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Re: Mescaline trip underway [Re: Solidcell]
    #5949642 - 08/10/06 02:14 AM (17 years, 5 months ago)

Hmm... there are some people who just have naturally high tolerances, perhaps you are one?


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Re: Mescaline trip underway [Re: Koala Koolio]
    #5949837 - 08/10/06 07:31 AM (17 years, 5 months ago)

Here is a decent tek for dried cacti:
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Cat/0/Number/4751368/an/0/page/0

Using KOH instead of NaOH and using toluene instead of xylene is far less prone to emulsions.


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Re: Mescaline trip underway [Re: CptnGarden]
    #5949941 - 08/10/06 09:05 AM (17 years, 5 months ago)

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ShroomieOfDoomie said:
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Jaeger said:
This is true for peyote, but to a far lesser degree in san pedro.  There is significantly less other active alkaloids in pedro, according to what I have read from other people who really know their stuff.  Granted, the non alkaloids do influence a trip, maybe added body load, and increased stomach discomfort, but you aren't missing out on much else according to people who have compared both methods of use.

And to the other guy, Mescaline is NOT A SUGAR :smile:




guy? elem is a WOMAN.

:laugh: no offense  :heart:




Sorry, I heard some knowledgable guys saying it was a sugar. 

To the original poster, better luck next time!  :thumbup:


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Re: Mescaline trip underway [Re: Jaeger]
    #5949949 - 08/10/06 09:11 AM (17 years, 5 months ago)

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Jaeger said:
This is true for peyote, but to a far lesser degree in san pedro.  There is significantly less other active alkaloids in pedro, according to what I have read from other people who really know their stuff.  Granted, the non alkaloids do influence a trip, maybe added body load, and increased stomach discomfort, but you aren't missing out on much else according to people who have compared both methods of use.

And to the other guy, Mescaline is NOT A SUGAR :smile:




Just so you know I wasn't talking out of my ass.  :tongue2:

Check out this link

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Clean your Pedro or other column cactus of all wax coated skin. Slice it thin, boil and press the cell contents out with distilled water and a PC. Boil the solution down to consistancy of pancake syrup. I like mine a bit heavier, but not honey viscosity, it gets too hot if you make it too thick and Mescaline degrades at 350 degrees F.
Anybody make tongue candy? Mescaline is sugar. Under 350 F it is stable, boil it too hot and the syrup will carmelize and you lose.




I don't know WHO to believe!  :shocked: :confused: :wink:


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Re: Mescaline trip underway [Re: MOTH]
    #5950196 - 08/10/06 11:17 AM (17 years, 5 months ago)

The mix of cacti soup has lots of sugars from the plant, but mescaline itself is a phenethylamine.
The high sugar content in the tea gets reduced like you are making candy, and the temps can get very high as water gets driven off.  All nan was saying is that if you go too long, and reduce too much, temps might get high enough to degrade the mescaline.
I see how that is confusing though :smile:

And knowing who to believe is easy, me :-p


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Re: Mescaline trip underway [Re: Jaeger]
    #5950284 - 08/10/06 11:45 AM (17 years, 5 months ago)

It's my guess that the heat is what did it. I'll give it another go but I'd rather do extraction next time.


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Re: Mescaline trip underway [Re: Solidcell]
    #5950305 - 08/10/06 11:50 AM (17 years, 5 months ago)

Mesc is pretty stable, unless you reduced the tea to a thick syrup, you shouldn't have hurt it.
It might just be a weak cacti :frown:


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Re: Mescaline trip underway [Re: Jaeger]
    #5950606 - 08/10/06 01:27 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

True, it seems to hold up in heat. You may also have a pedro that just isn't potent. They are so variable that you can consume one cactus and see colors and tracers everywhere. You can get another that has little or no effect.


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Re: Mescaline trip underway [Re: Jaeger]
    #5950897 - 08/10/06 03:25 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

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Jaeger said:
extractions are great :smile: Pretty easy too, and you get accurate doses, and almost no nausea.
Look into it :smile:
There is a thread in ODD, and there are other forums with far more info about extractions. but they are hiding in THE NOOKs and crannies of the net :-p



it's weird, I get mild nausea, but it's mostly just a kind of restlessness, rather than just nausea.  from extracted mescaline, anyway.  I think the nausea is unavoidable(though can be lessened by taking actual mescaline) in any form of mescaline; cactus, extracted mesc. HCl, etc.


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Re: Mescaline trip underway [Re: Jaeger]
    #5951915 - 08/10/06 08:19 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

:heart:
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Jaeger said:
The mix of cacti soup has lots of sugars from the plant, but mescaline itself is a phenethylamine.
The high sugar content in the tea gets reduced like you are making candy, and the temps can get very high as water gets driven off.  All nan was saying is that if you go too long, and reduce too much, temps might get high enough to degrade the mescaline.
I see how that is confusing though :smile:

And knowing who to believe is easy, me :-p




Hehe, thanks for the clarification.  :grin: :thumbup:


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