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Developing a super memory?
#5947162 - 08/09/06 11:43 AM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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I want to be able to have a really really good memory.
I've seen people on video be able to remember things like a random order of playing cards or very long numbers, mathematical equations, story's etc. that seems very handy.
HOW can i develop a memory this good?
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excerise...
your mind that is...
practice...
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Re: Developing a super memory? [Re: Jim]
#5947172 - 08/09/06 11:49 AM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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before anyone sais it..i don't smoke weed.
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Re: Developing a super memory? [Re: Jim]
#5947180 - 08/09/06 11:54 AM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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About this idea. Would reading lots be a good way of developing super memory? In the past four months I've read about 10 Novels and a number of large documentaries (novels are generally 400-600pages long).
Let's just say I have a very very boring job and the only thing I can do is read...
I think it's becoming a decent way to have a super memory in aspects of knowledge. But here's a question? How you you develop a super photographic memory? Or both? I'd be interested in that, but then again I live in my past too much, I probably shouldn't figure out a way to do that. :P
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i don't think it matters if you smoke weed or not.
as long as i'm not high at the time, (and even that has a negligble effect) i seem to be able to remember some pretty detailed and complex things like long conversations verbatim, stories, news articles, and really long orders at the restaurant i work at. practice definately helps build this skill, but i think i may have been born this way.
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Re: Developing a super memory? [Re: Maverick]
#5947225 - 08/09/06 12:10 PM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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I read all the time, but my memmory is pretty terrible. I also smoke weed and drink booze, which I'm sure don't help.
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Re: Developing a super memory? [Re: TODAY]
#5947312 - 08/09/06 12:48 PM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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I think it's more of a matter of having a photographic memory more than having a GOOD memory... i mean those people can prolly remember big long numbers and stuf and the order of cards but for how long? In anycase i don't think a hptographic or good memory is something you can develop, you either have it or don't
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Re: Developing a super memory? [Re: TODAY]
#5947316 - 08/09/06 12:49 PM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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another cool thing to develop would be speed reading.
Imagine being able to read a whole book quickly AND remember what it was all about
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Do lots of puzzles.
Not crosswords and shit .. I mean hard puzzles and mathematical puzzles. Do it for an hour a day for a week, and by the end you'll notice you'll be able to remember more, and do math etc a lot quicker.
I do this sorta thing a few weeks before I need to get revising for exams and it definately helps
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Quote:
scottunderflesh said: HOW can i develop a memory this good?
remember things and maybe stop forgetting stuff
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Re: Developing a super memory? [Re: Aninator]
#5947950 - 08/09/06 04:54 PM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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AniNator said: you either have it or don't
there are some tricks you can learn to help you remember things but as people have mentioned just working your mind by reading and doing puzzles like crypro or math puzzles will actualy improve renention
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Well as I see it now their are only two effectve ways to get a really really good memory.
Be born an autistic savant like:
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Kim Peek
According to Peek's father, Fran, Peek was able to memorize things from the age of 16-20 months. He read books, memorized them and then placed them upside down on the shelf to show that he had finished reading them, a practice he still maintains. He reads a page of text in about 10 seconds (about a book per hour) and, apparently, remembers everything he has read, memorizing vast amounts of information in subjects ranging from history and literature, geography and numbers, to sports, music and dates. He can recall some 12,000 books from memory. Peek can also do formidable calculations in his head, a skill that serves him well in his day job, where he prepares payroll worksheets. He has worked at a day workshop for adults with disabilities since 1969.
Although never a musical prodigy, Peek's musical abilities as an adult are receiving more notice now that he has started to study the piano. He apparently remembers music he heard decades ago and can play it on the piano, to the extent permitted by his limited physical dexterity. He is able to give running spoken commentary on the music as he plays, comparing a piece of music, for example, to other music he has heard. In listening to recordings he can distinguish which instruments play which part and is adept at guessing the composers of new music by comparing the music to the many thousands of music samples in his memory.
Or have very precise seizures and be like
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One afternoon when he was four, an accident changed the way Daniel thought forever. While playing with his brother in the living room he suffered a series of epileptic seizures which transformed his brain chemistry, giving him the gift of synaesthesia. Daniel began to respond emotionally to numbers, which he started to ‘see’ as complex, beautiful shapes and textures. Tammet holds the European record for remembering and recounting pi, recounting it to its 22,514th digit in just over 5 hours. Tammet claims he can learn a new language within a week. For the documentary film about him, Tammet was challenged to learn Icelandic. Within seven days he was conversing well enough in Icelandic to undergo a live television interview about his skills, and chat freely with the hosts. He is fortunate in that, while he possesses many of the capabilities associated with autism, he has no trouble relating to others; he is a charming and incredibly self-aware young man.
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I read a magazine article on this awhile ago, but I can't remember it all...
Two things you can do are to play with a deck of cards while doing something else, and sitting on an exercise ball while watching TV.
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Re: Developing a super memory? [Re: cybrbeast]
#5947975 - 08/09/06 05:01 PM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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It's too bad that the talent all goes to waste.
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Re: Developing a super memory? [Re: Prisoner#1]
#5947982 - 08/09/06 05:03 PM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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I have a ebook called "How to Develop Super Power Memory", I haven't read it yet though. I don't know how to upload to this site .I got it off Demonoid, if you don't have an account there I can get you a registraition code.
http://www.demonoid.com/files/details/384864/3955564/
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I was bored at work so I opened the PC's calculator and started to memorize pi ... it took some time but I can recite more than it will show on screen.. that's at least 30 digits
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Re: Developing a super memory? [Re: LazyGnome]
#5948036 - 08/09/06 05:17 PM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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You just have to practice and know the shortcuts. Look up the world championships of memorization. Its all average people who just practice all the time. Its really just a worthless parlor trick.
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Re: Developing a super memory? [Re: cybrbeast]
#5948055 - 08/09/06 05:22 PM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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I watch the History & Discovery channels a lot and they play a show about that kind of stuff.. that guy that had the seizure was on it and so was Raymond _____(Rain Man). Rain man reads the left page of a book w/ his left eye and the right w/ his right... at the same time... people like that are pretty interesting.
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ginseng and fish can help...
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Re: Developing a super memory? [Re: cybrbeast]
#5948072 - 08/09/06 05:26 PM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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Quote:
cybrbeast said: Well as I see it now their are only two effectve ways to get a really really good memory.
Be born an autistic savant like:
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Kim Peek
According to Peek's father, Fran, Peek was able to memorize things from the age of 16-20 months. He read books, memorized them and then placed them upside down on the shelf to show that he had finished reading them, a practice he still maintains. He reads a page of text in about 10 seconds (about a book per hour) and, apparently, remembers everything he has read, memorizing vast amounts of information in subjects ranging from history and literature, geography and numbers, to sports, music and dates. He can recall some 12,000 books from memory. Peek can also do formidable calculations in his head, a skill that serves him well in his day job, where he prepares payroll worksheets. He has worked at a day workshop for adults with disabilities since 1969.
Although never a musical prodigy, Peek's musical abilities as an adult are receiving more notice now that he has started to study the piano. He apparently remembers music he heard decades ago and can play it on the piano, to the extent permitted by his limited physical dexterity. He is able to give running spoken commentary on the music as he plays, comparing a piece of music, for example, to other music he has heard. In listening to recordings he can distinguish which instruments play which part and is adept at guessing the composers of new music by comparing the music to the many thousands of music samples in his memory.
Or have very precise seizures and be like
Quote:
Daniel Tammet
One afternoon when he was four, an accident changed the way Daniel thought forever. While playing with his brother in the living room he suffered a series of epileptic seizures which transformed his brain chemistry, giving him the gift of synaesthesia. Daniel began to respond emotionally to numbers, which he started to ‘see’ as complex, beautiful shapes and textures. Tammet holds the European record for remembering and recounting pi, recounting it to its 22,514th digit in just over 5 hours. Tammet claims he can learn a new language within a week. For the documentary film about him, Tammet was challenged to learn Icelandic. Within seven days he was conversing well enough in Icelandic to undergo a live television interview about his skills, and chat freely with the hosts. He is fortunate in that, while he possesses many of the capabilities associated with autism, he has no trouble relating to others; he is a charming and incredibly self-aware young man.
fuckin unbelievable
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As others have said it all about practice. And also remember, there are 2 distinct types of memory, short-term and long-term. You can develop and work on either one.
Take me, for example... My short-term memory is kinda crappy. I forget peoples names almost within seconds of meeting them. And I have to make a list when I go to the store or I'll forget an item every time, even if I'm only getting a couple things. However, I have developed my talent for memorizing long peices of poetry and remembering them indefinately (this is long-term memory). At any time you can walk up and ask me to recite something and I could begin to spout poetry and not stop for hours. Some of it is my own works, but most of it is from famous authors.
My talent for poetry did not come without work. I go through a pretty strict regiment to memorize and drive a peice of poetry deep into my long-term memory. A poem that takes about 10 minutes to recite takes just a few days to put it in my head and throw away the paper copy. Then I have to recite it to myself or others at least once a day for a few weeks. After that I try to do it once a week or so for the next couple months. If I can still recall it with no trouble after a year then its pretty safe I've got it for good, but if I start to forget sections or trip up after not reciting a poem for a long time then I might have to go back and brush up on it. Nothing lasts forever.
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Re: Developing a super memory? [Re: CosmicFool]
#5948283 - 08/09/06 06:31 PM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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CosmicFool said: I was bored at work so I opened the PC's calculator and started to memorize pi ... it took some time but I can recite more than it will show on screen.. that's at least 30 digits
Train a little harder and you migh get to the 22,514th digit
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Re: Developing a super memory? [Re: eligal]
#5948300 - 08/09/06 06:35 PM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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eligal said: fuckin unbelievable
And then Alexis Lemaire comes along Quote:
(born 1980), is said by the Sunday Telegraph and The Times newspapers to be "the greatest human calculator in history" (8 April 2005). Lemaire holds the last official world record for extracting the 13th root of a 100-digit number (13.55 seconds) and the last official world record for extracting the 13th root of a 200-digit number (267.77 seconds). The latter is a calculation known as the most difficult in history.
The 13th root of a 100-digit number is something my graphing calculator can't do
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Re: Developing a super memory? [Re: cybrbeast]
#5949325 - 08/09/06 11:40 PM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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I picked up a copy of this book at the second hand store: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0345410025/002-6124341-3852038?v=glance&n=283155
The premise is basically this: to remember things, you've got to associate the memory with something powerful or silly. This (my observation) is why certain smells or songs or stupid words bring back certain memories.
Check it out. Great memory is basically a parlor trick, but a damn useful one.
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read up on memory strategies
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Re: Developing a super memory? [Re: stefan]
#5949442 - 08/10/06 12:31 AM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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There really is no proven way to develop your memory.
It really is a matter of either you have it, or you don't.
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Re: Developing a super memory? [Re: Derelict]
#5949448 - 08/10/06 12:33 AM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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Derelict said: I picked up a copy of this book at the second hand store: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0345410025/002-6124341-3852038?v=glance&n=283155
The premise is basically this: to remember things, you've got to associate the memory with something powerful or silly. This (my observation) is why certain smells or songs or stupid words bring back certain memories.
Check it out. Great memory is basically a parlor trick, but a damn useful one.
I disagree. Great memory is only a parlor trick if you use it that way (i.e. that new show, Psych) but most people DON'T use it like that.
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Re: Developing a super memory? [Re: Lily_Morgan]
#5949476 - 08/10/06 12:45 AM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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There really is no proven way to develop your memory.
It really is a matter of either you have it, or you don't.
but if you learn to use what you have better you will improve.
for example try to remember this number 876308562345 now that's hard.
but if you remember it this way: 876 308 562 345, in chunks, (it's actually called chunking ) it's suddenly a lot easier. A good example of a very simple strategy that everyone uses, think about phone numers for example (back when you didn't have a cellphone yet )
And ofcoarse there are many more strategies to help you remember things...
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Re: Developing a super memory? [Re: stefan]
#5952233 - 08/10/06 10:20 PM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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Okay, maybe parlor trick wasn't the right word. However, the strategies in the book do allow you to perform fun parlor tricks on your friends. One is this: have a friend name 20 things totally unrelated. She may write them down, but you cannot. You only get to hear them a time or two.
Lets say the first three are carrot, airplane, and earring. Whatcha do is associate stuff in a ridiculous manner... think of your friend's head as a carrot. Okay, every time she talks, airplanes fly out of her mouth. They're silver airplanes, and when you look closer, you realize they're wearing GOLD earrings. How dare they! you think to yourself.
So you keep going with the list. Each item, you make a specific and ridiculous association. Association is the key here.
Also, this is a great great great thing to do while tripping! Except, you don't do it to remember stuff, only to create a damn funny picture in the mind of yourself and your fellow traveler.
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Re: Developing a super memory? [Re: cybrbeast]
#5952315 - 08/10/06 10:40 PM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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It's also too bad that Daniel has lost other abilities that most people would not trade for his enhanced ones. He cannot for example go to super markets because there is simply too much stuff that he cannot contain himself. He is *scared* to go to *super markets*. I'm sorry, but counting to pi or being able to do any calcualtion or learn a language in a week is just not worth it in lue of his limitations.
Whenever I read about savants, I can't help but relating their brains to a computer hard drive. I imagine the brain being partitioned like a HDD between social skills and intellectual skills. It seems that when their intellectual skills grow so vast, their 'partition' for social skills has no choice but to downsize.
My great uncle knew 11 languages fluently and taught most of them as a professor. He was however slightly out of it. He eventually ended up in an institution in his later years. Like him, languages are the one thing that captivates me more than anything. However, I consider myself *lucky* to have not also inherited his gift to so easily learn and retain them.
It's funny, despite how much we may want these gifts, I'm sure most savants envy us.
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quit smoking weed it helps, but i noticed if you drink a lot your short term memory is just as fucked, hey I drink everyday...hey I know fried brain cells..
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have you heard of the philosopher's stone? its called white gold.... monoatomic gold. interesting...
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