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OfflineHyper_Panda_GO
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Re: World Trade Center [Movie] [Re: Hitman203]
    #5948798 - 08/09/06 09:10 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

But the movie is all about COPS

What in hell?


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Re: World Trade Center [Movie] [Re: FurrySheep]
    #5948820 - 08/09/06 09:19 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

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The fact that people are making money off of this tragedy (whether they are trying to celebrate it or not) is what gets my blood boiling. Yeah people should know what happened but thats what the history channel is for.




I am almost postive that this movie will attempt to obfuscate many of the facts collected by todays 9/11Truth movement.. :nonono:

What a disgrace that would be.


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Re: World Trade Center [Movie] [Re: AlteredAgain]
    #5948843 - 08/09/06 09:25 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

But didn't you hear GWB after the attacks? We don't have to worry about those wacky conspiracy theories. We just need to chew and swallow what our all-knowing government feeds us about the whole situation.


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Re: World Trade Center [Movie] [Re: FurrySheep]
    #5948883 - 08/09/06 09:40 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

Grow some balls people, its a movie.
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Re: World Trade Center [Movie] [Re: FurrySheep]
    #5949119 - 08/09/06 10:50 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

torrent link please.


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Re: World Trade Center [Movie] [Re: DNKYD]
    #5949132 - 08/09/06 10:53 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

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That movie is offensive. I hope every movie exec that OK'd that one dies in a horrible plane crash.




I dont understand this attitude at all. They made WW2 movies WHILE THE WAR WAS GOING ON.

Name 1 major conflict they havent made a movie about? They made like, 8 about Pearl Harbor, and all those conservatives say 9/11 was the "New Pearl Harbor"

Its been 5 years. How long do you want them to wait? 10? 20?


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Re: World Trade Center [Movie] [Re: Madtowntripper]
    #5949209 - 08/09/06 11:17 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

so whose seen it, is it propagandic?

what about the united 93?

i mean there is so much controversy about that flight and evidence that makes it real questionable as to whether anything at all happened the way they said it did (for instance the near impossibility of making cell phone calls in the air at that point in time [see loose change]) that why make a film?

i don't know

are we that addicted to tragedy and suffering that we will pay to have our wounds reopened?


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Re: World Trade Center [Movie] [Re: leery11]
    #5949214 - 08/09/06 11:19 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

So wait...

Your rationale for not making the movie is that we dont know the facts?

Have you seen any of Oliver Stones other films? I hardly think he's a factual-based director.

Kennedy was full of bullshit that almost everyone knows not to be true.

If you dont like it, dont see it. Dont try to legislate morality.


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Re: World Trade Center [Movie] [Re: Madtowntripper]
    #5949778 - 08/10/06 05:49 AM (17 years, 5 months ago)

I feel the same way about this movie as I did about "the Passion of the Christ". The makers of this movie should give away all profits to charity. If they don't, they are raping the corpses of everyone who died that day. Fucking makes me sick!


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Re: World Trade Center [Movie] [Re: EmperorKuzco]
    #5949856 - 08/10/06 07:44 AM (17 years, 5 months ago)

Wait, Mel Gibson should have given his money to Jews for Jesus, and Oliver Stone should have to give his money to 9/11 victims?
What about a movie where they ACTUALLY RAPE CORPSES? Should they have to give they're money to necrophiliacs anonymous?


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Re: World Trade Center [Movie] [Re: Dreamer987]
    #5951200 - 08/10/06 05:03 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

All I'm saying is I think its shameful to profit from mass tragedy, especially this soon. And as for Mel Gibson, if he really believed what he preached, he would have given the profits to the poor and disenfranchised people of the earth. WWJD?


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Re: World Trade Center [Movie] [Re: FurrySheep]
    #5951250 - 08/10/06 05:22 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

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The point is that if they're claiming that the purpose of the film is to help the victims of the tragedy, then they should be giving the majority of the proceeds to the vicitims and take a little for themselves for a job well done. Anything else, at least to me, would be hypocritical. But, they're taking in the vast majority of the proceeds and basically giving the victims their spare change. At least that's how it sounds like with the 10%->5% deal. If that's wrong, then I stand corrected, but it's hard to turn 5% into a majority. They're the ones demeaning the purpose of their own film by skimming so much off the top of a noble purpose. "We're here to help the people...but we're taking 95% of the money for ourselves first." Bullshit. These assholes are getting rich.

And I'm not bringing into question what the people involved in making the film do with their money. That's a completely seperate issue. But I don't know why they'd be so afraid to say "Hey, since the sole purpose of this film is to help the victims, I'm going to donate the majority of my earnings to victims." I might as well pay Bill Gates since he's such a philanthropist. (sp?)

And I wasn't all that fond of Titanic either. It was another movie that belittled a tragic event for entertainment purposes, but at least it was done long after the event after all of the wounds healed, and the magnitude of it doesn't even compare to the WTC. The Titanic sank in 1912 - GRANDchildren of those who perished were probably nearing retirement when the movie was made. If they can't recover after that long, then I don't know what to say, but finantial aid isn't going to do them any good.

IDK..maybe I just have more cynical view of the world.




% of gross or net. you must ask the right questions.if it is gross then they will get something no matter what an the movie company could take a loss.Any percent og gross is pretty good.


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Re: World Trade Center [Movie] [Re: FurrySheep]
    #5951328 - 08/10/06 05:44 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

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FurrySheep said:
The fact that people are making money off of this tragedy (whether they are trying to celebrate it or not) is what gets my blood boiling. Yeah people should know what happened but thats what the history channel is for.

Oliver Stone is re-telling a story we all know far too well, the only motive is $$$$

its a movie about making money off of a tragedy that happened 5 years ago. it should be burned.




boy you are a angstful young thing aren't you. Think you know everything.


I will give it the benefit of the doubt until proven otherwise. I think this film is part of the healing process. We are "talking" about it. We will have a "conversation" about it and heal somewhat through the process. this film from what I have seen, seems to be the Human side of the story, the hero's who were at the scene. Not only that but look from the global perspective and what does this represent? Among other things it is a definite finger to terrorists. not only did they barely make a bump in the economy longterm but Hollywood is the head of what they hate and Hollywood took this tragedy and turned it into a film that godifies the American spirit and cooperation. this is not just a military war obviously.

I am giving it the benefit of the doubt right now that it will be a serious and respectful look at the event.
It would be nice to see the actors doing it for free. That is a little disappointing.

We'll see.


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Re: World Trade Center [Movie] [Re: mntlfngrs]
    #5951355 - 08/10/06 05:51 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

10% of the profits made in this movie are going to 9/11 charities...

this movie made 4.5 mil the first day.. which is 450,000 dollars to the charities...


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Re: World Trade Center [Movie] [Re: AliceDee]
    #5951381 - 08/10/06 05:57 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

I don't understand what the problem with this movie is. Nobody's forcing you to see it... nobody's chaining you down in a theater or stealing your $10 and giving it to the movie makers. What's the big problem? Here's an idea, if you disagree with the movie, don't fucking see it.  :strokebeard:


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Re: World Trade Center [Movie] [Re: AliceDee]
    #5951411 - 08/10/06 06:03 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

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10% of the profits made in this movie are going to 9/11 charities...

this movie made 4.5 mil the first day.. which is 450,000 dollars to the charities...




Are you sure that when they say "made on the first day" that they are talking net? As in all the costs of making the movie were paid for plus $4.5mil? tha is what you just said.

I'm pretty sure that $4.5mil is the total revunue that day. tickets sold. And if the charity gets $450,000 out of it then they are getting 10% of gross not net (profit).


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Re: World Trade Center [Movie] [Re: mntlfngrs]
    #5951594 - 08/10/06 06:46 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

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AliceDee said:
10% of the profits made in this movie are going to 9/11 charities...

this movie made 4.5 mil the first day.. which is 450,000 dollars to the charities...




Are you sure that when they say "made on the first day" that they are talking net? As in all the costs of making the movie were paid for plus $4.5mil? tha is what you just said.

I'm pretty sure that $4.5mil is the total revunue that day. tickets sold. And if the charity gets $450,000 out of it then they are getting 10% of gross not net (profit).




"10% of the profits made in this movie are going to 9/11 charities...

this movie made 4.5 mil the first day.. which is 450,000 dollars to the charities..."

i never said net... please read before you post...


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Re: World Trade Center [Movie] [Re: AliceDee]
    #5951705 - 08/10/06 07:23 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

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AliceDee said:
Quote:

mntlfngrs said:
Quote:

AliceDee said:
10% of the profits made in this movie are going to 9/11 charities...

this movie made 4.5 mil the first day.. which is 450,000 dollars to the charities...




Are you sure that when they say "made on the first day" that they are talking net? As in all the costs of making the movie were paid for plus $4.5mil? tha is what you just said.

I'm pretty sure that $4.5mil is the total revunue that day. tickets sold. And if the charity gets $450,000 out of it then they are getting 10% of gross not net (profit).




"10% of the profits made in this movie are going to 9/11 charities...

this movie made 4.5 mil the first day.. which is 450,000 dollars to the charities..."

i never said net... please read before you post...




Gross - costs = net = profit.
net=profit=net. and like I said, made 4.5 could mean gross revenue.

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