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The mind and the value of meditation
    #5949212 - 08/09/06 11:17 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

We human beings have six senses/sense organs: the eyes (sight), the ears (sound), the mouth (taste), the nose (smell), the body (touch), and the mind (mental formations).

We have a decent grasp on the first five , but the last one, the mind, we seem to have more difficulty with. The mind seeks after pleasurable sense objects and is averse to unpleasant ones. It has the capabilities of symbolic thought, analysis, understanding, ignorance, emotions, etc. etc.

It is the interpreter of all sensory data. And here arises a major problem. While there are some circumstances where this interpretation is necessary, such as problem solving, the mind continues to interpret and analyse and think and imagine and search even when none of those activities are necessary.

Our attention gets so distracted from simple awareness into following the mind, instead of accepting the mind as you would accept your right hand. We even go so far as to identify with the mind.

This is why meditation is so important, and why it is said that your whole life becomes meditation. In meditation you sit and are aware of what's happening. You are able to observe the arising and cessation of thoughts and feelings. In life without meditation (I often hear this state of mind being called sleeping, metaphorically), you are a slave to your thoughts and feelings. You are a slave to your monkey mind seeking after pleasure and running away from pain. But in meditation, you are simply aware of these mental activities for what they are. You don't let your peace or joy get interupted by them. You are able to have a perfectly still, non-reactive mind.

This practice should eventually extend into your everyday life, having a still mind no matter where you are or what you're doing. Having a still mind like that also allows your intuition to function properly, and you will be able to act intuitively, which is a wonderful thing.


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Re: The mind and the value of meditation [Re: Fractalated]
    #5949979 - 08/10/06 09:40 AM (17 years, 5 months ago)

one skanda for signal content from each of the senses that enter the mind and interact in the cognitive area.

and one skanda for mind signals re-entering the mind as if memory itself were also a sense being offered for interaction in the cognitive area.

what the mind feeds back into itself is associated memory content triggered by interactions in the cognitive area.

each sense has it's own area of primary signal activity in the brain;
the memory sense signals arrive in those areas as well as the cognitive interaction area.

meditation is a kind of practice (or habit) that can transcend other habits (it is also of an associative nature) and which can provide glimpses of what is happenning in the gestalt/cosmic now.

IMO Meditation is a prioritized mental program which is very simple, and which is returned to many times over as in recovery from distraction during the period of practice.

Many different results are possible but you can look at meditation as a healing habit to be integrated with the bundle of other habits that form intelligent life.


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Re: The mind and the value of meditation [Re: redgreenvines]
    #5950141 - 08/10/06 10:54 AM (17 years, 5 months ago)

What you say makes perfect sense. :thumbup:

I never thought of the memory as almost its own sense.


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Re: The mind and the value of meditation [Re: Fractalated]
    #5950172 - 08/10/06 11:08 AM (17 years, 5 months ago)

it is a funny one but it is an equivalent one
yet it is both a recorder of sense signals
as well as an association (or resonance) generator which "loops back" like a primary sense(memory recall to the mind theater)


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Re: The mind and the value of meditation [Re: redgreenvines]
    #5950310 - 08/10/06 11:51 AM (17 years, 5 months ago)

Is it's only evolutionary benefit the ability to recall past actions that were beneficial to the organism, or does it serve some other or even higher purpose?


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Re: The mind and the value of meditation [Re: Fractalated]
    #5950416 - 08/10/06 12:20 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

Fixation of memory (from the senses) and associative processing (towards a motive response) happens in all creatures with anything more than a ganglion knot of nerves (even bugs etc.).

With more complex creatures like us, we can accommodate many simultaneous reccollections. From such floods of data, patterns can emerge which can have a lot of survival value.

Mostly it is just poetry and fun
so much of it has to be suppressed so we can conform and work in society.

Meditation can be useful to reawaken the richness of this potential in a sustainable way.
A certain effort at not reacting is required to allow layers to stack up naturally.
a simmilar thing happens with psychedelics, i.e. you get layer stacking whether you are refraining from reflex mental activity or not. The content (with psychedelics) is usually different too, since if you do react the reaction is ploughed into the content of the stack.


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