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ShroomFan said: FUCK TIME
its a theory just like gravity
you cannot prove time exists
just the concept of such
OK how about we both go up on a big tall building. You can jump off the building and I'll prove to you that gravity exists
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ShroomFan said: FUCK TIME
its a theory just like gravity
you cannot prove time exists
just the concept of such
Yeah, just like you cannot prove movement, right? 
Sometimes it helps to actually think about things...
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Re: time [Re: JCoke]
#5965773 - 08/15/06 11:14 AM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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cute thread
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ShroomFan said: FUCK TIME
its a theory just like gravity
you cannot prove time exists
just the concept of such
This is just another theory... see the contradiction?
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Re: time [Re: JCoke]
#5965846 - 08/15/06 11:40 AM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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The earth is an ellipsoid [thanks seuss] and spins and orbits around the sun. The earth will rotate approximately 1/24th of it's daily spin in approximately 1 hour. It will complete a full spin after approximately 24 hours. It takes approximately 365 days for the earth to orbit around the sun, or approximately 12 months coinciding with the 12 full moons we see every year.
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Re: time [Re: Cherk]
#5965911 - 08/15/06 11:59 AM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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> The earth is a sphere
Incorrect. The earth is an ellipsoid.
> The earth will rotate 1/24th of it's daily spin in 1 hour. It will complete a full spin after 24 hours.
Again, incorrect. The current corrrect answer is 23 hours 56 minutes and 04.09053 seconds, not 24 hours (Source: NASA). The rotational velocity of the earth is slowing down, therefore my answer will eventually be incorrect as well.
By the transitive property, the rest of your "times" are off as well.
Oh, and to be complete, I should state that my observations are made at rest with reference to the earth itself. It is difficult to speak about time without a relative reference.
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Re: time [Re: Cherk]
#5965912 - 08/15/06 11:59 AM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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How we percieve and measure time dictates how our consicousness works. The western judeo-christian world measures time by physical motion of the earth around the sun. thus we have our Gregorian Calendar and our decidedly more hectic lifestyle of constantly racing against the clock.
Keep in mind that this calendar system has been imposed on every culture across the planet whether they liked it or not.
The Mayans had a 260 day calendar, among others, that is not based on any physical motions. So what were they measuring? Interesting stuff to ponder...
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Re: time [Re: Clean]
#5965956 - 08/15/06 12:11 PM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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Clean said: How we percieve and measure time dictates how our consicousness works. The western judeo-christian world measures time by physical motion of the earth around the sun. thus we have our Gregorian Calendar and our decidedly more hectic lifestyle of constantly racing against the clock.
Keep in mind that this calendar system has been imposed on every culture across the planet whether they liked it or not.
The Mayans had a 260 day calendar, among others, that is not based on any physical motions. So what were they measuring? Interesting stuff to ponder...
I'd guess the time it takes to carry a pregnancy to full term. 
Do you really think which celestial body or lack there of a calendar is in synch with determines the life style of that particular society? And if so to what extent? My point in the rough is: cows need to be milked once a day no matter what calendar the farmer uses.
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fireworks_god said:
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ShroomFan said: FUCK TIME
its a theory just like gravity
you cannot prove time exists
just the concept of such
Yeah, just like you cannot prove movement, right? 
Sometimes it helps to actually think about things...
 Peace.
It does help to think about things so heed your own advice and realize that you cannot prove the theory of gravity..i am not saying anything but that Daniel Son
I hope being a smartass is working out nicely for you ..you should try being clever it might be an upgrade
I have not stated any theories in actuality TIME is like a measuring cup for movement, nothing more. If there was no "TIME" clocks, etc. The trees would still change leaves and night would still turn to day and so on and so forth.
Every word we say and have in our world is a label to help us understand and cope with that which surrounds us. If I knew no chair or computer life might be like ultimate ego loss.
Similar to the way I observe young children without an understanding of this society and its workings, so free..
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Re: time [Re: Cherk]
#5966072 - 08/15/06 12:53 PM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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I'm not saying that the particular celestial body has any effect on consciousness.
It's all internal, within us. It's our choice. We decided to go along with the gregorian solar calendar because it was either that or face execution by the churches and kings.
The fact that so many different calendars exist shows that there is not one correct way to measure time.
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cows need to be milked once a day no matter what calendar the farmer uses.
I see your point with that statement.
What I'm saying is that it's all about how we chose to conduct our ritual of time keeping...what is the state of our consciousness when we look at time.
We're always told that the sun will eventually burn out. That means our western concept of time will come to an end. We're never given an ultimate re-birth scenerio. Only death.
So we can either look at it as a long countdown to oblivion, or we can be aware of the cycles of Creation which include death and rebirth, such as the Mayans and others did.
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Re: time [Re: Clean]
#5967131 - 08/15/06 06:42 PM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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IMO Time is an illusion. Yeah you can watch a clock tick away and observe how things change relative to calculated intervals of that clock's cycle. But all that's happening is that things are changing and rearranging. Protons are still protons, netrons are still neutrons, electrons are still electrons. Nothing has even changed, it has just rearranged. Cliche but true.
Some say that time started after the Big Bang or whatever. Where the fuck did all that energy/mass come from? It had to have been there before it Big Banged.
Time is just a figment of our imagination. It doesn't exist outside of our perception of it. Many things are an illusion. They serve an important purpose for our lives, surviving would be difficult without them. If I didn't know winter was coming in a few months I could die and that wouldn't do me any good as a reproducing organism.
But the only real time is NOW.
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Re: time [Re: Seuss]
#5967477 - 08/15/06 08:22 PM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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Seuss said:
By the transitive property, the rest of your "times" are off as well.
"Times" mmyes, if he could even call them that! MMnyah nyah nyah nyah! Oh how it ruffles my underleggings! To fathom that someone in this day and age would use anything less than 5 decimal places to describe the number of hours in a day is quite frankly repulsive mmyes!
lame.
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Scientifically, to measure time it needs rhythms. These rhythms are relative to something, so one can ask if we measure time or if we measure the relative rhythm of something. It is the same.
Time in a philosophical context reaches into the spiritual realm, because neither the past or the future is actually present in our life. They never are actually present ! The past is only present in an representation of it, for us to learn. The future is only present in the possibilities for it in the now, for us to choose. But every act we do, we can not do in the future or in the past, we have to do it in the now, bringing metaphysical or spiritual philosophies of future and past together in the physical realm of reality.
At least, that is how I see it.
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