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OfflineToTheSummit
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Re: Developing a super memory? [Re: DistortedEyes]
    #5948165 - 08/09/06 05:53 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

As others have said it all about practice. And also remember, there are 2 distinct types of memory, short-term and long-term. You can develop and work on either one.

Take me, for example...
My short-term memory is kinda crappy. I forget peoples names almost within seconds of meeting them. And I have to make a list when I go to the store or I'll forget an item every time, even if I'm only getting a couple things. However, I have developed my talent for memorizing long peices of poetry and remembering them indefinately (this is long-term memory). At any time you can walk up and ask me to recite something and I could begin to spout poetry and not stop for hours. Some of it is my own works, but most of it is from famous authors.

My talent for poetry did not come without work. I go through a pretty strict regiment to memorize and drive a peice of poetry deep into my long-term memory. A poem that takes about 10 minutes to recite takes just a few days to put it in my head and throw away the paper copy. Then I have to recite it to myself or others at least once a day for a few weeks. After that I try to do it once a week or so for the next couple months. If I can still recall it with no trouble after a year then its pretty safe I've got it for good, but if I start to forget sections or trip up after not reciting a poem for a long time then I might have to go back and brush up on it. Nothing lasts forever.


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Re: Developing a super memory? [Re: CosmicFool]
    #5948283 - 08/09/06 06:31 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

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I was bored at work so I opened the PC's calculator and started to memorize pi ... it took some time but I can recite more than it will show on screen.. that's at least 30 digits



Train a little harder and you migh get to the 22,514th digit  :tongue:


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Re: Developing a super memory? [Re: eligal]
    #5948300 - 08/09/06 06:35 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

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eligal said:
fuckin unbelievable  :eek:




And then Alexis Lemaire comes along
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(born 1980), is said by the Sunday Telegraph and The Times newspapers to be "the greatest human calculator in history" (8 April 2005). Lemaire holds the last official world record for extracting the 13th root of a 100-digit number (13.55 seconds) and the last official world record for extracting the 13th root of a 200-digit number (267.77 seconds). The latter is a calculation known as the most difficult in history.




The 13th root of a 100-digit number is something my graphing calculator can't do :eek:


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Re: Developing a super memory? [Re: cybrbeast]
    #5949325 - 08/09/06 11:40 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

I picked up a copy of this book at the second hand store:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0345410025/002-6124341-3852038?v=glance&n=283155

The premise is basically this: to remember things, you've got to associate the memory with something powerful or silly. This (my observation) is why certain smells or songs or stupid words bring back certain memories.

Check it out. Great memory is basically a parlor trick, but a damn useful one.


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Re: Developing a super memory? [Re: DistortedEyes]
    #5949437 - 08/10/06 12:28 AM (17 years, 5 months ago)

read up on memory strategies :thumbup:


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Re: Developing a super memory? [Re: stefan]
    #5949442 - 08/10/06 12:31 AM (17 years, 5 months ago)

There really is no proven way to develop your memory.

It really is a matter of either you have it, or you don't.


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Re: Developing a super memory? [Re: Derelict]
    #5949448 - 08/10/06 12:33 AM (17 years, 5 months ago)

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Derelict said:
I picked up a copy of this book at the second hand store:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0345410025/002-6124341-3852038?v=glance&n=283155

The premise is basically this: to remember things, you've got to associate the memory with something powerful or silly. This (my observation) is why certain smells or songs or stupid words bring back certain memories.

Check it out. Great memory is basically a parlor trick, but a damn useful one.




I disagree.  Great memory is only a parlor trick if you use it that way (i.e. that new show, Psych) but most people DON'T use it like that.


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Re: Developing a super memory? [Re: Lily_Morgan]
    #5949476 - 08/10/06 12:45 AM (17 years, 5 months ago)

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There really is no proven way to develop your memory.

It really is a matter of either you have it, or you don't.



but if you learn to use what you have better you will improve.

for example try to remember this number 876308562345
now that's hard.

but if you remember it this way: 876 308 562 345, in chunks, (it's actually called chunking :smirk:) it's suddenly a lot easier. A good example of a very simple strategy that everyone uses, think about phone numers for example (back when you didn't have a cellphone yet :tongue:)

And ofcoarse there are many more strategies to help you remember things...


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Re: Developing a super memory? [Re: stefan]
    #5952233 - 08/10/06 10:20 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

Okay, maybe parlor trick wasn't the right word. However, the strategies in the book do allow you to perform fun parlor tricks on your friends. One is this: have a friend name 20 things totally unrelated. She may write them down, but you cannot. You only get to hear them a time or two.

Lets say the first three are carrot, airplane, and earring. Whatcha do is associate stuff in a ridiculous manner... think of your friend's head as a carrot. Okay, every time she talks, airplanes fly out of her mouth. They're silver airplanes, and when you look closer, you realize they're wearing GOLD earrings. How dare they! you think to yourself.

So you keep going with the list. Each item, you make a specific and ridiculous association. Association is the key here.

Also, this is a great great great thing to do while tripping! Except, you don't do it to remember stuff, only to create a damn funny picture in the mind of yourself and your fellow traveler.


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Re: Developing a super memory? [Re: cybrbeast]
    #5952315 - 08/10/06 10:40 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

It's also too bad that Daniel has lost other abilities that most people would not trade for his enhanced ones. He cannot for example go to super markets because there is simply too much stuff that he cannot contain himself. He is *scared* to go to *super markets*. I'm sorry, but counting to pi or being able to do any calcualtion or learn a language in a week is just not worth it in lue of his limitations.

Whenever I read about savants, I can't help but relating their brains to a computer hard drive. I imagine the brain being partitioned like a HDD between social skills and intellectual skills. It seems that when their intellectual skills grow so vast, their 'partition' for social skills has no choice but to downsize.

My great uncle knew 11 languages fluently and taught most of them as a professor. He was however slightly out of it. He eventually ended up in an institution in his later years. Like him, languages are the one thing that captivates me more than anything. However, I consider myself *lucky* to have not also inherited his gift to so easily learn and retain them.

It's funny, despite how much we may want these gifts, I'm sure most savants envy us.


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Re: Developing a super memory? [Re: DistortedEyes]
    #5952340 - 08/10/06 10:45 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

quit smoking weed it helps, but i noticed if you drink a lot your short term memory is just as fucked, hey I drink everyday...hey I know fried brain cells..:lol:


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Re: Developing a super memory? [Re: DistortedEyes]
    #5953133 - 08/11/06 06:32 AM (17 years, 5 months ago)

have you heard of the philosopher's stone? its called white gold.... monoatomic gold. interesting...


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