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20 Arrested in London
    #5949463 - 08/10/06 12:39 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

Quick... before their names are made public, let's run a pool on how many of these thwarted 'splodeydopes have a "Mohammed" or "Mahmoud" as one of their names. I'll guess nine.

http://news.sky.com/skynews/article/0,,30000-1230417,00.html

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Plane Terror Plot Thwarted
Updated: 07:22, Thursday August 10, 2006

Police say they have disrupted a major plot to blow up a dozen planes over UK and US cities with explosive devices smuggled aboard as hand luggage.

Police are have arrested 20 people in London - the culmination of a covert counter-terrorist operation lasting several months.

Passengers trying to board international flights from the UK are not being allowed to carry on normal hand luggage.

Sky News' Crime Correspondent Martin Brunt said there were concerns that certain explosives could evade x-ray screening of hand luggage.

Brunt said the threat was thought to be imminent and those arrested were mainly young, British-born Asian men. (***note to American readers*** in the UK it is common to refer to Pakistanis and Indians as "Asian" -- Phred)

He said the alleged plan involved people boarding flights and detonating explosives on planes over UK and US cities.

The Home Secretary John Reid said the alleged plot was a "major threat" to bring down a number of planes.

The Home Office's level of security - indicating public risk - has been raised from 'severe' to 'critical'.

The swoop followed a pre-planned intelligence led operation by the Met's anti-terrorist branch and security service.

A police statement said: "This is a major operation which inevitably will be lengthy and complex. We will provide further information as soon as possible."

Lengthy queues at airports have been reported and a Transport Department spokesman said delays were inevitable.

"Passengers are being asked to allow themselves plenty of extra time and to ensure that other than the few permitted items, all their belongings are placed in their hold baggage and checked in.

"These additional security measures will make travel more difficult for passengers, particularly at such a busy time of the year.




You can bet your bottom dollar that at some point in their investiation the UK authorities violated some civil liberties. Let's all send outraged letters of protest to the British Home Office to teach them a lesson.




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Re: 20 Arrested in London [Re: Phred]
    #5949468 - 08/10/06 12:42 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

I dont understand how people get caught doing this stuff...

This is strictly hypothetical, but I work at an airport, and I can think of 10 ways I could bring down a plane. Numerous planes...

People have to be seriously incompetent. Maybe its the racial factor working against them.

Again, I'm not condoning terrorism. Blowing up planes is wrong. I'm just saying, terrorism doesnt seem to be very hard to do. But people screw it up all the time....


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Re: 20 Arrested in London [Re: Madtowntripper]
    #5949483 - 08/10/06 12:47 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

Like I said, they probably got caught because their civil liberties were violated. Phone taps, interception of e-mails, bugs placed in strategic locations, racial profiling, infiltration of mosques... maybe all that and more. Too bad the ACLU doesn't operate in the UK. This case cries out for ACLU involvement.




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Re: 20 Arrested in London [Re: Phred]
    #5949497 - 08/10/06 12:57 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

I'm not biting...

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Re: 20 Arrested in London [Re: Madtowntripper]
    #5949521 - 08/10/06 01:04 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

Okay... while this story is still in its early stages, let's have another pool on how long it takes the UK authorities to warn about a "backlash" caused by "Islamophobia" and detail groups of bobbies to protect London mosques from rampaging Brits.

I'll say four hours from the time of this post. Anyone else have a guess?




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Re: 20 Arrested in London [Re: Phred]
    #5949547 - 08/10/06 01:16 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

I love how you put "Islamophobia" in quotes, but say "Islamo-Facism" all the time like its a real thing.


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Re: 20 Arrested in London [Re: Madtowntripper]
    #5949561 - 08/10/06 01:22 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

I say that all the time? You have me confused with someone else. I haven't used that term in years.



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Re: 20 Arrested in London [Re: Phred]
    #5949577 - 08/10/06 01:29 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

Yeah, I admit that you and Zappa pretty much fuse together in my mind.

Less lately, since me and Zappa have been talking baseball...

But I more or less consider you the same poster.

I know you arent, but your views more or less mirror each other, and your pretty much the only Conservatives on here who can argue a coherent point.


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Re: 20 Arrested in London [Re: Phred]
    #5949655 - 08/10/06 02:24 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

What are the odds this story ranks alongside "Tanks at Heathrow" in 2003 or the "men in space suits looking for ricin" in 2004 scams?

Remember, 1000 people have been arrested since 2000 because of "terror-related offences" with only 154 charged with anything.

No doubt Blair is already planning on using this as excuse to introduce more "anti-terror" curbs on our freedom.

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Re: 20 Arrested in London [Re: Madtowntripper]
    #5949657 - 08/10/06 02:27 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

your pretty much the only Conservatives on here who can argue a coherent point.

I wouldn't go that far  :laugh:

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Re: 20 Arrested in London [Re: Alex213]
    #5949717 - 08/10/06 04:21 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

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Re: 20 Arrested in London [Re: Madtowntripper]
    #5949718 - 08/10/06 04:22 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

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I dont understand how people get caught doing this stuff...

This is strictly hypothetical, but I work at an airport, and I can think of 10 ways I could bring down a plane. Numerous planes...

People have to be seriously incompetent. Maybe its the racial factor working against them.

Again, I'm not condoning terrorism. Blowing up planes is wrong. I'm just saying, terrorism doesnt seem to be very hard to do. But people screw it up all the time....




if thats true..then a case could be made that its another karl rove setup (like that loose series of rants that became an "intricate plot" to blow up the holland tunnel).. however staged in the UK given credit to scotland yard so as to make it seem less obvious..since rove only needs to present the appearence of a continuing "terrorist threat" in order to scare voters to the repugnicans...


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Re: 20 Arrested in London [Re: Phred]
    #5949721 - 08/10/06 04:31 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

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Phred said:
Like I said, they probably got caught because their civil liberties were violated. Phone taps, interception of e-mails, bugs placed in strategic locations, racial profiling, infiltration of mosques... maybe all that and more. Too bad the ACLU doesn't operate in the UK. This case cries out for ACLU involvement.




assuming that is the case (which i doubt)..then your merely replacing one risk factor with another..and not making anyone safer...


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Re: 20 Arrested in London [Re: Phred]
    #5949749 - 08/10/06 05:09 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

> Before their names are made public, let's run a pool on how many of these thwarted 'splodeydopes have a "Mohammed" or "Mahmoud" as one of their names.

That would be racial profiling and we have been told that racial profiling doesn't help identify probable terrorists. See, little-ol-granny could be a bomb totting pawn for OBL. You just never know. Since racial profiling doesn't help identify probable sploidy-types, I don't think a single one of them will have a "Mohammed" or "Mahmoud" in their name.

> assuming that is the case (which i doubt)..

I had assumed he was speaking with a heavy dose of sarcasm.


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Re: 20 Arrested in London [Re: Seuss]
    #5949816 - 08/10/06 07:05 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

The reason they catch people is because they make this shit up. That or they entrap them, which has happened in the US 2 times already that I remeber.

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Re: 20 Arrested in London [Re: twiggedoubt]
    #5949832 - 08/10/06 07:27 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

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The reason they catch people is because they make this shit up.  That or they entrap them, which has happened in the US 2 times already that I remeber.




So the only thing that will make you believe they would actually do it is seeing them pull it off?  Maybe they just like to brush their teeth with RDX, who are we to judge them?  :rolleyes:

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Re: 20 Arrested in London [Re: Phred]
    #5950233 - 08/10/06 11:32 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

Well, I dunno if the UK authorities have started guarding London mosques against Islamophobic backlash yet, but the British Parliament has wasted no time springing into action:

From http://www.scrappleface.com/?p=2306

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UK Panel Asks: Why Do They Hate Airplanes?

by Scott Ott

(2006-08-10) — The British Parliament, in a rapid response to a terror plot foiled by Scotland Yard yesterday, announced formation of a study panel today to determine why some Muslims hate airplanes.

Early reports indicate 21 men have been taken into custody in connection with a plan to take down an unknown number of U.S.-bound passenger jets originating in Great Britain.

The expert panel will examine various theories about why airplanes engender such hatred among devoted followers of a peaceful religion.

“Is it the horrendous noise? The speed? The condensation trails?” said one unnamed source close to the panel, listing some of the areas of inquiry the experts plan to pursue. “Because if it’s any of those things, we can get to work on engineering changes to make airplanes more tolerable to our Muslim brothers.”








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Re: 20 Arrested in London [Re: Phred]
    #5950259 - 08/10/06 11:39 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

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Phred said:
Like I said, they probably got caught because their civil liberties were violated. Phone taps, interception of e-mails, bugs placed in strategic locations, racial profiling, infiltration of mosques... maybe all that and more. Too bad the ACLU doesn't operate in the UK. This case cries out for ACLU involvement.




Phred




So are you of the opinion that their civil liberties should not be violated, and it would be better if they killed many people. For the sake of everyone keeping their civil liberties? This is a serious question, I am trying to figure out my stance. On the one hand, many lives were saved, on the other, we are all that much closer to a police state.

Now that I think of it, it wouldn't be far fetched that this was all made up, to make people(like me) debate giving up their liberties for the sake of human life. 9/11 anyone?

This world is starting to terrify me.


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Re: 20 Arrested in London [Re: Phred]
    #5950307 - 08/10/06 11:50 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

Just to put people's minds at ease, that spoof from Scrappleface is just that -- a spoof. The British Parliament hasn't yet convened such a panel, and may never convene such a panel.

There will of course be a lot more information coming out over the next while regarding this latest venture by followers of the Religion of Peace (TM), but here is the best single summarizing article I've come across so far -- http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2-2306721,00.html

For a comprehensive digest of several other articles, many of which go into considerably more detail on various aspects of the plot, check out http://michellemalkin.com/archives/005696.htm




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Re: 20 Arrested in London [Re: Hank, FTW]
    #5950347 - 08/10/06 12:00 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

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alpharedecho said:
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Phred said:
Like I said, they probably got caught because their civil liberties were violated. Phone taps, interception of e-mails, bugs placed in strategic locations, racial profiling, infiltration of mosques... maybe all that and more. Too bad the ACLU doesn't operate in the UK. This case cries out for ACLU involvement.




Phred




So are you of the opinion that their civil liberties should not be violated, and it would be better if they killed many people. For the sake of everyone keeping their civil liberties? This is a serious question, I am trying to figure out my stance. On the one hand, many lives were saved, on the other, we are all that much closer to a police state.

Now that I think of it, it wouldn't be far fetched that this was all made up, to make people(like me) debate giving up their liberties for the sake of human life. 9/11 anyone?

This world is starting to terrify me.





actually..the amerikkkan ppl already have made the decision to surrender their freedoms in return for their lives..despite the very glaring contradiction...

EDIT ..the timing of this event..immediately after lieberman lost in CT..is especially telling...theres talk that was about to rush to liebermans' aid..and this might well be that aid...

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