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9/11 Happened.. Bush is Just a Fucking Natzi
#5942988 - 08/08/06 01:17 AM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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Lets throw out all the crap and all the theories.. If in fact they arent the same thing 
If 9/11 didnt happen would we be in any of a different situation?
Bush is just a war mongering fool who believes in throwing resources and money at HIS problems to take care of them.
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Re: 9/11 Happened.. Bush is Just a Fucking Natzi [Re: GabbaDj]
#5943021 - 08/08/06 01:29 AM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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GabbaDj said: If 9/11 didnt happen would we be in any of a different situation?
Most likely. It took an event like 9/11 for Bush to get the unquestioning support he needed to implement the neoconservative imperialistic agenda. Fortunately, his political capital from having such a monstrous disaster happen under his watch is running out, and I think most Americans are finally waking up to just how lousy a president he is.
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Re: 9/11 Happened.. Bush is Just a Fucking Natzi [Re: GabbaDj]
#5943051 - 08/08/06 01:49 AM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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I still don't believe bush is anything more than a puppet. His daddy and their friends are pulling the strings. Just stop and think for one moment...what would bush's life amounted to without his daddy?
They sure have fucked things up though, sad to think what we are in for in the near future.
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Re: 9/11 Happened.. Bush is Just a Fucking Natzi [Re: RosettaStoned]
#5943234 - 08/08/06 04:21 AM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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> I still don't believe bush is anything more than a puppet.
I would agree with you, though I think it is Cheney, more than daddy, that is pulling the strings.
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Re: 9/11 Happened.. Bush is Just a Fucking Natzi [Re: Seuss]
#5943247 - 08/08/06 04:52 AM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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Bush is a figurehead of corporate interests and any other influence who has money to back. Anyone can obviously see that Bush is a corporate shill who backs anything from lesser sulfur dioxide emissions to infrastrucutre acquisitions from foreign investors, logging of national forests, Pharmacuetical lobbying, Tax cuts on capital dividends and of course the Military Industrial Complex.
Bush has done nothing to help the citizens in this country, hes made it (itleast for me) harder to start a small business in this country(You practically need to be a lawyer these days)It costs the Bush admin millions of dollars a year just to classify all the underdoings he does.
At one time i was a conservative republican but it quickly changed when McCain lost the primary over a candidate who smears every opponent hes ran against.
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Re: 9/11 Happened.. Bush is Just a Fucking Natzi [Re: RosettaStoned]
#5943288 - 08/08/06 05:40 AM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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RosettaStoned said: I still don't believe bush is anything more than a puppet.
If you vote republican, you're voting for a puppet.
If you vote democrat, you're voting for a puppet.
Like it or not, every damn candidate that ever runs on behalf of the two major parties is someone who owes a lot of people a lot of favors, and is a puppet for life. You don't get to run as a major party candidate without proving to the party that you'll obey them.
Anyone voting republican or democrat needs to keep in mind the fact that they're not voting for someone with integrity.
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Re: 9/11 Happened.. Bush is Just a Fucking Natzi [Re: GabbaDj]
#5943505 - 08/08/06 09:34 AM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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Yea, bush is a Nazi. Thats why hes got such a Jew-heavy white house. Cause hes a nazi.
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Re: 9/11 Happened.. Bush is Just a Fucking Natzi [Re: Konnrade]
#5943510 - 08/08/06 09:36 AM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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Yeah, American democracy is and has been dead for quite sometime.
Though we have 4 somewhat large parties here in Canada(even though one is a provincial separatist party) I don't think we are doing much better with our government.
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Re: 9/11 Happened.. Bush is Just a Fucking Natzi [Re: Hank, FTW]
#5943692 - 08/08/06 10:59 AM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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Campaign contributions is just another word for bribes.
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Re: 9/11 Happened.. Bush is Just a Fucking Natzi [Re: SirTripAlot]
#5944312 - 08/08/06 02:21 PM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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NO ONE EVER SAID 9/11 DIDN'T HAPPEN!!!!!!! Is that what you think the 9/11 truth movement is saying? Seriously I would think the whole thing was regoddamndiculous to if thats the way I misintrepeted it!
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Re: 9/11 Happened.. Bush is Just a Fucking Natzi [Re: beatnicknick]
#5944365 - 08/08/06 02:50 PM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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He is just running oil pipelines though the middle east, and giving those contracts to friendly companies.
hey wait, didn't his family use to own a lot of oil Someone must protect the oil, who do we know in the defense industry Cheney
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Re: 9/11 Happened.. Bush is Just a Fucking Natzi [Re: RosettaStoned]
#5944823 - 08/08/06 05:10 PM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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Bush is a puppet of the American people. Get over it. You can fantasize all you want about the 2000 elections being a massive conspiracy perpetrated by the Bushuminati, but that doesn't make it real. You are just using them as a scapegoat for decisions that went through the democratic-republic process and were essentially approved by a majority of your fellow American citizens.
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Re: 9/11 Happened.. Bush is Just a Fucking Natzi [Re: Catalysis]
#5945005 - 08/08/06 06:00 PM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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Catalysis said: Bush is a puppet of the American people. Get over it. You can fantasize all you want about the 2000 elections being a massive conspiracy perpetrated by the Bushuminati, but that doesn't make it real. You are just using them as a scapegoat for decisions that went through the democratic-republic process and were essentially approved by a majority of your fellow American citizens.
It's people like this that make me want to
The only one living in a fantasy world is you my friend. I have never lived in an era where the president represented his people any less than Bush. Everything from the first election in which more REAL PEOPLE voted for Gore, to Iraq, to signing statements, to his approval rating, and beyond.
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Re: 9/11 Happened.. Bush is Just a Fucking Natzi [Re: beatnicknick]
#5945016 - 08/08/06 06:05 PM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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He won both elections. Fucking get over losing. Wut a dope.
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Re: 9/11 Happened.. Bush is Just a Fucking Natzi [Re: beatnicknick]
#5945045 - 08/08/06 06:16 PM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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Everything from the first election in which more REAL PEOPLE voted for Gore
LOL, there it is. If you think everything that has happened in government in the last 6 years is simply Bush's doing without any participation of your elected representatives, then I don't know what to tell you.
The war had support all across middle america. Just because you sit in a circle with your like-minded friends bitching about bush doesn't mean that it is happening all across the united states. All im saying is give credit where credit is due. Your beef is with the american people, not some super-secret conspiracy bullshit. You do your own agenda a disservice by having this attitude of denial.
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Re: 9/11 Happened.. Bush is Just a Fucking Natzi [Re: Catalysis]
#5945068 - 08/08/06 06:22 PM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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Let me tell you, it had support in NYC for a while too. Before the intellectual whackjobs found their inner pussies. Then some douches thought it would be koooool to scream Bush Sucks! There is almost no bigger bunch of poser assholes on the planet than NY liberals. Did I say poser? I meant to say POSER. With an ASSHOLE chaser. I'm sure some of you can swallow that.
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Re: 9/11 Happened.. Bush is Just a Fucking Natzi [Re: GabbaDj]
#5945536 - 08/08/06 08:15 PM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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"bush is a nazi" is getting pretty tired, but "bush is a natzi"? there's a classic.
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Re: 9/11 Happened.. Bush is Just a Fucking Natzi [Re: Catalysis]
#5946470 - 08/09/06 02:27 AM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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Everything from the first election in which more REAL PEOPLE voted for Gore
LOL, there it is. If you think everything that has happened in government in the last 6 years is simply Bush's doing without any participation of your elected representatives, then I don't know what to tell you.
The war had support all across middle america. Just because you sit in a circle with your like-minded friends bitching about bush doesn't mean that it is happening all across the united states. All im saying is give credit where credit is due. Your beef is with the american people, not some super-secret conspiracy bullshit. You do your own agenda a disservice by having this attitude of denial.
Correction, representatives in the government were for the war, because of the information they were given directly from the big W and his cabinet. Sure, you can say that they too were given misinformation, but I think you'd be playing the fool to say so.
I'll take you back to september 12th, 2001, only 24 hours after the tradjedy.
Spotting Richard A. Clarke, his counterterrorism coordinator, Bush pulled him and a small group of aides into the dark paneled room. "Go back over everything, everything," Bush said, according to Clarke's account. "See if Saddam did this."
"But Mr. President, al Qaeda did this," Clarke replied.
"I know, I know, but . . . see if Saddam was involved. Just look. I want to know any shred."
Reminded that the CIA, FBI and White House staffs had sought and found no such link before, Clarke said, Bush spoke "testily." As he left the room, Bush said a third time, "Look into Iraq, Saddam."
http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn/A13607-2004Mar21?language=printer
Now tell me again, was it really the American people that should take the blame for this war? Were they the ones on september 12th vigorously looking for ways to blame Saddam? Did they go on to alter intelligence to eventually justify cause for a causeless war, that now is not supported by the majority?
I don't know where along the way it got into your head that Bush won the popular vote in his original election, but based on actual facts, Bush won on a technicallity, caused by the much outdated system, the electoral college. The truth remains: MORE PEOPLE VOTED FOR GORE. Yes, Gore lost, but don't shove that "Bush represents more Americans" when that was a downright lie even 6 years ago. I don't know how to explain this any more clearly.
Let's check the old history book. Ahhh here it is. The exact number is 543,816 more Americans voted for Gore than Bush. Please, go to the library (judging by your political knowledge I assume you don't own any books) and look it up for yourself.
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Re: 9/11 Happened.. Bush is Just a Fucking Natzi [Re: beatnicknick]
#5946668 - 08/09/06 06:29 AM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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just for clarity, political neo-con Nazis don't hate jews, they hate there non-reptilian counterparts
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Re: 9/11 Happened.. Bush is Just a Fucking Natzi [Re: wilshire]
#5946714 - 08/09/06 07:10 AM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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wilshire said: "bush is a nazi" is getting pretty tired, but "bush is a natzi"? there's a classic.
Bush ain't a Nazi, but he's a goddamned selfish and reckless fool who has sent 2,600 young people to their deaths like this is some kind of video game. I sometimes wonder how the guy sleeps at night.
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Re: 9/11 Happened.. Bush is Just a Fucking Natzi [Re: Basilides]
#5946750 - 08/09/06 08:00 AM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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> I sometimes wonder how the guy sleeps at night.
My understanding is through the use of alcohol... lots and lots of alcohol. Besides, what are a few thousand US lives (not to mention the tens of thousands of civilian lives) worth compared to the need to avenge the assassination attempt on daddy. I doubt Bush has any problem sleeping, even if here weren't a drunk.
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Re: 9/11 Happened.. Bush is Just a Fucking Natzi [Re: Konnrade]
#5947545 - 08/09/06 02:14 PM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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If you vote republican, you're voting for a puppet.
If you vote democrat, you're voting for a puppet.
Correct. Though I would vote for the lesser of 2 evils. Which at the moment seems to be the democrats. They at least have the right idea about iraq - get the fuck out of there. And they are the only ones who can stand against bush. I'd love to be able to vote libertarian or independent, but face it...do that and your basically casting a vote for the repubs. They just love it when people vote 3rd party it just takes votes away from the democrats because the right wing voters will continue to vote repub even as the nukes start landing.
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Re: 9/11 Happened.. Bush is Just a Fucking Natzi [Re: Catalysis]
#5947565 - 08/09/06 02:22 PM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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Catalysis said: Bush is a puppet of the American people. Get over it. You can fantasize all you want about the 2000 elections being a massive conspiracy perpetrated by the Bushuminati, but that doesn't make it real. You are just using them as a scapegoat for decisions that went through the democratic-republic process and were essentially approved by a majority of your fellow American citizens.
I said nothing about 200 elections. But you have your head so far up your nether regions you are tasting stomach acid if you think bush is the man behind his policies. Bush is the greatest example of a president being a puppet than ever has existed in america. Why in the hell do you think has only used one veto in 6 years??? Every single spending bill passed like a hot potato. He is a puppet, and it is NOT the american people pulling the strings.
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Re: 9/11 Happened.. Bush is Just a Fucking Natzi [Re: RosettaStoned]
#5947594 - 08/09/06 02:33 PM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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I'd love to be able to vote libertarian or independent, but face it...do that and your basically casting a vote for the repubs.
False. Do that and you're voting for a libertarian or an independent. Of course, it depends on whether or not you live in a swing state. Living in California, I knew in the last election that my state was definitely going to vote for Kerry, so I was able to feel safe in voting Libertarian. So if you live in a state where the vote is going to be close, then go ahead and vote for the lesser of two evils. But if you live in a state where the outcome is secure, then it is a waste of your vote.
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Re: 9/11 Happened.. Bush is Just a Fucking Natzi [Re: Silversoul]
#5947610 - 08/09/06 02:39 PM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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I will conceed. If you know your state is voting for the lesser of two evils then yeah, your vote won't be cast for the bad guys. But I do happen to live in a swing state
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Re: 9/11 Happened.. Bush is Just a Fucking Natzi [Re: RosettaStoned]
#5947727 - 08/09/06 03:21 PM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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That shitty, defeatist attitude is exactly why we will ever have nothing but a two-party system. The American public are sheep who love to be herded into one of the two pens.
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Re: 9/11 Happened.. Bush is Just a Fucking Natzi [Re: Redstorm]
#5947746 - 08/09/06 03:28 PM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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Redstorm said: That shitty, defeatist attitude is exactly why we will ever have nothing but a two-party system. The American public are sheep who love to be herded into one of the two pens.
Actually, a winner-take-all election system like ours pretty much guarantees a two-party system. What is really needed is an alternative election system, such as proportional representation or condorcet voting. Of course, don't expect the Republicrats to support such a suicidal reform.
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Re: 9/11 Happened.. Bush is Just a Fucking Natzi [Re: Silversoul]
#5947757 - 08/09/06 03:32 PM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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I'm about the biggest advocate of proportional representation that you'll ever meet.
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Re: 9/11 Happened.. Bush is Just a Fucking Natzi [Re: Redstorm]
#5949289 - 08/09/06 11:33 PM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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I'm about the biggest advocate of proportional representation that you'll ever meet.
Sounds far more appropriate to me, but having a positive attitude and spreading smiles about the current one won't change the reality of the situation. That reality being the system is designed for 2 parties and any attempt at changing that will be quickly shot down with all the political capitol of the country, if not the planet, as means to suppress the change. I fear any hope of a change in our election system is a pipe dream.
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Re: 9/11 Happened.. Bush is Just a Fucking Natzi [Re: RosettaStoned]
#5949318 - 08/09/06 11:39 PM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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Personally, I don't have much faith in electoral politics in general.
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Re: 9/11 Happened.. Bush is Just a Fucking Natzi [Re: RosettaStoned]
#5949430 - 08/10/06 12:24 AM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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Or you could vote for a third party. You know the Rep's and Dem's haven't been the only two parties in American history, right?
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Re: 9/11 Happened.. Bush is Just a Fucking Natzi [Re: Silversoul]
#5950820 - 08/10/06 02:45 PM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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Silversoul said: Personally, I don't have much faith in electoral politics in general.
I'm not big on faith myself. Where do you put yours? Dictators?
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Re: 9/11 Happened.. Bush is Just a Fucking Natzi [Re: Redstorm]
#5950835 - 08/10/06 02:52 PM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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Really???
I just don't see voting for a 3rd party as causing any real change. Political change in america will only happen if one of the 2 main parties are involved...that or revolution.
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Edited by RosettaStoned (08/11/06 12:17 AM)
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Re: 9/11 Happened.. Bush is Just a Fucking Natzi [Re: RosettaStoned]
#5950994 - 08/10/06 04:16 PM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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A vote for the third party is only smart if you are sure they are going to get more support than the democrats.
The left cannot be divided if we want the left to gain any ground, and maybe the independents are the "lessest of the evils", but we can't afford people making a stand in an election this important.
Think about some of the things the democrats for. They are on the side of keeping the internet the way it is, they can impeach the president to set a precident for future presidents so we don't have any more tyrants, they can start undoing the policies of the GOP from the patriotic act to the horrible environmental policies.
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Re: 9/11 Happened.. Bush is Just a Fucking Natzi [Re: beatnicknick]
#5952657 - 08/11/06 12:00 AM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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I am libertarian, I would rather not vote then vote for the republicans or the Democrats. Sorry, I don't see any point in voting for the lesser of 2 evils, especially when both parties are private servants. I might vote green, but I disagree with too much of what they have to say. It is that type of thinking that is the reason that we don't have a major 3rd party. If you think that way then you should also realize how little your vote means and not even vote at all. Vote for who you want, don't vote against the guy you don't want.
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Re: 9/11 Happened.. Bush is Just a Fucking Natzi [Re: twiggedoubt]
#5952924 - 08/11/06 02:21 AM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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twiggedoubt said: I am libertarian, I would rather not vote then vote for the republicans or the Democrats. Sorry, I don't see any point in voting for the lesser of 2 evils, especially when both parties are private servants. I might vote green, but I disagree with too much of what they have to say. It is that type of thinking that is the reason that we don't have a major 3rd party. If you think that way then you should also realize how little your vote means and not even vote at all. Vote for who you want, don't vote against the guy you don't want.
Please don't take this advice. This is the advice of the republican. If you care about your children's children, you'd realise how bad this advice would be for them, and that taking this advice and spreading it would lead to an eventual 50/50 divide of the left. We need to set a goal of getting the democrats in and we can work from there. Right now too much is on the line with how republicans are taking away rights and liberties that we can think "oh my vote doesn't matter I just will vote for the most down to earth of the parties or hell I wont vote at all"
imagine half of the left had that attitude? the pigs would have outsmarted us, without even trying to.
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Edited by beatnicknick (08/11/06 02:25 AM)
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Re: 9/11 Happened.. Bush is Just a Fucking Natzi [Re: RosettaStoned]
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RosettaStoned said:
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If you vote republican, you're voting for a puppet.
If you vote democrat, you're voting for a puppet.
Correct. Though I would vote for the lesser of 2 evils. Which at the moment seems to be the democrats. They at least have the right idea about iraq - get the fuck out of there. And they are the only ones who can stand against bush. I'd love to be able to vote libertarian or independent, but face it...do that and your basically casting a vote for the repubs. They just love it when people vote 3rd party it just takes votes away from the democrats because the right wing voters will continue to vote repub even as the nukes start landing.
that is a really poor attitude. the lesser of two evils is still evil.
if you vote democrat then what you have to do is pick the right candidates.......
now yes voting is meaningless but if you had some guts and just voted for a good candidate, then less people would be spouting this foolish mantra..... and people would be like, you know i want to vote for the less of two evils, but that still sucks anyway so i'm just going to go ahead and vote how my conscience tells me even if it's a wasted vote.
there is NO reason to settle for something if you go to the length of calling it evil.
what's actually real ridiculous is some states last election didn't even have ballot access for third party candidates.... how is this a representative system if you can't vote for your party?
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beatnicknick said: A vote for the third party is only smart if you are sure they are going to get more support than the democrats.
The left cannot be divided if we want the left to gain any ground, and maybe the independents are the "lessest of the evils", but we can't afford people making a stand in an election this important.
Think about some of the things the democrats for. They are on the side of keeping the internet the way it is, they can impeach the president to set a precident for future presidents so we don't have any more tyrants, they can start undoing the policies of the GOP from the patriotic act to the horrible environmental policies.
that's really true though. the key is getting all the dems to lean a lot lefter than they leaned through the primaries.....
but questions arise, if we elect a president with integrity, will he go the way of JFK? still, best to try anyway.
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Edited by leery11 (08/11/06 02:53 PM)
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