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Unfolding Nature Shop: Unfolding Nature: Being in the Implicate Order

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Re: Lost after death [Re: Fospher]
    #5952248 - 08/10/06 10:25 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

'm looking right at your post, and you define the brain as an organ for our sixth sense. How else could you perceive sense abide feeling
it? You can't think smells, or think touching someone.


Actually feeling is one of the six senses, which the body itself is that sensory organ, such as sight, sound, taste, smell, thinking are other sensory mediums one uses to gather and assimilate information, and if your talking about the actual organ feeling something, the brain does this as well, as when you get stressed out and you obtain a serious headache,

I think your getting mixed up with sensual pleasures and senses, when we 'feel' sensual pleasure from tasting something that taste good, then we have a feeling, but we also can have sensual thoughts too, that gives us feeling also, there is no difference, so in effect we can feel with our brains too,

and who says we can't think about smell, sound or tastes, in fact our biology salivates towards those thoughts as being real


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Re: Lost after death [Re: Fospher]
    #5952409 - 08/10/06 11:04 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

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Fospher said:
Well, besides reality not being the metaphysical but the physical, and life, experience and death being events of this world, maybe I did pull a fast one with that statement a tad. Oh well, I posted that when I got up at 8:00 in the morning, so I'm officially excused! :lol:




Funny. You're saying that reality is not metaphysical when metaphysics is exactly that field of study which concerns itself with the nature of reality. :grin:


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Re: Lost after death [Re: AlteredAgain]
    #5952757 - 08/11/06 12:33 AM (17 years, 5 months ago)

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Not true. The perceiver is the perceived. Thus you can't really say you have either.




and? im honestly not seeing your point.


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Re: Lost after death [Re: Basilides]
    #5952766 - 08/11/06 12:36 AM (17 years, 5 months ago)

I see pneuma

What's a pneuma?


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Re: Lost after death [Re: Deviate]
    #5952774 - 08/11/06 12:40 AM (17 years, 5 months ago)

Basilides was asserting that awareness/consciousness is independently existent, without backing up this claim. So I was arguing that awareness cannot exist independently of the object (subject implies object). Then you made a comment about something you perceived as being contradictory, and I was trying to clarify. That was my point: clarification.


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"Now that the principalities and the powers stockpile weapons of mass destruction, contaminate the earth with their feverish industry, release floods of images to trigger insatiable desires, treat animals and humans as commodities and functions of a market, the devil must be grinning from ear to ear."


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Re: Lost after death [Re: Fractalated]
    #5952821 - 08/11/06 12:59 AM (17 years, 5 months ago)

but you said the perceiver and the object are one, thus awareness can exist independent of object. it can take on form and it can be formless.


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Re: Lost after death [Re: Deviate]
    #5953045 - 08/11/06 04:31 AM (17 years, 5 months ago)

After countless hours playing Diablo, I often wonder if in a future life I will remember previously battling demons, when in reality I had just been playing a game.


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