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    #5952235 - 08/10/06 10:21 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

lets define time.

one moment to the next in a continous stream, where did it come from?

I can picture evolution working, but not without time, time before the big bang, time came first, is the world outside of time?

I once heard "time is an illusion.", what does that mean?


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Re: time [Re: JCoke]
    #5952265 - 08/10/06 10:28 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

Time is the variable that must be ignored in order for science to work properly.


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Re: time [Re: JCoke]
    #5952290 - 08/10/06 10:34 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

Time is a human constuct, designed to help us better measure our unavoidable decay :wink:

When we perceive things relatively, then there seems to be a past, present, and future. But when we really look into the heart of things, at [absolute] Truth, there is no such thing as the past, no such thing as the future, and no such thing as the present.


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Re: time [Re: Fractalated]
    #5952311 - 08/10/06 10:39 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

Quote:

Fractalated said:
Time is a human constuct, designed to help us better measure our unavoidable decay :wink:

When we perceive things relatively, then there seems to be a past, present, and future. But when we really look into the heart of things, at [absolute] Truth, there is no such thing as the past, no such thing as the future, and no such thing as the present.




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Re: time [Re: SneezingPenis]
    #5952336 - 08/10/06 10:44 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

time doesn't exist other than observable measured rate of change between two or more reference points,

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Re: time [Re: capliberty]
    #5952353 - 08/10/06 10:49 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

Time doesn't exist as much as space doesn't exist when it is not being experienced.


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Re: time [Re: AlteredAgain]
    #5953506 - 08/11/06 11:08 AM (17 years, 5 months ago)

To say that time or the universe does not exist outside of an experience or observation of it leads to the assumption that at 1 second after the bang there was an observer or experiencer. Who was this?

unless particles are "experiencing" each other thorough discreet or indiscreet forces you are saying there is a god. If particles are able to collapse the initial wave function of whether or not the universe continues to expand or not then time must exist outside of experience.

time must exist prior to any experience. Does time exist prior to the initial question of either 1 the universe exists or 2 the universe does not exist? Or does time start at the moment the answer was 1 exists?


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Re: time [Re: JCoke]
    #5954185 - 08/11/06 03:36 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

Time is putting one/a factor in succession!


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Re: time [Re: Gomp]
    #5955032 - 08/11/06 09:09 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

time wont give me TIME.and,time makes lovers feel like they got something real.
but,you and me.....we know we aint got nothing but TIME
so,put your head on my shoulder and cry me like a river of tears

and also........
TIME is a river without banks


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Re: time [Re: Gomp]
    #5961739 - 08/14/06 03:27 AM (17 years, 5 months ago)

Quote:

Gomp said:
Time is putting one/a factor in succession!



What is the 'other' factor ?
Being ?


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Re: time [Re: BlueCoyote]
    #5961798 - 08/14/06 04:07 AM (17 years, 5 months ago)

'Other' factor?


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Re: time [Re: JCoke]
    #5961971 - 08/14/06 07:33 AM (17 years, 5 months ago)

HOLD THE PHONE
keep holding it

I would like to say we imagine time too. Like it's not real somehow or something. But there HAS to be some thing that is 100% real about time outside of human observation. Otherwise how could the twins paradox work? linklinklinklinklinklinklinklinklinklink

link goes to short ekxplaunaishon of twins paradox (and then a long "eggs 'plan a' shun" of something i didnt read.
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Re: time [Re: Fractalated]
    #5962166 - 08/14/06 09:51 AM (17 years, 5 months ago)

Quote:

Fractalated said:
Time is a human constuct, designed to help us better measure our unavoidable decay :wink:

When we perceive things relatively, then there seems to be a past, present, and future. But when we really look into the heart of things, at [absolute] Truth, there is no such thing as the past, no such thing as the future, and no such thing as the present.




Actually I think it's the other way around....

There is a "past" and a "future"....just as there is a "behind me" and "in front of me". Time is a dimension like any other...it is only our perception of Time that is different from the other dimensions (the ones that we can perceive at all, anyway).

I can only exist in one physical location in any given "moment" or "now"....but just because I can only be in one location doesn't mean the other locations don't exist. I just can't perceive them because I'm not "there". Time is the same - just because I am "here" in the temporal dimension, doesn't mean the other places don't exist...just that I can't perceive them.


I think the confusion comes from our inability to directly and easily affect our position in Time. Whereas I can move freely through the first 3 dimensions, the 4th dimension - Time - does not allow this freedom of movement. I am "stuck" traveling in one general direction, in generally the same speed, through Time.

But just because I am stuck in this moment...doesn't mean all the other moments don't exist :wink:


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Re: time [Re: trendal]
    #5962197 - 08/14/06 10:03 AM (17 years, 5 months ago)

Time is the diffrance bewine 0 and 1


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Re: time [Re: Simisu]
    #5963434 - 08/14/06 05:13 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

Will there be a time, when time seizes to exist?


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Re: time [Re: trendal]
    #5963955 - 08/14/06 08:04 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

Only the moment gives perception to your will. It's the time to act, to live and to love.

gomp:"time is putting a factor in succession"
succession on what ?


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Edited by BlueCoyote (08/14/06 08:12 PM)


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Re: time [Re: JCoke]
    #5963965 - 08/14/06 08:07 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

time is the filling in a big bang/enlightenment sandwich


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Re: time [Re: Scratcher]
    #5964325 - 08/14/06 09:49 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

FUCK TIME

its a theory just like gravity

you cannot prove time exists

just the concept of such


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Re: time [Re: ShroomFan]
    #5965003 - 08/15/06 01:02 AM (17 years, 5 months ago)

i see nothing wrong with time itself, that is the natural unmeasured flow of peaks and valleys. the ebb and flow, the up and down, the light and dark, the life and death. natural time is beautiful.

artifically crafted time, the clock, on the other hand, is something i always look at with criticism. its mechanical, rigid, it always stays the same, it starts all over again every day, its boring, it puts us in line, restrains us, hurries us, worries us, it's ugly.

don't fuck time.
fuck the nine to five.

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Re: time [Re: BlueCoyote]
    #5965276 - 08/15/06 05:43 AM (17 years, 5 months ago)

Quote:

BlueCoyote said:
Only the moment gives perception to your will. It's the time to act, to live and to love.

gomp:"time is putting a factor in succession"
Q:succession on what ?




"Time is putting one/a factor in succession!"

A:A factor..


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