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InvisibleHank, FTW
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Re: question regarding Israel's supposed "targeted" bombings [Re: downforpot]
    #5950385 - 08/10/06 12:13 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

I didn't say that, but if Israel was being surrounded with certain destruction, I wouldn't put it past them to fire off all their nukes to spite this hateful world.  :pirate:


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Re: question regarding Israel's supposed "targeted" bombings [Re: downforpot]
    #5950424 - 08/10/06 12:23 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

Bio Stated : My question is: where does Israel get its information of where the tens of thousands of Hezbollah militia members are located? Do they have spies on the ground and satelities in space tracking every member of the militia?


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You actually not far from the truth. The Mossad (translated into English, it means " The Institute")is one of the most advanced intelligence agencies in existence. In my opinion, depending on the operation, they make the USA's CIA look like Toys R US...


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Re: question regarding Israel's supposed "targeted" bombings [Re: Vvellum]
    #5950521 - 08/10/06 12:54 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

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bi0 said:
Wait. A neo-conservative apologist defending UN resolutions? Surreal. Why should Lebanon maintain accordance with UN resolutions if Israel does not?





Thats funny

You lie or at least evidence your ignorance and then when Zappa refutes your claim with the appropriate UN source you and Stone try to misrepresent the reason for him sourcing the UN. Now, why would you do that?


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Re: question regarding Israel's supposed "targeted" bombings [Re: d33p]
    #5950899 - 08/10/06 03:28 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

Because they are benighted and attend the school of Helmut the Duck.
Also, they probably have never had any contact with Joooooooos.

I would like to point out that the foreign agents referred to in 1559 are the Syrians. Israel had pulled out some years previous to that resolution. Israel was entirely out of Lebanon. (Note to Helmut, Shebaa was part of Syria, not Lebanon). Thank you.


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InvisibleHank, FTW
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Re: question regarding Israel's supposed "targeted" bombings [Re: zappaisgod]
    #5950981 - 08/10/06 04:09 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

I have met plenty of joooooooooooos and they are pretty cool people. Its the crazy zionist I don't trust.


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Re: question regarding Israel's supposed "targeted" bombings [Re: Hank, FTW]
    #5951069 - 08/10/06 04:32 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

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alpharedecho said:
I didn't say that, but if Israel was being surrounded with certain destruction, I wouldn't put it past them to fire off all their nukes to spite this hateful world.  :pirate:




Israel has been surrounded by almost certain destruction countless times. They have always beat the living shit out of the Muslims and always will beat the shit out of them.


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Re: question regarding Israel's supposed "targeted" bombings [Re: downforpot]
    #5951119 - 08/10/06 04:42 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

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downforpot said:
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alpharedecho said:
I didn't say that, but if Israel was being surrounded with certain destruction, I wouldn't put it past them to fire off all their nukes to spite this hateful world.  :pirate:




Israel has been surrounded by almost certain destruction countless times. They have always beat the living shit out of the Muslims and always will beat the shit out of them.




Yea, they beat the shit out of Muslims all right... men, women and children.


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Re: question regarding Israel's supposed "targeted" bombings [Re: d33p]
    #5951551 - 08/10/06 06:35 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

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d33p said:
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bi0 said:
Wait. A neo-conservative apologist defending UN resolutions? Surreal. Why should Lebanon maintain accordance with UN resolutions if Israel does not?





Thats funny

You lie or at least evidence your ignorance and then when Zappa refutes your claim with the appropriate UN source you and Stone try to misrepresent the reason for him sourcing the UN. Now, why would you do that?




I was unaware of the specifics of the UN resolution. Although, it is in the Lebanese constitution (or the equivalent) that allows Hezbollah to serve as a militia force to defend against Israel on the border.

I think it is quite interesting that neo-conservative apologists like Zappaisgod would cry about accordance with UN resolutions when they always bash the UN and disregard other resolutions (particularly dealing with Israel or the US). When UN resolutions fit their agenda, they provide support and chastise those who do not adhere to them.

Right-wingers say that US Constitution has the final jurisdiction over US policy and law, not international organizations like the United Nations. So, why cant Lebanon do the same?


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Re: question regarding Israel's supposed "targeted" bombings [Re: zappaisgod]
    #5951562 - 08/10/06 06:38 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

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Also, they probably have never had any contact with Joooooooos.




Right. My criticism of Israel stems entirely from my insular life.  :rolleyes: Please, if a poll was taken, I probably have lived in more places and known more people than a good percentage of most people.


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Re: question regarding Israel's supposed "targeted" bombings [Re: SirTripAlot]
    #5951591 - 08/10/06 06:46 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

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SirTripAlot said:
Bio Stated : My question is: where does Israel get its information of where the tens of thousands of Hezbollah militia members are located? Do they have spies on the ground and satelities in space tracking every member of the militia?


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You actually not far from the truth. The Mossad (translated into English, it means " The Institute")is one of the most advanced intelligence agencies in existence. In my opinion, depending on the operation, they make the USA's CIA look like Toys R US...




thanks for answering my question.

Now, do you really believe that every single bombing of the near-constant bombardment of neighborhoods throughout Lebanon originated with hard evidence from surveilance of Hezbollah militia (an organzation that is broken up into hundreds of small, nearly-decentralized cells of armed men)? That is quite a feat considering the militia is largely on-the-move (read today's NY Times) and easily blend in with the rest of society.

I think the reality is they had surveillance of the known and obvious Hezbollah locations and neutralized these locations. But, for the majority of the bombings, they bombed on a whim. And, if so, their actions are not so different from Hezbollah firing missiles on a whim into Israel.


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Re: question regarding Israel's supposed "targeted" bombings [Re: Vvellum]
    #5951623 - 08/10/06 06:56 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

You can be as disingenuous and obtuse as you wish. The Lebanese government was expected to secure the Lebanese territory and take control of it, like every government is. The UN can go fuck itself with your whole head for all I care. So now they all get blown to bits because they didn't do what they were supposed to. Or, well, some of them do, and we get faked reports about a lot more of them getting it. And there's no rockets fired into Israel and there was no murder and kidnapping of Israeli troops to start this and there are no Iranian Republican Guards helping the killers and no Iranian supplied missiles and some people are so fucking stupid that it wobbles the mind.

Big clue. Let the poor fucking Jews have their tiny slice of nowhere. The Muslims are not just after Israel, babies. They want you, too. Or have you not been listening? And it doesn't have a fucking thing to do with the Joooooooooooooos.


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Re: question regarding Israel's supposed "targeted" bombings [Re: zappaisgod]
    #5951662 - 08/10/06 07:09 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

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The Lebanese government was expected to secure the Lebanese territory and take control of it, like every government is.




So, every government is supposed to ahere to UN resolutions? Is that your belief?

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Or, well, some of them do, and we get faked reports about a lot more of them getting it.




Besides the two doctored photos and the supposed-massacre (both of which were instantly dismissed), what "fake reports" do you speak of?

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And there's no rockets fired into Israel and there was no murder and kidnapping of Israeli troops to start this and there are no Iranian Republican Guards helping the killers and no Iranian supplied missiles and some people are so fucking stupid that it wobbles the mind.




How are Hezbollah missile attacks any different from Israeli indiscriminate bombings of neighborhoods?

So, killing of troops is not justified, but civilian death is no big deal?

Since when is capturing troops "kidnapping"?

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Let the poor fucking Jews have their tiny slice of nowhere.




Not if it means ethnic cleansing of those not part of the Master Race, err, I mean "Chosen People."

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The Muslims are not just after Israel, babies. They want you, too. Or have you not been listening? And it doesn't have a fucking thing to do with the Joooooooooooooos.




So, all Muslims want to conquer the world? No, you are incorrect. The Islamists in Iran do. Hezbollah just wants to fight Israel - that is what their organization stand for - reistance to Israel, not spreading theocracy. And actions such as those of Israel only galvanize the populace to accept the extremist ideology of the Islamists. If Israel were peaceful, the extremists would be as marginalized and rare as Neo-Nazis and White Power organizations in this the US. Nobody gives a fuck about them.

And you're correct. This has nothing to do with the Jews. This has everything to do with the Zionists and their representatives in the bloody government of Israel.

As for Iran, if the US did not prop up the Shah, the Iranian Revolution would have never happened. Too bad the Neo-Conservatives and their apologists cannot learn from history and are doomed to repeat it.


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InvisibleHank, FTW
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Re: question regarding Israel's supposed "targeted" bombings [Re: downforpot]
    #5951730 - 08/10/06 07:32 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

Quote:

downforpot said:
Quote:

alpharedecho said:
I didn't say that, but if Israel was being surrounded with certain destruction, I wouldn't put it past them to fire off all their nukes to spite this hateful world.  :pirate:




Israel has been surrounded by almost certain destruction countless times. They have always beat the living shit out of the Muslims and always will beat the shit out of them.




What is not registering?? If they beat their asses, it was NOT certain destruction. LOL

Certain destruction means no chance of winning, get it?


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Re: question regarding Israel's supposed "targeted" bombings [Re: Vvellum]
    #5951741 - 08/10/06 07:35 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

Bio stated : Now, do you really believe that every single bombing of the near-constant bombardment of neighborhoods throughout Lebanon originated with hard evidence from surveilance of Hezbollah militia


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No, I do not. But I can say that the vast majority are. If you want to point the finger at the targeting of civilians, you need look no further then Hezbollah themselves. They launch Katushya rockets like cheap Chinese bottle rockets over the Israeli border everyday.


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Re: question regarding Israel's supposed "targeted" bombings [Re: Vvellum]
    #5951816 - 08/10/06 07:50 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

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bi0 said:
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The Lebanese government was expected to secure the Lebanese territory and take control of it, like every government is.




So, every government is supposed to ahere to UN resolutions? Is that your belief?

Every government is expected to GOVERN. Is this so hard for you?

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Or, well, some of them do, and we get faked reports about a lot more of them getting it.




Besides the two doctored photos and the supposed-massacre (both of which were instantly dismissed), what "fake reports" do you speak of?

You are massively ignorant. Or deliberately ignorant. Does the word "Pallywood" mean anything to you? And there is plenty more where that came from. The doctored photos were what? The guys whole portfolio was yanked as a lie. And then the AP got caught. And then there's the whole Green Helmet canard. Please, get informed. And no, I am not posting the same links again. They're there for all who wish to see.

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And there's no rockets fired into Israel and there was no murder and kidnapping of Israeli troops to start this and there are no Iranian Republican Guards helping the killers and no Iranian supplied missiles and some people are so fucking stupid that it wobbles the mind.




How are Hezbollah missile attacks any different from Israeli indiscriminate bombings of neighborhoods?
Frankly, you have never, nor has anyone else, demonstrated that Israel has wasted a single bomb or missile or bullet. They are astonishingly efficient.


So, killing of troops is not justified, but civilian death is no big deal?

Utter clueless nonsense with absolutely no relation to anything I posted.


Since when is capturing troops "kidnapping"?
Hello, McFly. They weren't in a war when the cocksucking goat humper pedophiles decided to cross the border and murder and snatch soldiers who were basicly asleep because there was not supposed to be a gang of thugs just waiting to murder them in what was supposed to be a peaceful country since they relinquished their occupation several years ago. Nope. No war until.....what happened again?

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Let the poor fucking Jews have their tiny slice of nowhere.




Not if it means ethnic cleansing of those not part of the Master Race, err, I mean "Chosen People."
Although I have always had absolutely no patience for the chosen people crap do you have even a fucking shred to support your notion of ethnic cleansing, since Arabs have the vote in Israel, just like any heeb. Some people are just fucking ignorant. Or just hate Joooooos. Or does it just seem to me that they go together a bit much?


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The Muslims are not just after Israel, babies. They want you, too. Or have you not been listening? And it doesn't have a fucking thing to do with the Joooooooooooooos.




So, all Muslims want to conquer the world? No, you are incorrect. The Islamists in Iran do. Hezbollah just wants to fight Israel - that is what their organization stand for - reistance to Israel, not spreading theocracy. And actions such as those of Israel only galvanize the populace to accept the extremist ideology of the Islamists. If Israel were peaceful, the extremists would be as marginalized and rare as Neo-Nazis and White Power organizations in this the US. Nobody gives a fuck about them.

And you're correct. This has nothing to do with the Jews. This has everything to do with the Zionists and their representatives in the bloody government of Israel.

As for Iran, if the US did not prop up the Shah, the Iranian Revolution would have never happened. Too bad the Neo-Conservatives and their apologists cannot learn from history and are doomed to repeat it.




When somebody tells me they want to kill me if I don't convert to their religion I take them at their word. Or didn't you get that message? Because they sure have been screaming it for all to hear. Are you deaf?




The Shah, blah blah blah. If we hadn't "propped" up the Shah maybe the Islamists would have taken over sooner and given the Russians free rein to their oil and an Entree into the mideast that we couldn't counter. How about this. If we hadn't had such a CUNT as president in 1979 we would currently own Iran, since they gave us justification when they took the embassy hostage. If we hadn't this and we hadn't that is a child's argument. Move on. And believe me I don't mean MOVEON. Fucking idiots, them


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Re: question regarding Israel's supposed "targeted" bombings [Re: downforpot]
    #5952627 - 08/10/06 11:49 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

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downforpot said:

The arabs never had a problem with the Jews until Palestine was hijacked? Ok, now you made yourself sound ignorant. THERE WAS NO PALESTINE. EVER. THERE WAS THE OTTOMAN EMPIRE. And the Arabs/Muslims looked at Jews as second class citizens so they DID have a problem with the Jews.

So you are comparing Jews to Nazis? Congrats for being a.... You are like those morons that compare to Bush to Hitler, LOL.






What Israel does to the Palestinians is simular to what Hitler did to the Jews. Obviously it isn't as bad, but its in the same ballpark. Also, the Jews that were in Palestine in the early 1900's might have been resented for migrating into the land, but thats common everywere and the reason they were 2nd class citizens is relative to each individual's opinion. I use the word Palestine not because its historical correct, but because I believe it belongs to the people that owned land there in the 60's (not the Turk's either). From a moral standpoint, I think what Israel did and is doing is wrong, but from a self-preservation standpoint, anything can be justified. The only problem I have is that this should be none of our business, but pro-Israel lobbies and the stupid fucking ADL have strong pull in our country, and it shouldn't be that way. We shouldn't be giving any country $, especially a country that is causing so many problems. Not to mention how bias our media is towards Israel, though I don't expect very much from those entertainment venues that have the nerve to call themselves news. Our country needs to start minding our own fucking business, from the top to the nosey people on the street. Just what I think though.


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Re: question regarding Israel's supposed "targeted" bombings [Re: zappaisgod]
    #5952698 - 08/11/06 12:14 AM (17 years, 5 months ago)

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The Muslims are not just after Israel, babies. They want you, too. Or have you not been listening? And it doesn't have a fucking thing to do with the Joooooooooooooos.




Complete nonsense. Pure scare tactics to make the murder of thousands arab civilians justified. Not in any sane persons wildest dream can they envision a foreseeable future with the arabs on top pushing islam down our throats. Not in 50 years would you see this situation and likely not ever. Half the human race could die out tomorrow and the arabs would still be stuck at the bottom of the shitpile that's left.

Lunatic ramblings like the above quote remind me of a white slave owner in 1870 preaching about the dangers of the evil negros corrupting the white women. There coming after YOU! We must stop this evil menace from spreading!

It's sad people still buy into the fear mongering. At least most of the readers of this site can see past that.


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Re: question regarding Israel's supposed "targeted" bombings [Re: twiggedoubt]
    #5952858 - 08/11/06 01:21 AM (17 years, 5 months ago)

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twiggedoubt said:
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downforpot said:

The arabs never had a problem with the Jews until Palestine was hijacked? Ok, now you made yourself sound ignorant. THERE WAS NO PALESTINE. EVER. THERE WAS THE OTTOMAN EMPIRE. And the Arabs/Muslims looked at Jews as second class citizens so they DID have a problem with the Jews.

So you are comparing Jews to Nazis? Congrats for being a.... You are like those morons that compare to Bush to Hitler, LOL.

 




What Israel does to the Palestinians is simular to what Hitler did to the Jews.  Obviously it isn't as bad, but its in the same ballpark.  Also, the Jews that were in Palestine in the early 1900's might have been resented for migrating into the land, but thats common everywere and the reason they were 2nd class citizens is relative to each individual's opinion.  I use the word Palestine not because its historical correct, but because I believe it belongs to the people that owned land there in the 60's (not the Turk's either).  From a moral standpoint, I think what Israel did and is doing is wrong, but from a self-preservation standpoint, anything can be justified.  The only problem I have is that this should be none of our business, but pro-Israel lobbies and the stupid fucking ADL have strong pull in our country, and it shouldn't be that way.  We shouldn't be giving any country $, especially a country that is causing so many problems.  Not to mention how bias our media is towards Israel, though I don't expect very much from those entertainment venues that have the nerve to call themselves news.  Our country needs to start minding our own fucking business, from the top to the nosey people on the street.  Just what I think though.




The Arabs/Muslims did to the Jews what Hitler did to the Jews.... Jews were always second class citizens in the eyes of Muslims, sooo. Then Jews got fed up and made their own country.

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The Muslims are not just after Israel, babies. They want you, too. Or have you not been listening? And it doesn't have a fucking thing to do with the Joooooooooooooos.




Complete nonsense. Pure scare tactics to make the murder of thousands arab civilians justified. Not in any sane persons wildest dream can they envision a foreseeable future with the arabs on top pushing islam down our throats. Not in 50 years would you see this situation and likely not ever. Half the human race could die out tomorrow and the arabs would still be stuck at the bottom of the shitpile that's left.

Lunatic ramblings like the above quote remind me of a white slave owner in 1870 preaching about the dangers of the evil negros corrupting the white women. There coming after YOU! We must stop this evil menace from spreading!

It's sad people still buy into the fear mongering. At least most of the readers of this site can see past that.





It's a fact that Islamists are trying to re establish the Islamic Caliphate that the West toppled.

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alpharedecho said:
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downforpot said:
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alpharedecho said:
I didn't say that, but if Israel was being surrounded with certain destruction, I wouldn't put it past them to fire off all their nukes to spite this hateful world.  :pirate:




Israel has been surrounded by almost certain destruction countless times. They have always beat the living shit out of the Muslims and always will beat the shit out of them.




What is not registering?? If they beat their asses, it was NOT certain destruction. LOL

Certain destruction means no chance of winning, get it?





So before they are exterminated by the Muslims they shouldn't lunch nukes at them?


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Re: question regarding Israel's supposed "targeted" bombings [Re: downforpot]
    #5952982 - 08/11/06 03:15 AM (17 years, 5 months ago)

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It's a fact that Islamists are trying to re establish the Islamic Caliphate that the West toppled.




You have slyly sidestepped zappa style anti-arab ramblings in favor of a more factual statement that you can stand behind. But your statement still doesn't give zappa's a leg to stand on.

Lets have a look at this nonsense again shall we?

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The Muslims are not just after Israel, babies. They want you, too. Or have you not been listening? And it doesn't have a fucking thing to do with the Joooooooooooooos.





He implies that they want me, you, my neighbor, my dog and my family...oh my. He is implying that they want all of us under an islamic empire...the entire world no less. And that it has nothing to do with the jews (joooooooooos!) coming into their lands in the 60s and killing many of them and kicking them out like they were stray dogs to be kicked. Like they are just suppose to lie down and accept their fate because they lost a war that they did absolutely nothing to bring down upon themselves.

The japanese accepted their fate, they knew their own actions brought it about. As did germany. But this is a whole different situation, this is more like the native americans being pushed farther and farther west. They didn't have a choice nor a leg to stand on to fight back. Sure they could kill some people here and there, but they would never gain any ground. Just like the arabs now, they can kill they enemy, but they never stood a chance from the very beginning. There is a word for that: humiliation. The tactics the arabs use to fight back are a response to being completely humiliated. They were unprepared and unequipped to fight the war thus in response to that their tactics have evolved to make up for it.

In the revolutionary war the british thought the americans were downright despicable dirty cowards for not playing by the accepted war rules of the age. Imagine what the aristocracy in england thought of the colonists tactics? They thought as much of them as the average american thinks of a suicide bomber. Well from my point of view, we are on no more moral high-ground over them than the british were over the colonists in the revolutionary war.

Do people honestly believe for a minute that the arab fighters prefer these tactics? Does anyone think, given the chance they wouldn't prefer air superiority and rows and rows of tanks? They are faced with 2 options. 1) fight back anyway they can or 2) accept humiliation for their complete inability to hold their lands in the face of invasion and occupation due to no action of their own. One could argue the cause of the current conflicts but the arabs did nothing to bring it on in the first place. Obviously, the invasion in the very beginning was the cause for this and any peace in between was nothing more than a cease-fire. It is basically a 40+ year long war.

Don't misunderstand me though, I hold no love for their culture nor their religion. But I think we here in the west have totally lost perspective of this thing due to the bias of the media representation. I don't think the jews control the media either. Just because a jew works for a company or even RUNS a company doesn't mean he is a IDF agent. But I do think christian beliefs are responsible for the media bias. Naive christians (the majority religion in america) believe some misguided idea that the jews are somehow "chosen", making their lives worth more. And by proxy, even christian lives worth more than non-judea originating religions.

Back to the original statement though, that the arabs are trying to recreate long lost empires. Who doesn't have visions of grandeur? Of course they'd like to unite the arab population under one banner in the middle-east. But I'd also like to see the drug laws repealed in my country, doesn't mean it's going to happen now does it? I have visions of a world where there is no profit in war nor reason to fight. Doesn't mean it's going to happen does it?

It is not, nor ever will be possible for an arab empire to unite and control the world. Nor will I believe these nutjob theories that that is their end goal. There IS an empire going on right now and it sure as hell isn't arab. People like you and zappa are so busy being scared of a non-existent arab empirical threat when you have an empirical power controlling most of the worlds resources right in front of your very eyes.

I'd worry far more about the power of the current empire than some arab pipe dream if I were you.


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Re: question regarding Israel's supposed "targeted" bombings [Re: downforpot]
    #5953413 - 08/11/06 10:17 AM (17 years, 5 months ago)

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The arabs never had a problem with the Jews until Palestine was hijacked? Ok, now you made yourself sound ignorant. THERE WAS NO PALESTINE. EVER. THERE WAS THE OTTOMAN EMPIRE. And the Arabs/Muslims looked at Jews as second class citizens so they DID have a problem with the Jews.

So you are comparing Jews to Nazis? Congrats for being a.... You are like those morons that compare to Bush to Hitler, LOL.

 




What Israel does to the Palestinians is simular to what Hitler did to the Jews.  Obviously it isn't as bad, but its in the same ballpark.  Also, the Jews that were in Palestine in the early 1900's might have been resented for migrating into the land, but thats common everywere and the reason they were 2nd class citizens is relative to each individual's opinion.  I use the word Palestine not because its historical correct, but because I believe it belongs to the people that owned land there in the 60's (not the Turk's either).  From a moral standpoint, I think what Israel did and is doing is wrong, but from a self-preservation standpoint, anything can be justified.  The only problem I have is that this should be none of our business, but pro-Israel lobbies and the stupid fucking ADL have strong pull in our country, and it shouldn't be that way.  We shouldn't be giving any country $, especially a country that is causing so many problems.  Not to mention how bias our media is towards Israel, though I don't expect very much from those entertainment venues that have the nerve to call themselves news.  Our country needs to start minding our own fucking business, from the top to the nosey people on the street.  Just what I think though.




The Arabs/Muslims did to the Jews what Hitler did to the Jews.... Jews were always second class citizens in the eyes of Muslims, sooo. Then Jews got fed up and made their own country.

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The Muslims are not just after Israel, babies. They want you, too. Or have you not been listening? And it doesn't have a fucking thing to do with the Joooooooooooooos.




Complete nonsense. Pure scare tactics to make the murder of thousands arab civilians justified. Not in any sane persons wildest dream can they envision a foreseeable future with the arabs on top pushing islam down our throats. Not in 50 years would you see this situation and likely not ever. Half the human race could die out tomorrow and the arabs would still be stuck at the bottom of the shitpile that's left.

Lunatic ramblings like the above quote remind me of a white slave owner in 1870 preaching about the dangers of the evil negros corrupting the white women. There coming after YOU! We must stop this evil menace from spreading!

It's sad people still buy into the fear mongering. At least most of the readers of this site can see past that.





It's a fact that Islamists are trying to re establish the Islamic Caliphate that the West toppled.

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I didn't say that, but if Israel was being surrounded with certain destruction, I wouldn't put it past them to fire off all their nukes to spite this hateful world.  :pirate:




Israel has been surrounded by almost certain destruction countless times. They have always beat the living shit out of the Muslims and always will beat the shit out of them.




What is not registering?? If they beat their asses, it was NOT certain destruction. LOL

Certain destruction means no chance of winning, get it?





So before they are exterminated by the Muslims they shouldn't lunch nukes at them?




Oh I wouldn't care if they launched nukes at the Muslims, but I would if they took the whole world down with them, via nuclear winter, etc.


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