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DMT Pills?
    #5941074 - 08/07/06 03:07 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

I was given some pills and were told they are DMT that were pressed into a pill from an Herbal Pill Press. I am not sure how many mg's it is but am I going to even get any effects from taking it orally? or should I just crush it up and smoke it? Is it possible its not DMT at all becuase my friend said he took it orraly and was trippin out.


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Re: DMT Pills? [Re: TrippinOnAcid]
    #5941123 - 08/07/06 03:25 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

If he took no MAOI with the pill then it is certainly not DMT.


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Re: DMT Pills? [Re: AlteredAgain]
    #5941189 - 08/07/06 03:46 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

Probably an RC, if anything at all.

Do they look like "unofficially pressed" E pills? (meaning, not some OTC drug) or do they look like someone emptied a vitamin bottle for a few bucks?


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Re: DMT Pills? [Re: Koala Koolio]
    #5941844 - 08/07/06 07:18 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

Nope didnt take any MAOI that I know of unless it was in the pill and it looks like a pill pressed from a cheap pill pressing kit offline.


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Re: DMT Pills? [Re: TrippinOnAcid]
    #5941871 - 08/07/06 07:29 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

ask your friend if he's seen any elves. :lol:

a quick inquiry on his experience could answer your question.


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Re: DMT Pills? *DELETED* [Re: TrippinOnAcid]
    #5941935 - 08/07/06 07:46 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

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Re: DMT Pills? [Re: Magickow]
    #5941957 - 08/07/06 07:50 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

I have been keeping it at room temperature and it doesnt feel like its melting. I will take it either way becuase my friend didnt die lol but I would like to know what it is. He said it was strong halluciantions wich fit the description of DMT and is also what it was sold as. I dont think it is DMT though. Is there any other herbal pressed pill that would produce effects like that?


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Re: DMT Pills? [Re: Magickow]
    #5942775 - 08/08/06 12:08 AM (17 years, 5 months ago)

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dmt melts into liquid around 74 degrees, so i doubt if its dmt, unless you've been keeping them in a cool place.




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Re: DMT Pills? *DELETED* [Re: Koala Koolio]
    #5943360 - 08/08/06 07:24 AM (17 years, 5 months ago)

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Re: DMT Pills? [Re: TrippinOnAcid]
    #5943369 - 08/08/06 07:39 AM (17 years, 5 months ago)

i dont think i would trust something like that.

if it is dmt and an MAOI, then the amounts are unknown, and could be dangerous

if it is an RC, who knows how much and which one.

To many variables that involve strong chemicals.

fuck that :shrug:


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Re: DMT Pills? [Re: Schwip]
    #5943515 - 08/08/06 09:39 AM (17 years, 5 months ago)

Yeah not to be rude but this is why drugs are illegal. You don't know what it is, or what it will do. That's not exactly being very responsbile with your body.


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Re: DMT Pills? [Re: Sinthetic]
    #5943909 - 08/08/06 12:01 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

if dmt "melted into liquid at 74 degrees" how could the crystal that we all know and love exist? I think you mean 74 degrees celcius.


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Re: DMT Pills? [Re: Magickow]
    #5944019 - 08/08/06 12:33 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

74 °C, what is that in Fahrenheit?
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Re: DMT Pills? [Re: kija]
    #5944258 - 08/08/06 01:54 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

Swim has had it in his pockets before, though not rubbing against his genitals or anything. :P

74deg C is 165deg F. I thought something was fishy. :P

Swim has some in a basement that is a few degrees over 74, and it is nothing but shiny and beautiful.

Now, I know it has been a hot summer, but not *quite* that hot. :smile:


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Re: DMT Pills? [Re: Sinthetic]
    #5947789 - 08/09/06 03:47 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

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Yeah not to be rude but this is why drugs are illegal. You don't know what it is, or what it will do. That's not exactly being very responsbile with your body.




no dude. this is why drugs SHOULD be legal. so we can know what the drug is and what it will do, and be responsible with our bodies.

if drugs were legal you wouldnt be buyign sketchy pills from a guy on the street. you would go to a pharmacy or headshop and have your drugs carefully weighed and the effects described


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Re: DMT Pills? [Re: evolprim]
    #5949409 - 08/10/06 12:15 AM (17 years, 5 months ago)

Couldn't have said it better myself... I must've missed that comment earlier. It is the exact reason that drugs should be decriminalized, if not legalized.


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Re: DMT Pills? [Re: AlteredAgain]
    #20045851 - 05/27/14 06:35 AM (9 years, 8 months ago)

Definitely saw the fucking elves
was at a rave at a gorgeous location and some chap handed me this mysterious capsule he said contained dmt which can be taken orally i asked how strong he chuckled and just said mild so strait away I threw it down my throat without a second thought just after ingesting a 20mg hit of 2cb moments before. i mean I've done plenty of mushrooms and acid microdots the whole 2c alphabet lol i was fairly confident i wasn't going to be encountering what i had any time soon  obviously if i had have known the caliber and string of this i would have taken it in a sounder enviroment knowing and prepared but no i wondered off to go smoke a spliff over looking an incredibly beautiful view of the valley ( ironically called devils dyke) so yeah expecting minimal to happen more than anything just to have a 2cb jam buttt after that first toke oooooohhhh how i was wrong full blown 100% dmt deal elves coming out the woodwork hit me like a psychedelic sledgehammer for the  first half which seemed like hours had passed and slowly at that i hadn't a clue what was happening to me completely forgetting id even taken it and that he did in fairness mention it was dmt (he knew exactly what he was giving me ) :wink: elf behaviour if i ever saw it lol but yeah without going  into the trip its self i was taken back and my soul was shaken up to fuck just knowing that some how this guy has either developed or got hold of a way of taking dmt it orally this is scary news. but revolutionary in the right hands we hold the information to change the course of... well just use your imagination..


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Re: DMT Pills? [Re: elvishfruit]
    #20045952 - 05/27/14 07:35 AM (9 years, 8 months ago)

could it be 4-aco-dmt? i havnt tried it but i think its become quite popular over the last couple of years..

people shortenin the name as it gets passed down the chain..


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Re: DMT Pills? [Re: budbud420]
    #20045969 - 05/27/14 07:42 AM (9 years, 8 months ago)

yeah, or maybe it´s some of that 4-hydroxy-N,N-DMT that everyone can produce so easily at home.


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Re: DMT Pills? [Re: Rauhfasertapete]
    #20046122 - 05/27/14 09:13 AM (9 years, 8 months ago)

SEVEN year old (long dead) thread!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Jeez.

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Re: DMT Pills? [Re: Nature Boy]
    #20046701 - 05/27/14 12:14 PM (9 years, 8 months ago)

Could you re-direct me to some more up to date info on this and or any discussions on it?


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Re: DMT Pills? [Re: elvishfruit]
    #20047368 - 05/27/14 03:09 PM (9 years, 8 months ago)

Use the search engine.  Hint:  There's a reason this thread has not had a post to it in seven years.  It's just STUPID.  :bye:


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Re: DMT Pills? [Re: elvishfruit]
    #22120864 - 08/21/15 06:48 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

I just found this through some searching on google.

This is definitely a serious discussion I would like to have with someone who also see's this as a possibility.

This is underway now.


I am also new to this forum. How secure is this sapce?


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Re: DMT Pills? [Re: AlteredAgain]
    #22120872 - 08/21/15 06:52 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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ask your friend if he's seen any elves. :lol:

a quick inquiry on his experience could answer your question.




The fact that there's no such thing as DMT pills answers his question.


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Re: DMT Pills? [Re: TheOn3Being]
    #22120892 - 08/21/15 07:03 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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I just found this through some searching on google.

This is definitely a serious discussion I would like to have with someone who also see's this as a possibility.

This is underway now.


I am also new to this forum. How secure is this sapce?




What is a serious discussion? Secure how? It's a public forum. You got here from Google. As such, you ultimately determine how secure your anonymity is.

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Re: DMT Pills? [Re: LSDreamer]
    #22120981 - 08/21/15 07:37 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

How close would residue (black tar accumulation) left from AYA bottle's come to these type of Pill's - Of course not pure DMT however very close. I have used this and it has the same affects as drinking.


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Re: DMT Pills? [Re: TheOn3Being]
    #22120998 - 08/21/15 07:46 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Theoretically, you could take DMT crystal and extracted harmala and put them in a pill of capsule, which would be effective. However, doing so with the intent of giving them to other people, especially people you don't personally know, would be fantastically dangerous and irresponsible.


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Re: DMT Pills? [Re: LSDreamer]
    #22122201 - 08/21/15 12:21 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Ok. Was is extraced Harmala.

You are aware of what I am speaking of? The dense resin that accumulates at the bottom of an AYA bottle.

You are saying the irresponsibility is coming from the lack of knowledge of amount of each chemical in piece of resin correct?


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Re: DMT Pills? [Re: LSDreamer]
    #22122213 - 08/21/15 12:23 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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The fact that there's no such thing as DMT pills answers his question.





Hardly. Pictured here is a capsule of 225mg harmala alkaloids and 100mg n,n-DMT which I have dubbed "pill-huasca."  It is hands down my favorite way to dose oral DMT.  I consider it an Ayahuasca analog.  Use the search function and you will see lots of posts from me on this forum on the net result of having dosed these "DMT pills."  :rockon:



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Re: DMT Pills? [Re: TheOn3Being]
    #22122243 - 08/21/15 12:32 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Ok. Was is extraced Harmala.

You are aware of what I am speaking of? The dense resin that accumulates at the bottom of an AYA bottle.

You are saying the irresponsibility is coming from the lack of knowledge of amount of each chemical in piece of resin correct?




I'm saying if you go around giving people ayahuasca-in-a-pill, you're going to kill someone.


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Re: DMT Pills? [Re: LSDreamer]
    #22122938 - 08/21/15 03:01 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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I'm saying if you go around giving people ayahuasca-in-a-pill, you're going to kill someone.




Yeah.  As Terrence McKenna put it:  "Death by astonishment."  :lolsy:


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Re: DMT Pills? [Re: Nature Boy]
    #22123171 - 08/21/15 03:52 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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I'm saying if you go around giving people ayahuasca-in-a-pill, you're going to kill someone.




Yeah.  As Terrence McKenna put it:  "Death by astonishment."  :lolsy:




That or fatal dru-drug interactions with an MAOI


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Re: DMT Pills? [Re: LSDreamer]
    #22123722 - 08/21/15 06:03 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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That or fatal dru-drug interactions with an MAOI




Fatal?  Never. Show me one documented instance in medical literature where that happened.  The problem ISN'T the DMT.  You could administer a "DMT pill" containing fifty grams of n,n-DMT and absolutely nothing would happen to that individual, so your concern is completely misplaced.

You're confusing DMT with the ill effects (again, not hardly EVER fatal) of a combination of a pharmaceutical non-RIMA MAOI and diets high in MAO which can result (again, you gotta REALLY try hard) in serotonin syndrome.  Your concern over the DMT molecule is utterly unjustified.

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Re: DMT Pills? [Re: Nature Boy]
    #22124255 - 08/21/15 08:08 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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That or fatal dru-drug interactions with an MAOI




Fatal?  Never. Show me one documented instance in medical literature where that happened.  The problem ISN'T the DMT.  You could administer a "DMT pill" containing fifty grams of n,n-DMT and absolutely nothing would happen to that individual, so your concern is completely misplaced.

You're confusing DMT with the ill effects (again, not hardly EVER fatal) of a combination of a pharmaceutical non-RIMA MAOI and diets high in MAO which can result (again, you gotta REALLY try hard) in serotonin syndrome.  Your concern over the DMT molecule is utterly unjustified.

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The DMT is not the problem in this situation (though in such a hypothetical situation probably doesn't help) The fact is that feeding harmala alkaloids to random people is dangerous because you don't know ANYTHING about what drugs they may be taking, both recreational and medicinal. This is absolutely more dangerous than handing out MDMA or whatever pills to random people. For example, how do you think that would go down if the person you gave that to had also taken some "acid" they got sold that was actually a high dose of an nbome?


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Re: DMT Pills? [Re: LSDreamer]
    #22125279 - 08/22/15 12:56 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Harmalas are different than pharmaceutical maois.
I have dosed pharma and ayahuasca many times without
following any special dietary restraints.

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    #22125350 - 08/22/15 01:46 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Alright. I guess you can walk around a festie handing out pharmahuasca pills if you really want to. The fact remains that MAOIs, whether they're reversible or irreversible and in hibi A, B, or both have some of the broadest potentials for drug interactions of any drug class.


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Re: DMT Pills? [Re: LSDreamer]
    #22125497 - 08/22/15 03:33 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

From my understanding, RIMA's like harmala alkaloids shouldn't present problems from diet or use with most pharmaceuticals like SSRI's, but could still be quite dangerous when used with other drugs such as MDMA, which is quite common at festivals.


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Re: DMT Pills? [Re: LSDreamer]
    #22125930 - 08/22/15 08:26 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Alright. I guess you can walk around a festie handing out pharmahuasca pills if you really want to. The fact remains that MAOIs, whether they're reversible or irreversible and in hibi A, B, or both have some of the broadest potentials for drug interactions of any drug class.




I'm well into my 60's.  I don't go to festivals, and I have never (and will never) give any drug to anyone, EVER, so that's not a problem.  But changing the substance from DMT to harmala alkaloids requires a different discussion than the one we've been having.  I would point out that if you are talking about harmaline and harmine from botanical sources, it's not going to represent a problem, for at least two practical reasons I can think of right off the bat.

First off, at MOST you could cram 325mg of harmala alkaloids (from P. harmala seeds or B. caapi vine) into a single double 0 pill.  That's not going to prove fatal to ANYONE, no matter what their diet or other medications.

Secondly, since those botanical sources net you a reversible and only PARTIAL inhibition, no harm will be done - certainly not to a fatal conclusion.  It's the powerful, full and irreversible pharmaceutical MAOI's that can be downright dangerous.  You would be 100% correct in your concerns if that was what someone did to another without careful inquiry as to their other medications or recent (last 48 hours) diet.

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Re: DMT Pills? [Re: Nature Boy]
    #22126417 - 08/22/15 11:10 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Easy

RIMA MAOi -------------> 2-3 days recommended to avoid thiamine and other stuff. 24 hours is a must.
Big Pharma MAOi -------> 3-6 months to avoid thiamine and other stuff, normally 6 or more, doctor should say.

So, a MAOi is a MAOi and should be used responsibly.


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Re: DMT Pills? [Re: AkashicExplorer]
    #22201322 - 09/07/15 10:11 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Hey, i'm a new user here. Sorry to dig up an old post but i've been looking for info on this as something odd happened to SWIM recently.

So, SWIM was in a country in the far east last month. They bought some pills from a lady who said it was MDMA. However, the lady gave them something else. The effects were 100% not MDMA and fell fully within the realms of DMT experience.

SWIM began hallucinating beautiful complex shapes and colours, that were somewhat frightening so returned to their room ASAP. Once in the room SWIM suddenly saw a 'portal' (bad description) open in front of them as the room and their body melted away. There was nothing but darkness and a bull made of fire walking through endless space. After what felt like an eternity SWIM was pulled into a 'white space' where time didn't exist, and neither did any of things such as height, depth, width - it's indescribable - and all the knowledge of the universe was there. Great conversations were had with god-like energies who told him things including how the universe was made, how energy flows between us all, how life and death are just illusions and also learned the meaning of life. Their were overwhelming emotions of happiness and sadness at the same time. SWIM could see and feel the whole timeline of eternity surrounding him, before suddenly jolting back to earth and feeling sober(ish).

SWIM is not into trips or spirituality at all so has no idea where this kind of thing came from.

After this followed a few hours of being sick and a few days of re-adjusting to life after such a powerful experience.

So, two reasons why i went into so much detail about their trip.

1. Does this sound like DMT? This trip isn't an exaggeration, in fact it's way less powerful and less detailed than what actually happened.
2. If so, then how did that happen from something in pill form?

I'm interested to hear what you guys think. It's been puzzling me for a while.


Edited by MavisMavis (09/07/15 10:15 AM)


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Re: DMT Pills? [Re: MavisMavis]
    #22201688 - 09/07/15 11:50 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Could be alot of things 99% sure its not dmt , nobody can 100% say what you had ,only thing you can do is run reagent tests on the pills and try to find out .

could be alot of things ,4-aco-dmt maybe? how long did the trip last anyway ?


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Re: DMT Pills? [Re: MavisMavis]
    #22203965 - 09/07/15 07:18 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

MavisMavis said:
Hey, i'm a new user here. Sorry to dig up an old post but i've been looking for info on this as something odd happened to SWIM recently.

So, SWIM was in a country in the far east last month. They bought some pills from a lady who said it was MDMA. However, the lady gave them something else. The effects were 100% not MDMA and fell fully within the realms of DMT experience.

SWIM began hallucinating beautiful complex shapes and colours, that were somewhat frightening so returned to their room ASAP. Once in the room SWIM suddenly saw a 'portal' (bad description) open in front of them as the room and their body melted away. There was nothing but darkness and a bull made of fire walking through endless space. After what felt like an eternity SWIM was pulled into a 'white space' where time didn't exist, and neither did any of things such as height, depth, width - it's indescribable - and all the knowledge of the universe was there. Great conversations were had with god-like energies who told him things including how the universe was made, how energy flows between us all, how life and death are just illusions and also learned the meaning of life. Their were overwhelming emotions of happiness and sadness at the same time. SWIM could see and feel the whole timeline of eternity surrounding him, before suddenly jolting back to earth and feeling sober(ish).

SWIM is not into trips or spirituality at all so has no idea where this kind of thing came from.

After this followed a few hours of being sick and a few days of re-adjusting to life after such a powerful experience.

So, two reasons why i went into so much detail about their trip.

1. Does this sound like DMT? This trip isn't an exaggeration, in fact it's way less powerful and less detailed than what actually happened.
2. If so, then how did that happen from something in pill form?

I'm interested to hear what you guys think. It's been puzzling me for a while.




You got a psychedelic. Most likely a 2C if I had to guess, but it could be a ton of thing. What it wasn't is DMT.


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