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OfflineDarkBlue
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Shroom ID Florida Cyanesence?
    #5949387 - 08/10/06 12:09 AM (17 years, 5 months ago)

Might be spelled wrong, but I've looked everywhere and you guys have a marvelous forum, and have it rolling smooth, well here is it I live in North West Florida and I just need an ID but they also sorta look like the Cubensis? I've ate 5 a couple nights ago (after making sure they don't have little white worms in it) and got an ok body buzz now im ready ! but wanna be sure...

I got these a couple weeks ago but threw them out thinking they were poison, they dont have rings on them... Heres what I got today: SAME SHROOMS



The spore print is green in a way but black in a way...
Another Q: I had was when their still small you can in in a couple I picked their gills are still a good milk white/light grey color, if it'd contain psilocyban.. once they mature they contain alot of black, the smell and taste is sort of not the best but get by..
Stain: IS blue but doesent show up as well on the stem.
Stems are long and stretched..
If it was you would you dry these or keep them in the fridge and eat them I'd guess 'bout 10 wet.. Think that's about all my questions, I'm tired and trying not to babble, if it doesen't make any sense I'll restate everything after work, thanks and g'night! -Blu3


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Re: Shroom ID Florida Cyanesence? [Re: DarkBlue]
    #5949399 - 08/10/06 12:12 AM (17 years, 5 months ago)

Look like copes to me... but you say a greenish print?


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Re: Shroom ID Florida Cyanesence? [Re: stankness]
    #5949413 - 08/10/06 12:17 AM (17 years, 5 months ago)

Well it was there all night it looks a tad greenish but where i temp. set it, it looks black


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Re: Shroom ID Florida Cyanesence? [Re: DarkBlue]
    #5949433 - 08/10/06 12:25 AM (17 years, 5 months ago)

The caps start to turn a grayish and some start crackin during the day, but when I find nice blue bruises and the caps almost dark I can pinpoint it having worms in it...


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Re: Shroom ID Florida Cyanesence? [Re: DarkBlue]
    #5949548 - 08/10/06 01:17 AM (17 years, 5 months ago)

Well, they are definitely NOT cubes, and I don't believe I see any Pannaeolus cyanscens sp. I believe what I see are Pannaeolus antillarum sp.
Two very close species with subtle differences, the main being how the blue meanie gets it's name. The spores on the cap can look blue in a way, and in places where bugs have eaten them the black gills and underside would show up as dark spots on the topside.
I can't decifer any blueing in your pics, but I do see some brownish umbras, which can occur in both species.
It is possible that you have some mixed in there somewhere. I think that when you collect some blue meanies, you'll know it.
GG or mj will probably ring in soon to put this to rest. Meanwhile PLEASE, DON'T EAT ANYMORE. They probably won't kill you, but they're not good for you either.


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Re: Shroom ID Florida Cyanesence? [Re: LouiseLouise]
    #5949560 - 08/10/06 01:22 AM (17 years, 5 months ago)

Wow, bad idea to eat them before getting an ID...


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Re: Shroom ID Florida Cyanesence? [Re: Lily_Morgan]
    #5949589 - 08/10/06 01:37 AM (17 years, 5 months ago)

dont see any bruising, some i'd rule copes out.


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Re: Shroom ID Florida Cyanesence? [Re: 2859558484]
    #5949602 - 08/10/06 01:46 AM (17 years, 5 months ago)

Here is an excellent pic from www.sporeworks.com (hope they dont mind) showing the blueing you are looking for...



The stem is where the blueing is supposed to be easiest. Definatly dont eat things that you havent ID'd, your' mother would say.


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Re: Shroom ID Florida Cyanesence? [Re: Feelers]
    #5949788 - 08/10/06 06:08 AM (17 years, 5 months ago)

haha, appreciate it guys, that's the prob I had was they resemble too many other types! I was wondering when their still little and the gills are still white/greyish, can it still contain alot of Psilo... My spelling just sucks! You know what I mean...

Or would you just recommend me eat the shrroms without the white underside, and just the darks.... I found them in the same cow field I found the first ones in, and it's the only type of shroom half edible around here, I've been to 3 cow fields and those are the only kind I see, may not be season for others or something, well I'm off! I'm going to do another spore print(With a dark and light one)


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Re: Shroom ID Florida Cyanesence? [Re: DarkBlue]
    #5950016 - 08/10/06 09:56 AM (17 years, 5 months ago)

I think they would recommend you not to eat any of them, regardless of the color of the gills/undersides. What you want is a mushrooms that looks similar to the ones you found, but with intense blue bruising like the the picture above. If your shrooms dont bruise like that, they are like 99% certain to be inactive, and might not make you feel so good.

Those are not Pan. cyanescens sadly...


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Re: Shroom ID Florida Cyanesence? [Re: DarkBlue]
    #5950910 - 08/10/06 03:35 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

Those are the non-active dung-loving mushroom Panaeolus antillarum.

For sure.

Luckily they are not considered poisonous, but not really edibles either.

Don't ever eat unidentified mushrooms, ever again. :tongue:


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Re: Shroom ID Florida Cyanesence? [Re: GGreatOne234]
    #5951027 - 08/10/06 04:24 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

... So you are sure, not any of these are edible? some of them old ones out there were almost all blue.. Hmm, I do think 1/5 of these are, hmm... Grr! ... Well not expecting that answer, but.. Hmm Hopefully late on this month some different ones come out! The owner might feed the cows nonshroom food.. :-P Well off to another field I recon.... :'( And i did get the spore prints, even the light grey ones had a dark dark purple, but looks more like black to me.. *Tear* Well I hope they arent eating my liver right now! HAha, I want rain now! :-P


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Re: Shroom ID Florida Cyanesence? [Re: DarkBlue]
    #5951112 - 08/10/06 04:40 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

I'm pretty damn sure those are all Panaeolus antillarum.

I don't see any bluing in your pictures. Maybe it is just your imagination seeing the blue bruising.

Farmers do not feed the cows anything that would stop shroom production.

As I stated above, Panaeolus antillarum is a dung loving mushroom. And they are common in Florida, growing from both cow and horse dung. And their spore prints are black, not purple.

The field you are hunting is certainly producing dung loving mushrooms, just not the psychoactive ones.

And again, Do not eat unidentified mushrooms.


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Re: Shroom ID Florida Cyanesence? [Re: DarkBlue]
    #5951147 - 08/10/06 04:48 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

Comment:In the late 1940s this species gained a reputation in Austrlia as the 'Hysteria Fungus' allegedly causing accidental hallucinogenic iniebriations in foragers in some parts of that country. Later it was determined that the actual cauitive mushroom was Copelandia cyanescens which is macroscopically similar. This species is edible but does not taste worth eating.

THANKS! You are da'bombbud man! Exactly the same and I now know how to tell all of them apart! Still bums me out.. haha


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Re: Shroom ID Florida Cyanesence? [Re: DarkBlue]
    #5954044 - 08/11/06 02:41 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

I've eaten some mushrooms that look VERY similar, sold to me by a trusted dealer. And I did trip. What could I have eaten?


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