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World Trade Center [Movie]
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I can't believe they made a movie about this. It's even harder for me to believe they actually titled it "World Trade Center." It's great to know that America is so cheap and commercialized that thousands of people will see this movie. I hate how the actors prolly took home more than 90% of us will make in a lifetime by making this movie. I'm not spending $10 so some asshole can make a buck off a national tragedy
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Re: World Trade Center [Movie] [Re: FurrySheep]
#5947636 - 08/09/06 02:47 PM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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i dont think its a bad thing that they made a movie about it...i'll definatly watch it.
did you not know this movie was coming?
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Re: World Trade Center [Movie] [Re: FurrySheep]
#5947637 - 08/09/06 02:47 PM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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as much as i disagree with the idea about making a movie...to ENTERTAIN....based on the most horrific day in the history of the country.....
i have to give oliver stone and nicholas cage my $8.50...because they never tend to dissapoint me.
i think it is an embarassment to all those directly involved in that day....
why do you think there was a wait of nearly 40 years for movies such as 'Saving Private Ryan' and 'Pearl Harbor' to come out....i knew this day would come...but i wouldnt have guessed it would have come out 5 years later...thats way to soon..especially for families that are still grieving such a tragic event.
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Re: World Trade Center [Movie] [Re: FurrySheep]
#5947639 - 08/09/06 02:47 PM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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yeah the whole idea is a crock of shit. I hope it gets boycotted to hell
I'm surprised they didn't release to theaters on September 11
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Re: World Trade Center [Movie] [Re: adamj]
#5947648 - 08/09/06 02:50 PM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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ha.. that wouldve been hilarious if they released it on 9/11
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Re: World Trade Center [Movie] [Re: FurrySheep]
#5947649 - 08/09/06 02:50 PM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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I don't see what the big deal is. Any major historical event is going to have movies based on it, and rest assured this one will not be the last.
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Re: World Trade Center [Movie] [Re: FurrySheep]
#5947652 - 08/09/06 02:51 PM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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That movie is offensive. I hope every movie exec that OK'd that one dies in a horrible plane crash.
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Re: World Trade Center [Movie] [Re: Silversoul]
#5947653 - 08/09/06 02:52 PM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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Silversoul said: I don't see what the big deal is. Any major historical event is going to have movies based on it, and rest assured this one will not be the last.
couldnt agree more
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Re: World Trade Center [Movie] [Re: deadHead321]
#5947663 - 08/09/06 02:55 PM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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deadHead321 said: why do you think there was a wait of nearly 40 years for movies such as 'Saving Private Ryan' and 'Pearl Harbor' to come out....i knew this day would come...but i wouldnt have guessed it would have come out 5 years later...thats way to soon..especially for families that are still grieving such a tragic event.
Uhm, have you ever seen classic movies? They made movies about WWII straight after and even during the war http://www.classicmovies.org/articles/aa041998.htm
I'm gonna see the WTC movie, hope it's a good and serious flick. I thought United 93 was pretty good and emotional.
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Re: World Trade Center [Movie] [Re: FurrySheep]
#5947669 - 08/09/06 02:58 PM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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FurrySheep said: I can't believe they made a movie about this.
would you rather watch one of the 10 bazillion remakes of crappy 70's movies, maybe you prefer the ones based on cartoons like Scooby Do, or maybe movies based on shitty 70's TV shows, hollywood has no original thought any more, in fact, I believe it was a toss up between WTC and Towering Inferno (1974)
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0072308/trailers-screenplay-E12103-10-2
WTC almost seemed like an original idea
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Re: World Trade Center [Movie] [Re: cybrbeast]
#5947674 - 08/09/06 03:02 PM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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cybrbeast said: I'm gonna see the WTC movie, hope it's a good and serious flick.
regardless of what you actualy think of the movie, I suggest storming out and demanding a refund just because it has Nicolas Cage in a staring role
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Re: World Trade Center [Movie] [Re: Prisoner#1]
#5947678 - 08/09/06 03:04 PM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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That's not fair Nicolas Cage has made a few good movies: Adaptation Leaving Las Vegas The Weather Man Lord of War
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Re: World Trade Center [Movie] [Re: cybrbeast]
#5947684 - 08/09/06 03:07 PM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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cybrbeast said: That's not fair Nicolas Cage has made a few good movies: Adaptation Leaving Las Vegas The Weather Man Lord of War
IMO
out of 57 major movies, about 8 were watchable, out of the 57, Nicolas Cage really sucked in all of them
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Re: World Trade Center [Movie] [Re: Prisoner#1]
#5947708 - 08/09/06 03:15 PM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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I think Nicolas Cage acted really good in some of the movies. That many of his movies suck can be said of many actors. Have you seen Robert De Niro's latest work?
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Re: World Trade Center [Movie] [Re: cybrbeast]
#5947721 - 08/09/06 03:20 PM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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cage had an acting double for those movies
andno, I'm not willing to spend $10 for a movie, $4 for popcorn, $4 for a drink just to be dissapointed by a bunch of tools any more, it was bad enough when movies were only $5
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Re: World Trade Center [Movie] [Re: FurrySheep]
#5947722 - 08/09/06 03:21 PM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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FurrySheep said: I'm not spending $10 so some asshole can make a buck off a national tragedy
Oliver Stone's last film, Alexander, was a tragedy in itself.
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The point is that if they're claiming that the purpose of the film is to help the victims of the tragedy, then they should be giving the majority of the proceeds to the vicitims and take a little for themselves for a job well done. Anything else, at least to me, would be hypocritical. But, they're taking in the vast majority of the proceeds and basically giving the victims their spare change. At least that's how it sounds like with the 10%->5% deal. If that's wrong, then I stand corrected, but it's hard to turn 5% into a majority. They're the ones demeaning the purpose of their own film by skimming so much off the top of a noble purpose. "We're here to help the people...but we're taking 95% of the money for ourselves first." Bullshit. These assholes are getting rich.
And I'm not bringing into question what the people involved in making the film do with their money. That's a completely seperate issue. But I don't know why they'd be so afraid to say "Hey, since the sole purpose of this film is to help the victims, I'm going to donate the majority of my earnings to victims." I might as well pay Bill Gates since he's such a philanthropist. (sp?)
And I wasn't all that fond of Titanic either. It was another movie that belittled a tragic event for entertainment purposes, but at least it was done long after the event after all of the wounds healed, and the magnitude of it doesn't even compare to the WTC. The Titanic sank in 1912 - GRANDchildren of those who perished were probably nearing retirement when the movie was made. If they can't recover after that long, then I don't know what to say, but finantial aid isn't going to do them any good.
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Re: World Trade Center [Movie] [Re: FurrySheep]
#5948734 - 08/09/06 08:51 PM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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The fact that people are making money off of this tragedy (whether they are trying to celebrate it or not) is what gets my blood boiling. Yeah people should know what happened but thats what the history channel is for.
Oliver Stone is re-telling a story we all know far too well, the only motive is $$$$
its a movie about making money off of a tragedy that happened 5 years ago. it should be burned.
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Re: World Trade Center [Movie] [Re: FurrySheep]
#5948751 - 08/09/06 08:58 PM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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The only real problem I have is the real Will Jimeno is a fat fuck compared to his movie counterpart
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well idk. I know people who died in WTC and live in the area. I think its definintly very soon but there supposedly giving away some of the $
And I know that they sent firefighters free tickets to see the movie cause my buddy got free tix
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Re: World Trade Center [Movie] [Re: Hitman203]
#5948798 - 08/09/06 09:10 PM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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But the movie is all about COPS
What in hell?
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Re: World Trade Center [Movie] [Re: FurrySheep]
#5948820 - 08/09/06 09:19 PM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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FurrySheep said: The fact that people are making money off of this tragedy (whether they are trying to celebrate it or not) is what gets my blood boiling. Yeah people should know what happened but thats what the history channel is for.
I am almost postive that this movie will attempt to obfuscate many of the facts collected by todays 9/11Truth movement.. 
What a disgrace that would be.
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Re: World Trade Center [Movie] [Re: AlteredAgain]
#5948843 - 08/09/06 09:25 PM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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But didn't you hear GWB after the attacks? We don't have to worry about those wacky conspiracy theories. We just need to chew and swallow what our all-knowing government feeds us about the whole situation.
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Re: World Trade Center [Movie] [Re: FurrySheep]
#5948883 - 08/09/06 09:40 PM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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Grow some balls people, its a movie.
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Re: World Trade Center [Movie] [Re: FurrySheep]
#5949119 - 08/09/06 10:50 PM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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torrent link please.
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Re: World Trade Center [Movie] [Re: DNKYD]
#5949132 - 08/09/06 10:53 PM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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DNKYD said: That movie is offensive. I hope every movie exec that OK'd that one dies in a horrible plane crash.
I dont understand this attitude at all. They made WW2 movies WHILE THE WAR WAS GOING ON.
Name 1 major conflict they havent made a movie about? They made like, 8 about Pearl Harbor, and all those conservatives say 9/11 was the "New Pearl Harbor"
Its been 5 years. How long do you want them to wait? 10? 20?
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so whose seen it, is it propagandic?
what about the united 93?
i mean there is so much controversy about that flight and evidence that makes it real questionable as to whether anything at all happened the way they said it did (for instance the near impossibility of making cell phone calls in the air at that point in time [see loose change]) that why make a film?
i don't know
are we that addicted to tragedy and suffering that we will pay to have our wounds reopened?
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Re: World Trade Center [Movie] [Re: leery11]
#5949214 - 08/09/06 11:19 PM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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So wait...
Your rationale for not making the movie is that we dont know the facts?
Have you seen any of Oliver Stones other films? I hardly think he's a factual-based director.
Kennedy was full of bullshit that almost everyone knows not to be true.
If you dont like it, dont see it. Dont try to legislate morality.
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I feel the same way about this movie as I did about "the Passion of the Christ". The makers of this movie should give away all profits to charity. If they don't, they are raping the corpses of everyone who died that day. Fucking makes me sick!
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Re: World Trade Center [Movie] [Re: EmperorKuzco]
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Wait, Mel Gibson should have given his money to Jews for Jesus, and Oliver Stone should have to give his money to 9/11 victims? What about a movie where they ACTUALLY RAPE CORPSES? Should they have to give they're money to necrophiliacs anonymous?
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Re: World Trade Center [Movie] [Re: Dreamer987]
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All I'm saying is I think its shameful to profit from mass tragedy, especially this soon. And as for Mel Gibson, if he really believed what he preached, he would have given the profits to the poor and disenfranchised people of the earth. WWJD?
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Re: World Trade Center [Movie] [Re: FurrySheep]
#5951250 - 08/10/06 05:22 PM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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FurrySheep said: The point is that if they're claiming that the purpose of the film is to help the victims of the tragedy, then they should be giving the majority of the proceeds to the vicitims and take a little for themselves for a job well done. Anything else, at least to me, would be hypocritical. But, they're taking in the vast majority of the proceeds and basically giving the victims their spare change. At least that's how it sounds like with the 10%->5% deal. If that's wrong, then I stand corrected, but it's hard to turn 5% into a majority. They're the ones demeaning the purpose of their own film by skimming so much off the top of a noble purpose. "We're here to help the people...but we're taking 95% of the money for ourselves first." Bullshit. These assholes are getting rich.
And I'm not bringing into question what the people involved in making the film do with their money. That's a completely seperate issue. But I don't know why they'd be so afraid to say "Hey, since the sole purpose of this film is to help the victims, I'm going to donate the majority of my earnings to victims." I might as well pay Bill Gates since he's such a philanthropist. (sp?)
And I wasn't all that fond of Titanic either. It was another movie that belittled a tragic event for entertainment purposes, but at least it was done long after the event after all of the wounds healed, and the magnitude of it doesn't even compare to the WTC. The Titanic sank in 1912 - GRANDchildren of those who perished were probably nearing retirement when the movie was made. If they can't recover after that long, then I don't know what to say, but finantial aid isn't going to do them any good.
IDK..maybe I just have more cynical view of the world.
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Re: World Trade Center [Movie] [Re: FurrySheep]
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FurrySheep said: The fact that people are making money off of this tragedy (whether they are trying to celebrate it or not) is what gets my blood boiling. Yeah people should know what happened but thats what the history channel is for.
Oliver Stone is re-telling a story we all know far too well, the only motive is $$$$
its a movie about making money off of a tragedy that happened 5 years ago. it should be burned.
boy you are a angstful young thing aren't you. Think you know everything.
I will give it the benefit of the doubt until proven otherwise. I think this film is part of the healing process. We are "talking" about it. We will have a "conversation" about it and heal somewhat through the process. this film from what I have seen, seems to be the Human side of the story, the hero's who were at the scene. Not only that but look from the global perspective and what does this represent? Among other things it is a definite finger to terrorists. not only did they barely make a bump in the economy longterm but Hollywood is the head of what they hate and Hollywood took this tragedy and turned it into a film that godifies the American spirit and cooperation. this is not just a military war obviously.
I am giving it the benefit of the doubt right now that it will be a serious and respectful look at the event. It would be nice to see the actors doing it for free. That is a little disappointing.
We'll see.
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Re: World Trade Center [Movie] [Re: mntlfngrs]
#5951355 - 08/10/06 05:51 PM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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10% of the profits made in this movie are going to 9/11 charities...
this movie made 4.5 mil the first day.. which is 450,000 dollars to the charities...
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Re: World Trade Center [Movie] [Re: AliceDee]
#5951381 - 08/10/06 05:57 PM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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I don't understand what the problem with this movie is. Nobody's forcing you to see it... nobody's chaining you down in a theater or stealing your $10 and giving it to the movie makers. What's the big problem? Here's an idea, if you disagree with the movie, don't fucking see it.
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Re: World Trade Center [Movie] [Re: AliceDee]
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AliceDee said: 10% of the profits made in this movie are going to 9/11 charities...
this movie made 4.5 mil the first day.. which is 450,000 dollars to the charities...
Are you sure that when they say "made on the first day" that they are talking net? As in all the costs of making the movie were paid for plus $4.5mil? tha is what you just said.
I'm pretty sure that $4.5mil is the total revunue that day. tickets sold. And if the charity gets $450,000 out of it then they are getting 10% of gross not net (profit).
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Re: World Trade Center [Movie] [Re: mntlfngrs]
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AliceDee said: 10% of the profits made in this movie are going to 9/11 charities...
this movie made 4.5 mil the first day.. which is 450,000 dollars to the charities...
Are you sure that when they say "made on the first day" that they are talking net? As in all the costs of making the movie were paid for plus $4.5mil? tha is what you just said.
I'm pretty sure that $4.5mil is the total revunue that day. tickets sold. And if the charity gets $450,000 out of it then they are getting 10% of gross not net (profit).
"10% of the profits made in this movie are going to 9/11 charities...
this movie made 4.5 mil the first day.. which is 450,000 dollars to the charities..."
i never said net... please read before you post...
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Re: World Trade Center [Movie] [Re: AliceDee]
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AliceDee said: 10% of the profits made in this movie are going to 9/11 charities...
this movie made 4.5 mil the first day.. which is 450,000 dollars to the charities...
Are you sure that when they say "made on the first day" that they are talking net? As in all the costs of making the movie were paid for plus $4.5mil? tha is what you just said.
I'm pretty sure that $4.5mil is the total revunue that day. tickets sold. And if the charity gets $450,000 out of it then they are getting 10% of gross not net (profit).
"10% of the profits made in this movie are going to 9/11 charities...
this movie made 4.5 mil the first day.. which is 450,000 dollars to the charities..."
i never said net... please read before you post...
Gross - costs = net = profit. net=profit=net. and like I said, made 4.5 could mean gross revenue.
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