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localground
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what do you think.... help me out guys
#5942433 - 08/07/06 10:03 PM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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alright i just made my first homemade pf tek. Heres what i did , followed the pf tek exactly in the cultivation part of the site. Steam sterilized my jars for what i thought might not have been long enough (half an hour) i covered the inoculation holes with masking tape and tin foil over that. I then got worried that i didnt steam for long enough so just to be sure , i got out an old syringe, sterilized some water , added a little more water to the jars via syringe through the inoculation holes and then put them in in the over for about 10 minutes at 450 degrees. ( if the steam didnt sterilize them 450 degrees definately cannot fail) the added water was to make up for the water that i might have lost in the oven. I then sterilized a spot on my desk after they cooled down for a few hours and inoculated them with my first south american strain (how is that strain by the way? anyone tried it?). I made sure to sterilize the needle tip and everything that needed to be touched ....also the rubber gloves u wore were steriized too.
Im a newbie with one failure behind me. Does it sound like i did everything right. IM determined to get mushrooms growth this time!!!
let me know what you think please. and also any opinions you may have about the south american strain... does it grow quickly?
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Yamidude
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Re: what do you think.... help me out guys [Re: localground]
#5942437 - 08/07/06 10:04 PM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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booooooo re-do them and follow the direction allll the way.. Sterilization is THE most important part..
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localground
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Re: what do you think.... help me out guys [Re: Yamidude]
#5942460 - 08/07/06 10:15 PM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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ive oven sterilized before , always got myc , no contams. I just always mess up when i get to the casing... but i think im gonna go straight off the cakes this time
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SpookerShroom
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Re: what do you think.... help me out guys [Re: localground]
#5942497 - 08/07/06 10:31 PM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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Ok you stated you were a noob with a failure behind you. So listen to Yami, he knows whats up.
The best way to start any grow is to START it the right way, reducing vectors of contamination, wether you think they are there or not. Your water content could be f*cked and you wouldnt know it.
Rule #1. Get a PC. Understandably if you cannot afford, then you are taking a good route with steam ster., but do it right. Heating jars in the oven @ 450 is not the same. The heat doesn't permeate the jars the same as in a pressure cooker, its not just that you lose moisture.
The best way to get to your first (and exciting) flush, is to get a good start.
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xaxphaanes
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Re: what do you think.... help me out guys [Re: SpookerShroom]
#5942846 - 08/08/06 12:26 AM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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oh wow this quote bothers me "followed the pf tek exactly in the cultivation part of the site." it sounds like you didn't man and you are doomed if you did not i would chuck em and start from scratch and follow the tek to a "T" no offense but it beats waiting for 2 weeks to find out that all contamed trust me i have been there.
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Tippinthru
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Re: what do you think.... help me out guys [Re: localground]
#5942924 - 08/08/06 12:52 AM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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When inexperienced. Follow the TEK, by the numbers.
If you were going for your first parachute jump.
You follow instructions EXACTLY.
Otherwise, you can/will DIE.
Same goes for first time growers.
Except, the substrate dies.
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RogerRabbit
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Re: what do you think.... help me out guys [Re: Tippinthru]
#5943396 - 08/08/06 08:08 AM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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You can't sterilize in the oven, period. Often new folks try it, then when they get to the casing stage, they see green. Most green molds in bulk substrates were introduced at spawning. It's from improper sterilization. You need steam to sterilize without drying out your substrate. Water can't exist in a liquid state without being under pressure at a temp above 212F/100C, so if you get to steriliztion temperature in the oven, your substrate will be as dry as sand in the Sahara desert. One must listen to those who have blazed the trails before. Follow the teks until you grow a few mushrooms, then use that knowledge to experiment. RR
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