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Natural mdma aproximation
    #5947376 - 08/09/06 01:17 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

Here is a good one:

From Tihkal:

WITH MESCALINE

(with 100 mg harmaline, 60 mg mescaline (3,4,5-trimethoxyphenethylamine) [20 min]) "At two hours I was in a pleasant state of physical relaxation, a fine sense of well being, and I found music most enjoyable. From then to the fourth hour, thoughts flowed freely, and it became obvious that insight was a major part of this experience. Normally unconscious thoughts were easily available. It was as if I could observe my mind in operation, as facts were weighed to form conclusions. By the sixth hour music was a thing of beauty, with the higher notes crisp and clear. The harmaline has probably worn off. Sleep at eight hours, and the next day was without any adverse effects. This was a remarkable experience, the insight of TMA, and the relaxation of MDMA."

I would like to aproximate this expirience with san perdoch and syrian rue. Please give me some aproximations of how much san pedroh and s.rue will yield aprox. 100mg of haramaline/harmine and 60 mg mescaline.

And if anyone has tried it or is willing to try it, please let me know your experience.

Thanks


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Re: Natural mdma aproximation [Re: Moli]
    #5947399 - 08/09/06 01:23 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

syrian rue contains 3-7% harmaline alkaloids (including harmine and tetrahydroharmine)

san pedro varies alot, i found the number 0.82% in dry weight but its impossible to tell


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Re: Natural mdma aproximation [Re: shamantra]
    #5947608 - 08/09/06 02:39 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

For trichocereus, it is largely dependant (if you're going by dry weight) on the type of cactus flesh it is. If it's all green, you will obviously have a much better yield than if there is a bit of white in it, or as some vendors do: half white, half green.

Of good stuff, I'd say 6g of cactus would be a good place to start. With dosages that low, repeated trials should be easy and inexpensive.


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Re: Natural mdma aproximation [Re: Koala Koolio]
    #5959518 - 08/13/06 03:05 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

Correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't cactus (not mescaline) react violently with maoi's?


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Re: Natural mdma aproximation [Re: ngnyus]
    #5959620 - 08/13/06 03:54 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

cactus contains tyramine in various degress and tyramine (a monoamine compound )should be avoidet with a MAOi, tyramine is in alot of food also probably the whole avoid to eat list for MAOi.


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