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Mescaline trip underway
    #5948014 - 08/09/06 05:10 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

My friend and I drank 3 feet of boiled down SP slightly over an hour ago. The nausea is ever so slight and I think I feel it becoming more profound gradually. Here's to hoping we trip balls!

We're gunna be outdoors later, but is over 100F outside as of right now, so... fuck that.


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Re: Mescaline trip underway [Re: Solidcell]
    #5948074 - 08/09/06 05:27 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

ha what i learned from drinking that stuff is dont dose twice...its pretty brutal


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Re: Mescaline trip underway [Re: DeathCompany]
    #5948100 - 08/09/06 05:34 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

No no, we split the 3 feet worth between us. We drank it in the course of 30 mins. The nausea is slightly more present, I can start to taste that saliva sensation that you get when you're nearing vomiting.


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Re: Mescaline trip underway [Re: Solidcell]
    #5948254 - 08/09/06 06:21 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

Well its been almost 2.5 hours since taking the stuff. I'm beginning to wonder if the cactus was really active. It was indicernable to 2 other SP aquired from eBay and another member (both inside and out). Maybe it's as Hunter S. says, we'll go through the denial/scepticism until the moment we start to feel it. Hopefully we do...


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Re: Mescaline trip underway [Re: Solidcell]
    #5948269 - 08/09/06 06:27 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

extractions are great :smile: Pretty easy too, and you get accurate doses, and almost no nausea.
Look into it :smile:
There is a thread in ODD, and there are other forums with far more info about extractions. but they are hiding in THE NOOKs and crannies of the net :-p


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Re: Mescaline trip underway [Re: Jaeger]
    #5948312 - 08/09/06 06:39 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

The ether was wearing off. The acid was long gone. But the mescaline was running strong. Good mescaline comes on slow. First hour's all waiting, and then about halfway through second hour. You start cursing the creep who burned you because nothing's happening. And then...ZANG!


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Re: Mescaline trip underway [Re: ezsefix]
    #5948353 - 08/09/06 06:54 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

:wink:


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Re: Mescaline trip underway [Re: Solidcell]
    #5948357 - 08/09/06 06:56 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

Just relax...listen to some music...flow into your body, and if that means puke, go for it.  Mescaline makes you kneel sometimes.  :wink:

You'll come up very slowly.  Until you're flying!  :heart: :thumbup: :cool:


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Re: Mescaline trip underway [Re: MOTH]
    #5948372 - 08/09/06 07:01 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

Hunter S., heh, yea I was thinking of citing that sentence but It's been 3 hours, and I got over the *slight* nausea an hour ago, it hardly persists.

EllemyshShade, so how was that trip you had during that post? I stopped reading after you said you had to stop typing. Hope it went well.

So much for ours however, 3 hours and nothing...bummer.


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Re: Mescaline trip underway [Re: Solidcell]
    #5948381 - 08/09/06 07:04 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

bummer man, ive had the same shit happen to me as well. You get done drinking that nasty shit and then nothing happens. Oh well, time to smoke a bowl.


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Re: Mescaline trip underway [Re: 2859558484]
    #5948398 - 08/09/06 07:09 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

So nothing huh? Did you follow the tek exactly? Did you get your San Pedro online? I hope it works out for you, I am planning on trying San Pedro in the near future and I hope for the best.


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Re: Mescaline trip underway [Re: Solidcell]
    #5948406 - 08/09/06 07:11 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

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Hunter S., heh, yea I was thinking of citing that sentence but It's been  3 hours, and I got over the *slight* nausea an hour ago, it hardly persists.

EllemyshShade, so how was that trip you had during that post?  I stopped reading after you said you had to stop typing.  Hope it went well.

So much for ours however, 3 hours and nothing...bummer.




Don't despair...if nothing happens it just means you have to refine your process.  Like try boiling your 1.5 feet of cactus down into a syrup next time, to condense all the goodies.  (mescaline is a sugar) There's also an easy to understand extraction method floating around the Shroomery so that you don't have to DRINK anything. 

Anyway, you had a worthy experiment at least.  :thumbup:

My trip the other day went wonderful.  I feel I definately got what I needed.  Thanks for asking.    :heart:


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Re: Mescaline trip underway [Re: MOTH]
    #5948616 - 08/09/06 08:14 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

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EllemyshShade said:

(mescaline is a sugar)






i'm going to have disagree with that.


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Re: Mescaline trip underway [Re: eVil_]
    #5948635 - 08/09/06 08:20 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

thought it was a salt...


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Re: Mescaline trip underway [Re: EquilibriuM]
    #5948838 - 08/09/06 09:23 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

EllemyshShade, we did do the boil down to syrup thing. This is most definatly San Pedro, which is what I don't understand. We're gunna go for the extraction next time so we either end up with powder or end up with nothing. What a bummer, we had to drink that horrible stuff and now, 5 hours later, all I have is a slightly upset stomach.


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Re: Mescaline trip underway [Re: Jaeger]
    #5948876 - 08/09/06 09:37 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

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extractions are great :smile: Pretty easy too, and you get accurate doses, and almost no nausea.
Look into it :smile:
There is a thread in ODD, and there are other forums with far more info about extractions. but they are hiding in THE NOOKs and crannies of the net :-p




  There are many many more alkaloids in the sacred cactus then just mescaline.Swim has never tried pure mesc but he bets its without/missing the teacher.  Please correct swim if he is wrong.
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Re: Mescaline trip underway [Re: kija]
    #5948950 - 08/09/06 09:57 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

This is true for peyote, but to a far lesser degree in san pedro.  There is significantly less other active alkaloids in pedro, according to what I have read from other people who really know their stuff.  Granted, the non alkaloids do influence a trip, maybe added body load, and increased stomach discomfort, but you aren't missing out on much else according to people who have compared both methods of use.

And to the other guy, Mescaline is NOT A SUGAR :smile:


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Re: Mescaline trip underway [Re: Jaeger]
    #5949199 - 08/09/06 11:14 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

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This is true for peyote, but to a far lesser degree in san pedro.  There is significantly less other active alkaloids in pedro, according to what I have read from other people who really know their stuff.  Granted, the non alkaloids do influence a trip, maybe added body load, and increased stomach discomfort, but you aren't missing out on much else according to people who have compared both methods of use.

And to the other guy, Mescaline is NOT A SUGAR :smile:




guy? elem is a WOMAN.

:laugh: no offense  :heart:


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Re: Mescaline trip underway [Re: CptnGarden]
    #5949416 - 08/10/06 12:19 AM (17 years, 5 months ago)

Okay, a few questions.

1. How long did you boil for? You used the mjshroomer-ish tek, right?

2. Was it bitter?

3. Did you boil the pulp a second time? It's also sometimes worth it to nibble on the strained pulp to see how bitter it is. It never becomes completely bland, but there can be a noticable difference.


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Re: Mescaline trip underway [Re: Koala Koolio]
    #5949527 - 08/10/06 01:07 AM (17 years, 5 months ago)

It was boiled for 3-4 hours, yea it was his tek.

Was it ever bitter, that tasted horrible. It looked EXACTLY like the end product in the tek.

I'm thinking of extracting the mescaline next time, does anyone have a particular tek they're fond of (we also need to be able to aquire the necessary supplies)?


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Re: Mescaline trip underway [Re: Solidcell]
    #5949642 - 08/10/06 02:14 AM (17 years, 5 months ago)

Hmm... there are some people who just have naturally high tolerances, perhaps you are one?


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Re: Mescaline trip underway [Re: Koala Koolio]
    #5949837 - 08/10/06 07:31 AM (17 years, 5 months ago)

Here is a decent tek for dried cacti:
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Cat/0/Number/4751368/an/0/page/0

Using KOH instead of NaOH and using toluene instead of xylene is far less prone to emulsions.


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Re: Mescaline trip underway [Re: CptnGarden]
    #5949941 - 08/10/06 09:05 AM (17 years, 5 months ago)

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ShroomieOfDoomie said:
Quote:

Jaeger said:
This is true for peyote, but to a far lesser degree in san pedro.  There is significantly less other active alkaloids in pedro, according to what I have read from other people who really know their stuff.  Granted, the non alkaloids do influence a trip, maybe added body load, and increased stomach discomfort, but you aren't missing out on much else according to people who have compared both methods of use.

And to the other guy, Mescaline is NOT A SUGAR :smile:




guy? elem is a WOMAN.

:laugh: no offense  :heart:




Sorry, I heard some knowledgable guys saying it was a sugar. 

To the original poster, better luck next time!  :thumbup:


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Re: Mescaline trip underway [Re: Jaeger]
    #5949949 - 08/10/06 09:11 AM (17 years, 5 months ago)

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This is true for peyote, but to a far lesser degree in san pedro.  There is significantly less other active alkaloids in pedro, according to what I have read from other people who really know their stuff.  Granted, the non alkaloids do influence a trip, maybe added body load, and increased stomach discomfort, but you aren't missing out on much else according to people who have compared both methods of use.

And to the other guy, Mescaline is NOT A SUGAR :smile:




Just so you know I wasn't talking out of my ass.  :tongue2:

Check out this link

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Clean your Pedro or other column cactus of all wax coated skin. Slice it thin, boil and press the cell contents out with distilled water and a PC. Boil the solution down to consistancy of pancake syrup. I like mine a bit heavier, but not honey viscosity, it gets too hot if you make it too thick and Mescaline degrades at 350 degrees F.
Anybody make tongue candy? Mescaline is sugar. Under 350 F it is stable, boil it too hot and the syrup will carmelize and you lose.




I don't know WHO to believe!  :shocked: :confused: :wink:


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Re: Mescaline trip underway [Re: MOTH]
    #5950196 - 08/10/06 11:17 AM (17 years, 5 months ago)

The mix of cacti soup has lots of sugars from the plant, but mescaline itself is a phenethylamine.
The high sugar content in the tea gets reduced like you are making candy, and the temps can get very high as water gets driven off.  All nan was saying is that if you go too long, and reduce too much, temps might get high enough to degrade the mescaline.
I see how that is confusing though :smile:

And knowing who to believe is easy, me :-p


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Re: Mescaline trip underway [Re: Jaeger]
    #5950284 - 08/10/06 11:45 AM (17 years, 5 months ago)

It's my guess that the heat is what did it. I'll give it another go but I'd rather do extraction next time.


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Re: Mescaline trip underway [Re: Solidcell]
    #5950305 - 08/10/06 11:50 AM (17 years, 5 months ago)

Mesc is pretty stable, unless you reduced the tea to a thick syrup, you shouldn't have hurt it.
It might just be a weak cacti :frown:


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Re: Mescaline trip underway [Re: Jaeger]
    #5950606 - 08/10/06 01:27 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

True, it seems to hold up in heat. You may also have a pedro that just isn't potent. They are so variable that you can consume one cactus and see colors and tracers everywhere. You can get another that has little or no effect.


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Re: Mescaline trip underway [Re: Jaeger]
    #5950897 - 08/10/06 03:25 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

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Jaeger said:
extractions are great :smile: Pretty easy too, and you get accurate doses, and almost no nausea.
Look into it :smile:
There is a thread in ODD, and there are other forums with far more info about extractions. but they are hiding in THE NOOKs and crannies of the net :-p



it's weird, I get mild nausea, but it's mostly just a kind of restlessness, rather than just nausea.  from extracted mescaline, anyway.  I think the nausea is unavoidable(though can be lessened by taking actual mescaline) in any form of mescaline; cactus, extracted mesc. HCl, etc.


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Re: Mescaline trip underway [Re: Jaeger]
    #5951915 - 08/10/06 08:19 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

:heart:
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Jaeger said:
The mix of cacti soup has lots of sugars from the plant, but mescaline itself is a phenethylamine.
The high sugar content in the tea gets reduced like you are making candy, and the temps can get very high as water gets driven off.  All nan was saying is that if you go too long, and reduce too much, temps might get high enough to degrade the mescaline.
I see how that is confusing though :smile:

And knowing who to believe is easy, me :-p




Hehe, thanks for the clarification.  :grin: :thumbup:


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