subconscious communication.
i don't think its the autistics in particular, although autistics are the most most obvious about it. right now i'm kind of guessing that it has something to do with being removed from normal cultural programming gives them access to a "purer" human state. part of not being infected by culture is they have less interfering with thier ability to percieve and they have a wider and more powerful range of expression (thus the ability to mind control everyone else).

also being more in tune with pure human nature, they naturally have a hive mind of sorts. because they rely more on inhernt humanity they all communicate the same subconious messages (this is a generalization and not entirely accurate)

i cannot percieve thier goals, it seems to be simply to point to "reality", but they also seem aware of how thier "pointing to reality" directly effects poeple's actions and may intentionally manipulate the actions of poeple.

edit: i encourage you to watch autistic poeple closely and look them square in the eyes and hopefully you'll see what i'm talking about.

edit2: someone proof reading this for me mentioned that there doesn't seem to be a connection bettween being more in touch with reality and being able to mind control poeple. for some reason i left this step out

i'm assuming culture adds filters on perceptions. it shapes what we see and how we feel about it so that we can communicate what we see to other poeple. 90 percent of the cultures i've viewed "dumb down" exsistence and make it into simple images, stories and feelings. when a person has been in a dumbed down culture too long they lose touch with the complexity of "realer" realities. a person with "realer" perceptions has more control over what they communicate and the things they subconsciously communicate are more powerful... hmm how to describe why they're more powerful. its like if there is a red car person a who has been dumbed down can only think of it and describe it as "a red car". person B) who is more in touch with reality and describe all the little details of it and point out whatever features of it they want. this is just an example.
with that greater ability to express themselves poeple in realer realities are able to influence the thoughts of other's through subconscious communication because they are less restricted by gross generalizations. poeple that are not used to that level of communication become confused and often are more willing to accept the suggestions of others. thats why autistics can mind control poeple.

like person A can only give the suggestion "go to the red car" person B can point to the door of the car and mimic turning the handle to open the door


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Re: autistic poeple are mind controlling everyone. [Re: truekimbo2]
    #5952668 - 08/11/06 12:05 AM (17 years, 5 months ago)

yea...


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Re: autistic poeple are mind controlling everyone. [Re: truekimbo2] * 1
    #5952691 - 08/11/06 12:12 AM (17 years, 5 months ago)

Huh? Evidence? Evidence?

I have Asperger Syndrome, which is a condition related to autism but a lot less debilitating. And hey, if I have latent mind-control abilities then dammit, I want to know about it!

Frankly, I think you're completely wrong about autistics being "more in tune with pure human nature." Seems to me autistics are less in tune with human nature. The subtlety of most human interactions is beyond their perception, thus they prefer to deal with cold logical studies.


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Re: autistic poeple are mind controlling everyone. [Re: supercollider]
    #5952703 - 08/11/06 12:15 AM (17 years, 5 months ago)

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Frankly, I think you're completely wrong about autistics being "more in tune with pure human nature." Seems to me autistics are less in tune with human nature. The subtlety of most human interactions is beyond their perception, thus they prefer to deal with cold logical studies.



what he said


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Re: autistic poeple are mind controlling everyone. [Re: supercollider]
    #5952705 - 08/11/06 12:16 AM (17 years, 5 months ago)

in my view, poeple with asperger's being more drawn to "cold logical studies" is an example of thier being more in tune with reality (and by extension true human nature). i think the reason the subtlety of human interactions is beyond thier perception is because most of human interaction is a shared, simplified illusion of what reality is supposed to be.

i'm unsure if they're aware of these illusions and choose to ignore them, or are actually unaware of them. i tend to think the former, but for my theory either would work.

edit: i have no evidence, this is just a theory based on observation. if you're interested in my theory, watch autistics very closely and look into thier eyes and if see if there is anything to discover.


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Re: autistic poeple are mind controlling everyone. [Re: truekimbo2]
    #5952802 - 08/11/06 12:53 AM (17 years, 5 months ago)

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truekimbo2 said:

i encourage you to watch autistic poeple closely and look them square in the eyes and hopefully you'll see what i'm talking about.





That alone is quite a feat in itself.  :eek:


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Re: autistic poeple are mind controlling everyone. [Re: truekimbo2]
    #5952871 - 08/11/06 01:31 AM (17 years, 5 months ago)

Damn, I'm not just going to stare at an autistic person for being autistic. That's basic manners.


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Re: autistic poeple are mind controlling everyone. [Re: PinballWizard] * 2
    #5953104 - 08/11/06 06:05 AM (17 years, 5 months ago)

Human nature.. any human on the earth can show you what that is. That's what they are. A human being lives. It's in his/her nature to do so.

That being said, it is true that people are aware of more than they know. Some people are more aware of different aspects of what reality is. Everyone has their own thing. It's also true that everyone shares what their thing is, whether or not they want to.

Accept yourself. Accept everyone around you. Have love for yourself and everyone around you. That is the only way to even begin to grasp the complexity of anyone's nature. The goal is to understand, not making assumptions or useless judgements. One way will enlighten you. The other will build up an illusion into something seemingly real.


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Re: autistic poeple are mind controlling everyone. [Re: truekimbo2]
    #5953117 - 08/11/06 06:19 AM (17 years, 5 months ago)

:toomuchacid:


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Re: autistic poeple are mind controlling everyone. [Re: eligal]
    #5953125 - 08/11/06 06:25 AM (17 years, 5 months ago)

> autistic poeple are mind controlling everyone

hmm... i guess that explains why i cant figure out how to use the shift key anymore... strange...


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Re: autistic poeple are mind controlling everyone. [Re: Seuss]
    #5953240 - 08/11/06 08:15 AM (17 years, 5 months ago)

:box:
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Re: autistic poeple are mind controlling everyone. [Re: Seuss]
    #5953248 - 08/11/06 08:19 AM (17 years, 5 months ago)

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> autistic poeple are mind controlling everyone

hmm... i guess that explains why i cant figure out how to use the shift key anymore... strange...




its right next to the any key. like derrrr...  :rolleyes:


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Re: autistic poeple are mind controlling everyone. [Re: PinballWizard]
    #5953254 - 08/11/06 08:22 AM (17 years, 5 months ago)

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Damn, I'm not just going to stare at an autistic person for being autistic.  That's basic manners.




lol..

hey..what are you doing? why are you staring at that poor kid? 

shh...autistic people control the world, I'm mind fuckin him right now, wanna help?

:smirk:


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Annnnnnd I had a light saber and my friend was there and I said "you look like an indian" and he said "you look like satan" and he found a stick and a rock and he named the rock ooga booga and he named the stick Stick and we both thought that was pretty funny. We got eaten alive by mosquitos but didn't notice til the next day. I stepped on some glass while wading in the swamp and cut my foot open, didn't bother me til the next day either....yeah it was a good time, ended the night by buying some liquor for minors and drinking nips and going to he diner and eating chicken fingers, and then I went home and went to bed.


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Re: autistic poeple are mind controlling everyone. [Re: kaiowas]
    #5957371 - 08/12/06 07:23 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

Commercials are more controlling. I heard a radio-commercial the other day that literally said You are not cool unless you have a new cellphone and a broadband connection.


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Re: autistic poeple are mind controlling everyone. [Re: Seuss]
    #7077868 - 06/21/07 11:23 PM (16 years, 7 months ago)

mind control is stretching it...

What is it then? A term I would like to call "helpless submissal".

I guess the easiest way to explain it is a genetic order that thrives on societys moreys.

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Re: autistic poeple are mind controlling everyone. [Re: truekimbo2]
    #7077879 - 06/21/07 11:27 PM (16 years, 7 months ago)

interesting


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Re: autistic poeple are mind controlling everyone. [Re: Cracka_X]
    #7077918 - 06/21/07 11:44 PM (16 years, 7 months ago)

The Curious Incident of the Dog in the Night-Time is a really cool read


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Re: autistic poeple are mind controlling everyone. [Re: Hyper_Panda_GO]
    #7077927 - 06/21/07 11:47 PM (16 years, 7 months ago)

i'll check it out, thanks for the directions.


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Re: autistic poeple are mind controlling everyone. [Re: truekimbo2]
    #7133669 - 07/05/07 05:20 PM (16 years, 6 months ago)

I see in what you are saying the basic premise of my unconscious fear that broke over into reality and paranoia.

In short I have learned that a significant part of my psychological make up is dependent on feeling better than others. More clever, talented. Looks do not come into this, in fact looks have become a paradigm that has arisen in tandem with the trials of the original realisation.

So I experienced a situation, a mindscape of delusion where all were explicitly hearing my thoughts. I expect this is best explained as a feasting or scavenging or gorging and ugly way. I had a physical defect, a hook, that was significant enough to base this upon. My crucial and immortally thus achilles heel.

Aaaaanyway... I have developed the idea over time, in musings removed from striken paranoia, and such ideas as the disabled being the 'masters' or dominant force in our ridiculous reality 'behind the scenes', in a psychic realm, or a dream realm, are very... seductive. Enchanting? Enticing? Which is the right word?

I think it has to do with profound subversion, our understanding of innocence and the capacity for the human eye to hold great mystery and mystique, questions and keys. And self deprecation could well be the metapsychologogogical straw that breaks the camel's (thats us) back. The highest and most extraordinary reaches of humour, yes black and otherwise, helped fuse the notion perhaps.

Grant me a moment I don't want to lose my point here...

I don't know. "I'm just a fucking spastic" I don't know, there was humour in there somewhere, once, sometimes

My humour is rare these days. Like laughing at my fathers delivery on a status report of my grandmother who is developing althzeimer's, today. God help me, in all honesty. I wish I could laugh more freely. Sorry I'm on a tangent now, the worst notion of the moment is that tv show where the kid sold his laugh to a heartless millionaire and the show is about him trying to get it back? Remember that, right?! Thats dark. And did I just dream it? I'm pretty sure I didn't not in the traditional sense.

So back on topic...

The autistic masters, the down syndrome gates of heaven. Seductive and beautiful notions. There but for the grace of god go I.


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Re: autistic poeple are mind controlling everyone. [Re: Jackenobi] * 1
    #7133885 - 07/05/07 06:03 PM (16 years, 6 months ago)

man my brother is autistic and believe it. they can feel the feelings of others. i often find myself able to commmunicate better with him when i actually think about sending the thought behind it to him. because he doesnt communicate orally too too well.

and for the record my brother is not considered very high functioning but he can use google and youtube, and he can work the vrc/tv/dvd remote with more skills then me.

these are people who are by no means stupid just different. ill bet my brother could rain man any of you all with remembering video titles and quotes.

either way psychic powers yes, mind control maybe. he sure can throw one fuck of a fit when he doesnt get his way. but anyone can have psychic powers if they can jsut let go.


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Re: autistic poeple are mind controlling everyone. [Re: rubixcubies]
    #7133912 - 07/05/07 06:08 PM (16 years, 6 months ago)

Can you be slightly autistic, or you are or aren't?


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Re: autistic poeple are mind controlling everyone. [Re: Apollyphelion]
    #7133966 - 07/05/07 06:15 PM (16 years, 6 months ago)

come again?


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Re: autistic poeple are mind controlling everyone. [Re: rubixcubies]
    #7134014 - 07/05/07 06:25 PM (16 years, 6 months ago)

Having Asperger's Syndrome is like being slightly Autistic, I think

Which is what they said I am


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Re: autistic poeple are mind controlling everyone. [Re: The Crow]
    #7134030 - 07/05/07 06:28 PM (16 years, 6 months ago)

Interesting, gonna read up on that now.


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Re: autistic poeple are mind controlling everyone. [Re: Apollyphelion]
    #7134085 - 07/05/07 06:34 PM (16 years, 6 months ago)

they say theres a whole like spectrum of different degrees of it sorta. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Autistic_spectrum


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    #7134210 - 07/05/07 06:57 PM (16 years, 6 months ago)

i find it all quite interesting.

the idiot savant so to speak. maybe interesting in reality, like the potential of your brother, maybe interesting only in concept, unwieldy notions of a 'regular' (if tripping) person.

i read the curious incident of the dog in the night time deliberately during a psychotic break i suffered (such cold reasoning to do so, mad as i may have generally been at the time... actually it was just mad with a fever of it all, not beyond recovery, nor rediscovering my composure) and it contained many parallels i was quick to relate to my circumstances, or feelings, or condition. Then, much contained parallels.

This bears no relation to the idiot savant question, or the impaired master (only impaired to our eyes, to this realm etc...)

For me it is a dark, elusive, and torturously wonderful conception. This dreaming life. When we close our eyes, are they the ones on the other side, experiencing a radiance of bliss? Eternally enlightened beings on the other side of the same wheel? Perhaps we are their less controllable dreams, like the ones we view and experience whilst sleeping in our beds. Does radiance sometimes break across your room as you wake? Is it sustained by simple childish bedroom activity, by which I mean contentment in the scene, whatever way you may occupy yourself further within it? Are we then masters? All these answers and more here at the shroomery but they don't ever last long as profound consciousness, or so it might feel. Here I am confused again.

Like I said, I have a sometime fascination with similar notions. (the down syndrome gates of heaven...)

further to that i'll say something maybe a little controversial. background first: i used to spend friday afternoons as a child at school next door, at a special school. kind of play-learning-teaching with children suffering from down syndrome (by the way my brain just had to take a look at that sentence, enunciating the word 'suffering' in its buddhist connotations to itself). So anyway i spent a lot of time with them as it turned out, the same friday routine over two years.

erm, actually im not going anywhere with this, other than to try and mitigate the fantastical claim forthcoming right about now. spastic good and evil? sorry i shouldnt use that word it isn't kosher anymore. but seriously, a lot of the downs syndrome children you will ever meet will have that sunny radiant happiness about them. like someone on here once said, maybe a true reflection on the innocence of the human soul or spirit. once though, when working at a checkout as a teenager, an elderly parent and his disabled (i'll hold the inverted commas for now) son passed through, and... it was like he was the down syndrome anti-christ. fuck guys i dont feel guilty about much but i do a bit right now. seriously and thats it, just had a look of evil in his eyes and was uttering a terrible moan and staring with dark intent at me and much of that around him. it makes me think of like a one in fifty polarity or something. perhaps its relevant to people who don't suffer the condition. are there are actually genuinely evil people out there, just doing their 'thing'? but its better concealed, in our world of fabrication and personality... a frightening thought maybe, but certainly one that empowers me to empower myself with game.

i am aware this is quite a massive tangent. i feel now reflecting on what i've written, and thinking back to my time at that school that maybe i've experienced an extraordinary mirror of the world of sentient human life at large. not all the kids were sunny and full of light. some were just sort of ok, some seemed a bit unhappy. i guess the bright ones are just more memorable... again, kind of like us. and then that one evil seeming person... i hope he was just a bit poorly.

so what the fuck am i trying to say?

hmm basically i feel most like i am truly flying in moments of unthinking creation. guitar, writing, conversation, impressing someone special and seeing their eyes reflect your brightest feathers... is that a kind of autism? at the guitar the most beautiful stuff sometimes happens when i let go, and im sure some of you can agree. trying to remember it and suddenly... its not so happy anymore, so do autistic people never suffer that pain? so is unthinking creation of absolute beauty the zenith? (probably) So then the mind is no longer in its almost 'autistic' control and its suffering and grasping again, in some thought loop - 'so i pressed that string then i hammered that one but it doesn't sound the same...'

one last thing then

thinking back to the eyes of some of those kids, playing the mirroring drama game with them, when they grab your hands (i remember one guy in particular, he had snot dribbling down his lip!) in their eyes sometimes - nothing but radiance of spirit. the application of their mind to the here and now in wonderous ardency and quite beautiful explicitness of an eternal moment, experienced quite simply (for reason good or ill) by a single human being. i know downs syndrome is very different to autism but these are my thoughts on it and they are relevant.

maybe you all see what im trying to say and how it fits.


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Re: autistic poeple are mind controlling everyone. [Re: Apollyphelion]
    #7134385 - 07/05/07 07:32 PM (16 years, 6 months ago)

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Can you be slightly autistic, or you are or aren't?




My girlfriend works with autistic kids and kids with other neurological disorders. There are different degrees of autism.

It's actually becoming a modern-day epidemic, I don't know the numbers but they're staggering as compared to 20 years ago. Many researchers are on the case, and alternative therapies such as hyperbaric chamber therapy have been showing to help lessen the severity of autism. Innoculations given to babies and their high mercury content are showing to be main causes of it. That's why they tell pregnant women not to eat tuna fish and other high-mercury foods.

Autism is essentially a failure of the body to excrete mercury. We do it normally through hair growth, but autistic people retain it and it connects to their spine, disrupting normal neurological functionality. Seeing a child with a high degree of autism is extremely sad. While "interesting" to see the "idiot sevant" aspect of it, they will never be able to take care of themselves. Unfortunately, you never see how serious this problem is getting on the news because like any other ailment, drug companies are making money off of the medicine. Some of these parents who have "normal" children to say the age of 2, and all of a sudden notice that their children can no longer focus or even have eye contact with them is heart-breakingly sad. It's like the child dies in a way, but they're still living and breathing.


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Re: autistic poeple are mind controlling everyone. [Re: DrCamacho89]
    #7134512 - 07/05/07 08:02 PM (16 years, 6 months ago)

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Autism is essentially a failure of the body to excrete mercury.  We do it normally through hair growth, but autistic people retain it and it connects to their spine, disrupting normal neurological functionality.  Seeing a child with a high degree of autism is extremely sad. While "interesting" to see the "idiot sevant" aspect of it, they will never be able to take care of themselves.  Unfortunately, you never see how serious this problem is getting on the news because like any other ailment, drug companies are making money off of the medicine.  Some of these parents who have "normal" children to say the age of 2, and all of a sudden notice that their children can no longer focus or even have eye contact with them is heart-breakingly sad.  It's like the child dies in a way, but they're still living and breathing.




Man, don't politicise your thoughts against mine like that.

You are coming from a more emotive place and I can respect that, but I have to criticise the sentence in which you disenfranchise part of my post to simply add a rather non-sequiteur ish sentiment into an amalgamated critique.

You express a sadness of the condition well. I am not familiar with it beyond one piece of literature, so consider myself educated in your light.

You weren't direct in your critique of my post and thoughts but I feel it necessary to defend it in the circumstances of your tack and the context of the pub.

I don't know if you read to the end but that comment was rounded into the idea of the thoughtless perceiver, the regular man at his zenith. This would be more appropriate in the P&S or MRP perhaps, but yet stands vindicated in accordance with the original poster's speculation.

I don't mean to fnnarr and i respect your post's orchestration as a more emotionally involved response.

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Re: autistic poeple are mind controlling everyone. [Re: Jackenobi]
    #7134534 - 07/05/07 08:07 PM (16 years, 6 months ago)

I didn't reply to your post.  To be honest, I didn't read all of it.  :shrug:

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Re: autistic poeple are mind controlling everyone. [Re: Jackenobi]
    #7134547 - 07/05/07 08:10 PM (16 years, 6 months ago)

oh and i need to admit that i was mostly stung by my own blase attitude as reflected back at me by my words arranged thusly in speech marks.

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Re: autistic poeple are mind controlling everyone. [Re: Jackenobi]
    #7134586 - 07/05/07 08:22 PM (16 years, 6 months ago)

Firstoff , for people to be able to control other people's minds, they have to be Mind controlled by an alien. This alien-being is about 100 billion light years away in some distant galaxy... See, aliens can communicate and even control minds over vast distances of space. So vast, it's incomprehensable to most human's. and these are the people that alien's target for mind control. Now its the people with the third eye wide open, that aliens cannot penetrate their minds so easily.and that's why we can communicate, but cannot be mind controlled. OH yea, and those autistic kids... Well they're Fucked!


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Re: autistic poeple are mind controlling everyone. [Re: danlennon3]
    #7134603 - 07/05/07 08:27 PM (16 years, 6 months ago)

What the fuck is everybody smoking tonight? Substance D?


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    #7135665 - 07/06/07 12:50 AM (16 years, 6 months ago)

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Re: autistic poeple are mind controlling everyone. [Re: truekimbo2]
    #7811449 - 12/29/07 07:09 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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in my view, poeple with asperger's being more drawn to "cold logical studies" is an example of thier being more in tune with reality (and by extension true human nature). i think the reason the subtlety of human interactions is beyond thier perception is because most of human interaction is a shared, simplified illusion of what reality is supposed to be.

i'm unsure if they're aware of these illusions and choose to ignore them, or are actually unaware of them. i tend to think the former, but for my theory either would work.

edit: i have no evidence, this is just a theory based on observation. if you're interested in my theory, watch autistics very closely and look into thier eyes and if see if there is anything to discover.




I agree, I don't know how to put it into better words right now, I'm too tired to

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edit: i encourage you to watch autistic poeple closely and look them square in the eyes and hopefully you'll see what i'm talking about.




Kay, as first hand experience being asperger, I can say you'll have a hard time meeting face to face with an autistic. It's very uncomfortable to do it for prolonged periods of time.

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Re: autistic people are mind controlling everyone. [Re: truekimbo2]
    #7811483 - 12/29/07 07:22 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

tis probley true.

i think im autistic in some strange way.  not sure how though but ill explain why i think this...

when i was younger, in 1st through 3rd grade, i had to go to "special classes" BUT i didn't struggle with my school work, in fact, school has always been extremely easy for me.  the other kids in this "special class" had problems with their school work.

in 4th grade, my school teacher had me stand up in class and basically told everyone that i am different and that i "take things in"/"learn differently" than everyone else.

i've always known deep down inside that i am different in some way, i cant really put my finger on it, but i do feel that i find out a little more each day.

and yes, at times i REALLY do think that i have control over people in some strange way.  i've always noticed this.  strange you made this post.  a few days ago i was going to make a post titled "am i retarded?" and tell everyone about the "special classes" and how my teacher had me stand up in front of the class.  very strange indeed...maybe i somehow made you make it.  :wink:


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Re: autistic poeple are mind controlling everyone. [Re: truekimbo2]
    #8305110 - 04/19/08 04:43 PM (15 years, 9 months ago)

Linear time is an illusion. I have worked with autistic people as a glorified baby-sitter for adult autistics. My experience is that they don't mind control but don't like human contact and being around people in general and loud noises are extreemly irratating to them. I have some autistic qualities myself and a lot of your post of this theory explains a lot of what my life is like and how it effects people has far more truth to it then a psychologist could ever come up with.


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Re: autistic poeple are mind controlling everyone. [Re: rubixcubies]
    #8305284 - 04/19/08 05:41 PM (15 years, 9 months ago)

Referring to the original post, babies have many more neural pathways in their brains than adults do, and as you grow older, the pathways that aren't stimulated get cut off. An autistic kid with not as much interaction with people and culture would probably not develop the same as a normal child, and their minds would probably be predominated by more basic abilities. Just a thought?


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Re: autistic poeple are mind controlling everyone. [Re: AgingHippy]
    #8305360 - 04/19/08 06:07 PM (15 years, 9 months ago)

Anyone remember Stretch Armstrong?


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Re: autistic poeple are mind controlling everyone. [Re: AgingHippy]
    #8305643 - 04/19/08 07:19 PM (15 years, 9 months ago)

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Referring to the original post, babies have many more neural pathways in their brains than adults do, and as you grow older, the pathways that aren't stimulated get cut off. An autistic kid with not as much interaction with people and culture would probably not develop the same as a normal child, and their minds would probably be predominated by more basic abilities. Just a thought?




yeah, i don't know if they actually have the ability to like send out mental waves or whatever. i think one theory i had was they were just "realer" than us because they weren't stuck in the imagination, and the "realer" the subconscious message you give someone, the more powerful the suggestive ability of the message...

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Re: autistic poeple are mind controlling everyone. [Re: truekimbo2]
    #8306015 - 04/19/08 08:57 PM (15 years, 9 months ago)

so all in all its safe to say with all the technology and culture autistics will always be more prone to emotion and body language is what I'm gettin at tho ihave to say after shroomn a bunch I seemd to have less bounds in my own body language whether its terets or jus plain reactin to conversation on thing is for sure that I'm not as stone faced as I once was...


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Re: autistic poeple are mind controlling everyone. [Re: supercollider]
    #9258242 - 11/17/08 01:45 AM (15 years, 2 months ago)

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Huh? Evidence? Evidence?

I have Asperger Syndrome, which is a condition related to autism but a lot less debilitating. And hey, if I have latent mind-control abilities then dammit, I want to know about it!

Frankly, I think you're completely wrong about autistics being "more in tune with pure human nature." Seems to me autistics are less in tune with human nature. The subtlety of most human interactions is beyond their perception, thus they prefer to deal with cold logical studies.




Many people with Aspergers have changed the world, being less than one percent of the population, they are the biggest minority, and the most influential.

Thomas Jefferson had Aspergers, but he is one of this countries most well known people, and one of the most influential to our way of life.

Aspergers is a very subtle, strange form of usually more pervasive autism, people are looked at as like a mutant, like one of the fantastic four, or the x-men,

no person with Aspergers does not have above average intelligence or an interesting way of viewing stuff. It is usually not super apparent that they are not neurotypical.

like i said, like a mutant, like an x men, its like "you want to be like us.... but look at you!"

like havin' superpowers, but even superman has to go to his fortress of solitude and be from another planet.


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Re: autistic poeple are mind controlling everyone. [Re: Apollyphelion]
    #9258275 - 11/17/08 01:55 AM (15 years, 2 months ago)

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Can you be slightly autistic, or you are or aren't?




It's a spectrum..  you know, autistic people are probably more evolved humans, the next wave, and we don't even know it yet. We'll know by the increasing number of austistic to "normal" people.


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Re: autistic poeple are mind controlling everyone. [Re: truekimbo2]
    #13865755 - 01/28/11 12:40 PM (13 years, 3 days ago)

Autistic mind control? :lolsy:


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Re: autistic poeple are mind controlling everyone. [Re: truekimbo2]
    #15124100 - 09/23/11 05:58 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

I know what you're saying. I wouldn't say they control minds, but they can relate to people on such a direct level they know what to do to guide other people's thought processes through methodical, strategic actions or suggestions.


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Re: autistic poeple are mind controlling everyone. [Re: yabbahabba]
    #15124123 - 09/23/11 06:05 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

Wow, you just resurrected a more than 5 year old post with the last response being almost 3 years ago.

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Re: autistic poeple are mind controlling everyone. [Re: WakeboardrB]
    #15124349 - 09/23/11 06:56 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

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Wow, you just resurrected a more than 5 year old post with the last response being almost 3 years ago.

Congrats :billymaythumbup:





Actually, this thread was resurrected 7 months and 21 days ago by Bodhi of Ankou. It was the post prior to his, that was nearly three years old.

But hey... at least he had something to contribute. :tongue: :wink:

And while we're vaguely off topic, how the fuck did this thread not end up getting moved to conspiracy, or something...? :lol:


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Re: autistic poeple are mind controlling everyone. [Re: WakeboardrB]
    #15124430 - 09/23/11 07:12 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

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Wow, you just resurrected a more than 5 year old post with the last response being almost 3 years ago.

Congrats :billymaythumbup:




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Re: autistic poeple are mind controlling everyone. [Re: CidneyIndole]
    #15124441 - 09/23/11 07:13 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

I don't see the name and he's not on my ignore list.

Last post I see before today is from Brugman and it was 2 years and 10 months ago.


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Re: autistic poeple are mind controlling everyone. [Re: WakeboardrB]
    #15124495 - 09/23/11 07:21 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

Get your priorities straight.


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    #15124508 - 09/23/11 07:22 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

I have no priorities.


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Re: autistic poeple are mind controlling everyone. [Re: WakeboardrB]
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Well you should.


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Re: autistic poeple are mind controlling everyone. [Re: Devlish2]
    #15124536 - 09/23/11 07:28 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

Why don't you tell me what priorities I should have.

Please do.


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Re: autistic poeple are mind controlling everyone. [Re: WakeboardrB]
    #15124539 - 09/23/11 07:29 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

To know that, I would need to get into your head and sadly, I am not autistic.


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Re: autistic poeple are mind controlling everyone. [Re: Bodhi of Ankou]
    #15125337 - 09/23/11 10:43 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

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I don't see the name and he's not on my ignore list.

Last post I see before today is from Brugman and it was 2 years and 10 months ago.





That's pretty weird.

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Autistic mind control? :lolsy:




Can you read that quote?  :lol: ...cause that's the post...


Could it be possible that you set him to ignore, and then he changed his screen name--so you end up "ignoring" the post, but the name I mentioned doesn't appear on the list? Wonder how a situation like that works...


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Re: autistic poeple are mind controlling everyone. [Re: CidneyIndole]
    #15576620 - 12/27/11 02:28 AM (12 years, 1 month ago)

ive had the same thoughts as the OP in this thread.


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    #15576739 - 12/27/11 03:23 AM (12 years, 1 month ago)

Well I'm glad this was bumped. :smile:

Read the whole thread and found it very interesting. I feel like I've got aspergers, many others who know me will agree.

Just a thought I'd continue on after reading through this thread:
Downs Syndrome - Pure soul.
Autism - true view of the world.
Aspergers - "functioning" true viewers.
Bipolar disoder - Wildcard.
Normal people - playing along in the whole game without even knowing.

To me, it seems like the Normal People in the world are basically mirrors of personality/information, constantly bouncing off thoughts from one another. They've got this ability to make connections with one another and in a way channel their ideas by any means of communication. Put every Normal Person in the world on a planet interacting continuously with each other and societies are created among those who bounce the same ideas.

Throw people with Bipolar disorder into the mix and you get a wildcard each time. When these people go through an "attack" they bring new reactions to societies table, they do things people normally wouldn't. The Normal People observe this and unintentionally take something away from their experience with the wild card.

People who are autistic to high degrees are sort of in trouble when it comes to playing the game of life. To me, they don't seem like they can interact in any way worth anything to them or the interactee. I think their view of the world is so true that they literally don't know what to do with themselves. They can't integrate among the Normal People and put what they realize about reality to use.

Aspergers, which I feel I have, feels like a little bit of autism mixed in with sort of figuring out it is just a game that all the Normal People are playing. This group hangs on to society by a few connections they've been able to make, and these are in no way social connections. I feel like these are the true artists. One's who are able to take the natural beauty that the universe provides and translate this into something recognizable by the Normal People. Though they aren't directly communicating with Normal People, the Normal People pick up on the beauty and recognize it as something they like, and they take it among the rest of the Normal People to put into their mixing pot of interaction, and over time the Asperger's ideas get integrated into society.



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Re: autistic poeple are mind controlling everyone. [Re: The Phleg]
    #15576757 - 12/27/11 03:39 AM (12 years, 1 month ago)

Who about shizos? Man, schizos never get any credit. But they are the ones that talk to the rain maker


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    #15576760 - 12/27/11 03:42 AM (12 years, 1 month ago)

Schizos arent mind controlling anyone, they are the mindcontrolled.


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    #15576762 - 12/27/11 03:43 AM (12 years, 1 month ago)

:awelol: Ah, the schizos. Whoops. :shrug: Haven't given them as much thought.


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Re: autistic poeple are mind controlling everyone. [Re: Shroomism]
    #15576763 - 12/27/11 03:44 AM (12 years, 1 month ago)

autistics lack filters on the material world and exist in a material SUPER STATE

Schizos are kind of on the opposite end of the super hero spectrum, in direct communication with the collective unconscious and ghosts


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Re: autistic poeple are mind controlling everyone. [Re: teamkiller]
    #15576765 - 12/27/11 03:46 AM (12 years, 1 month ago)

Yes....schizos are receptive to channels we cannot normally unlock. Being mildly schizo (schizotypical, schizoaffective, bipolar) can give us some access to this as does the temporary schizophrenia induced by certain drugs in people with latent traits.

These same drugs or similar drugs may bring out latent autism in people as does it exist normally in people with mild forms of autism (aspergers, adhd, add, etc)


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Re: autistic poeple are mind controlling everyone. [Re: truekimbo2]
    #15576766 - 12/27/11 03:47 AM (12 years, 1 month ago)

What about the muses?



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Re: autistic poeple are mind controlling everyone. [Re: thecake]
    #15579034 - 12/27/11 04:20 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

These people might be gifted in certain areas cause of their way the brain is wired, but apart from there area of specialty there disabled in almost everything else. Superhero spectrum???... My fuckin god.


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Re: autistic poeple are mind controlling everyone. [Re: Bodhi of Ankou]
    #15579064 - 12/27/11 04:24 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

LOL HAHAHAHAHA

What a load I tell ya hwhat


I take care of an autistic guy and I have taken care of several.

The current one just slouches around the house drooling, moaning, and trying to grab your wrist so he can take you to the van and try to get you to take him on a ride.

The only two things he can do in his life are puzzles (like squares and triangles into a board) and take van rides.

I guess he does try to control me though when he grabs my wrist. He tries......


Hell, he doesnt even eat or drink. He gets everything through a tube in his belly and nothing enters his mouth ever.


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