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Reiki...or just a crappy massage?
    #5951018 - 08/10/06 04:22 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

Not to get into the weirdness of the synchronicity of this whole thing but...

At a local restaurant, I met a Woman last Thursday who was visiting Texas from Mexico City to take a Teaching test at a local high School. She didn't have a full grasp of the English language and I could tell that she was in a bit of trouble. I offered her a ride and she invited me up to her Hotel room. I declined, but she called the next day and I figured why not.

It turns out that she is a Psychologist in Mexico and we had a great number of interests in common. We talked for hours that night and she told me that her best friend was a Reiki master and had taken some classes with her...

The next night she called pretty late and was at a pay phone had been waiting for a cab for 30 minutes. I offered to pick her up and take her back to her room. She asked me to come up again, but I was tired and kind of irritated and didn't want to. After numerous requests and the promise of a message, I agreed.

Her massage wasn't like a Swedish massage, but, well I don't know what it was like. She had asked me questions about my zodiac sign and various other things the night before and began to tell me about the "energy" in various parts of my body.

I was trying to relax and since I've been working on the various energies that arise in me lately, I was trying to dispel/disperse/cope with the negativity I was feeling with the whole affair and use it as a learning experience.

Then she moved to my stomach and really started kneading it. Like taking her fingers and pushing with a lot of pressure and grabbing my guts in her hands. This turned up the negativity, but I figured whenever you do something productive in your life, the first steps usually suck. Plus it hurt! I could feel all sorts of liquids and gasses being forced around in my innards and even hear them.

She stopped after about 10 or 15 minutes and I was lying there trying to collect all my emotions and I was just feeling really pissed off for no very good reason in particular. I told her this and that I was going to leave. She stopped me and wanted to talk about it. I told her how I was feeling and she said that she had been experimenting with Reiki on me. Well, I got really pissed off then and told her how it seemed irresponsible to me for someone to mess with someone's energy if they didn't know how to handle what came up.

She emailed me today from Mexico and told me that she had talked to her Reiki master friend and the master had told her that she had opened up my chakras and that's why I felt so pissed off.

I did some research and found that in Reiki a person barely gets touched, if at all. I'm starting to think bullshit on her explanation...

Anyone know anything about any of this and why I could have felt the feelings I did beside the fact that it hurt and she was generally a pain...


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Re: Reiki...or just a crappy massage? [Re: VirgilKane]
    #5951293 - 08/10/06 05:35 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

Well I'm taking reiki classes and got to level IV and never heard of this kind of massage. The explanation for liquids moving through your stomach and guts is very simple since you said she really pushed her fingers into you, so it was more life a physical reaction and not an energetic one, of course some energy exchange took place too, but if you felt it as being bad, it probably was bad.
With reiki you can send energy even from long distances, like from one part of the world to another, so no touch is necessary, especially one that hurts.
I've been taking and giving reiki massages but none of them was the way you described this one. Generally the touches are very gentle or kind of ferm but not hurting and feel very relaxing and reinvigorating.
I think she was bullshitting you and more then that, it is possible that she could even messed up with your chakras and your energetic level. That kind of massage sounds to me more like an energy hacking then energy transfer.
I think you should go to a real and accredited reiki practicer or a radiestezyst and asck to preform on you first an energy measurement and then if there's something wrong you should ask for some energy equiliby sessions.
What happened to you really sucks and you shouldn't allow anybody to make these kind of "tests" with you since they an really fuck you up. And always trust your instincts, if something feels bad, chances are that it really is, if not, anyways the way you perceive it
turns it into something bad or just never helps.
What you can also do is start taking some reiki classes, you're not obliged to go up to the master level, but one or two grades could really help you protect yourself from energy attacks and do some good thing for yourself in the energetic field.
Some people are very fucked up and this woman sounds like being one them. Well lol anyways, we learn stuff from this shit and at least now you know better how to avoid them. And learn to say NO if you feel somethings not right.


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Re: Reiki...or just a crappy massage? [Re: MushroomTrip]
    #5951427 - 08/10/06 06:06 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

i had a deep tissue.

there was some sort of mind link going on, and i thought to her at the end "i'd rather just have my congestion fixed" as opposed to getting a foot massage.

she goes and places her hand on my solar plexus.

for a while i am just lying there and i start to really realize, that yes her hand is on my solar plexus, and it's a personal and close feeling.

and then i start wondering, is she doing reiki on me? Well..... i start to feel some energy bubble up in that area and it's such a happy energy....... it's kind of stifled a bit like something is holding it back though.

then she does the throat, and the heart, and i don't feel those but i sure felt the plexus.

reiki is real.... it can be incorporated into massage....

it was an absolutely wonderful session and i felt very zenned out and placid for a while afterwards, but had a hard time coping with all the noise and distractions of the outside world, feeling like they wanted to take my happiness away.

but reiki is just laying hands on an area. massaging however also stimulates energy.

if you have problems with anger it's an issue of the solar plexus, which is in your stomach/gut region. just a bit above the navel.


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Re: Reiki...or just a crappy massage? [Re: leery11]
    #5951438 - 08/10/06 06:10 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

so you mean you didnt FUCK HER


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Re: Reiki...or just a crappy massage? [Re: ShroomFan]
    #5951462 - 08/10/06 06:15 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

fucking at every chance is kind of like becoming fat because you eat everything in sight.


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Re: Reiki...or just a crappy massage? [Re: MushroomTrip]
    #5951887 - 08/10/06 08:09 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

Exactly!  I kept thinking about Psychic Vampires while she was doing it, but put it down as paranoia.  I didn't really know that she was experimenting until after I got up to leave and she told me.  I wish you could have seen her eyes as I reamed her out after finding this out!

I've giving a massage to a reiki instructor before for her birthday and it lasted an hour and afterwards I felt like I had the Flu.  She sucked it out of me and didn't do anything to help me recover.

She was a Pagan if that makes any difference.... :confused:

Thanks for the heads up on follow-up treatment! :thumbup:

I pretty much feel back to normal now though.  Maybe that's a bad thing! :smirk:


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Re: Reiki...or just a crappy massage? [Re: leery11]
    #5951908 - 08/10/06 08:16 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

Yes, she kinda rubbed around my face also...

After I told her how I thought what she did was very irresponsible, I felt nothing. Absolutely no emotions whatsoever...

I don't "feel" that I have a problem with anger. I've been getting into meditation lately and have felt quite calm with no negative self-talk. But it was my stomach that she went into. Maybe I've just been pushing it deep inside to cover it up or maybe it's from back when I did have anger issues and they've been stored there for a while...


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"Religion is a defense against a religious experience"
              Carl G. Jung

 
"So really, ordinary reality is a kind of chemical habit, sanctioned by culture, which says it's okay to use certain drugs, eat certain foods, and have certain sexual behaviors. However, when you transcend all this pre-conditioning by returning to the original wisdom of the animal body, then you discover this immense dimension of opportunity. For some people, it is a frightening risk. To me, that's the psychedelic experience."
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Re: Reiki...or just a crappy massage? [Re: ShroomFan]
    #5951927 - 08/10/06 08:24 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

Well, that's what I was fighting with the first night she asked me up because that has been my nature in the past for sure. I fought with it all the next day too so when she called I said "What the Hell".

It just turned a little too weird and I wasn't very attracted to her so I took it as an opportunity to overcome my past instints/compulsions to jump on a chance like that and see how it felt. My instincts were right. She's pretty crazy, but OK to have as an acqauintance without any of the "strings" that complicate shit so much...


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"So really, ordinary reality is a kind of chemical habit, sanctioned by culture, which says it's okay to use certain drugs, eat certain foods, and have certain sexual behaviors. However, when you transcend all this pre-conditioning by returning to the original wisdom of the animal body, then you discover this immense dimension of opportunity. For some people, it is a frightening risk. To me, that's the psychedelic experience."
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Re: Reiki...or just a crappy massage? [Re: leery11]
    #5951935 - 08/10/06 08:29 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

Quote:

leery11 said:
fucking at every chance is kind of like becoming fat because you eat everything in sight.




With the same sorts of repercussions...if not worse. :tongue:

I've done my share of "sport Screwing" and it never gave me what I was ultimately looking for.  In fact the emptiness of it pointed out what I needed.

Only took 20 years to learn that little lesson!

It had it's moments, but I coulda messed up really bad doing that shit...


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"So really, ordinary reality is a kind of chemical habit, sanctioned by culture, which says it's okay to use certain drugs, eat certain foods, and have certain sexual behaviors. However, when you transcend all this pre-conditioning by returning to the original wisdom of the animal body, then you discover this immense dimension of opportunity. For some people, it is a frightening risk. To me, that's the psychedelic experience."
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Re: Reiki...or just a crappy massage? [Re: VirgilKane]
    #5952307 - 08/10/06 10:38 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

crazy story. certainly wasn't no normal reiki.


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Re: Reiki...or just a crappy massage? [Re: truekimbo2]
    #5953202 - 08/11/06 07:49 AM (17 years, 5 months ago)

i practise reiki, and that.. was not reiki


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Re: Reiki...or just a crappy massage? [Re: psyche_sailor]
    #5953804 - 08/11/06 01:02 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

ok maybe not fucking but hey ...

a PC massage on ur dick


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