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apfrommsp
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Illegal search and seizure?
#5940715 - 08/07/06 12:40 PM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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Ok so last night i was sitting at a park with a buddy and we were smoking some reefer and the cops pulled up. The cops made us get against the cars and took out everything in my pockets and said htey were gonna impound my car, well the cop asked me if there was any more pot in the car and i said if there is it would be visible through my window. Well the cops searched my car and found about 100$ of mushrooms in my backpack without me saying yes you can search my car. Aint that illegal? right now i am being charged with possession of a schedule 1 substance. Anyone wanna help?
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Re: Illegal search and seizure? [Re: apfrommsp]
#5940749 - 08/07/06 12:51 PM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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I hate to tell you this, but since you were caught smoking a controlled substance in public, and you were placed under arrest for being in possession of a controlled substance they have consent to search you and your car for more drugs. Not to be rude or anything, but that was pretty foolish smoking in public like that. Best of luck
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Re: Illegal search and seizure? [Re: ShroomOmatic]
#5940754 - 08/07/06 12:53 PM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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It was at 1030 at night, and we were not really caught smoking, but my friend was caught with a bag on him and they are dropping those charges but its just the whole shroom thing....whats the typical punishment do you think for that?
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Re: Illegal search and seizure? [Re: apfrommsp]
#5940778 - 08/07/06 12:59 PM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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The cops "inventory" a car when it is impounded to negate any claims of theft. Once they impound the car, they can search it and anything in it. Same goes for you upon arrest. Once you are under arrest, they can search you and anything in your possession. In your case, once the cops detected you breaking the law, you were pretty much screwed. At that point, they had every right to legally arrest you, search you, impound your car, and search your car. On the bright side, at least they haven't charged you with intent to distribute. Get yourself a good lawyer and stay absolutely clean until this is over. (I'm not a lawyer.)
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Re: Illegal search and seizure? [Re: Seuss]
#5940784 - 08/07/06 01:01 PM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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Yea i am getting a really good lawyer, but they didnt say anything about me being under arrest until they searched my car,
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Re: Illegal search and seizure? [Re: apfrommsp]
#5940787 - 08/07/06 01:02 PM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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Get a good lawyer. He might be able to get it suppressed via some technicality.
Loopholes in the law are great but if you don't know them or have someone who does, they will bend you over and fuck your loophole for all your worth. Fuck your rights. They're the goddamned government. They'll do what they want because none of us are brave enough (or have the power) to stand up to them.
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Re: Illegal search and seizure? [Re: Seuss]
#5940789 - 08/07/06 01:02 PM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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I would answer your questions, but I just wasted a bunch of my time because you lied about what happened. Get yourself a good lawyer and stay absolutely clean until this is over.
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Re: Illegal search and seizure? [Re: Seuss]
#5940795 - 08/07/06 01:04 PM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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was it smart for me to say i wont speak without my attorney?
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Re: Illegal search and seizure? [Re: apfrommsp]
#5941013 - 08/07/06 02:46 PM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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yes, if you didnt confess you probably have a good case.
were you caught smoking in your car in the park?
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Re: Illegal search and seizure? [Re: apfrommsp]
#5941041 - 08/07/06 02:56 PM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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how the hell did you get out so fast?
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Re: Illegal search and seizure? [Re: lemon_lw]
#5941060 - 08/07/06 03:04 PM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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Re: Illegal search and seizure? [Re: lemon_lw]
#5941067 - 08/07/06 03:05 PM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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probly cuz they werent felony charges...
do you have any prior convictions afro?
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Re: Illegal search and seizure? [Re: apfrommsp]
#5941090 - 08/07/06 03:12 PM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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I've been caught in a very similar situation and the easiest loophole to squeeze through is the illegal impounding of your car. If they didn't have the right to impound your car, they sure as hell didn't have the right to go through it afterwards. If they searched your car after you told them they couldn't, or if they had no just cause to search your car in the first place, you could be alright.
Getting caught with weed on your person does NOT give them the right to search your car, unless you are in your car or maybe sitting on the hood or something.
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Re: Illegal search and seizure? [Re: Jadian]
#5941762 - 08/07/06 06:55 PM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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we were not even smoking, he found pot on my friend and a pipe on me, outside in the park. I got out quickly cuz i told them i had doctor appointments all day today, which i did until about 1 so they told me my health is more important and let me go.
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Re: Illegal search and seizure? [Re: apfrommsp]
#5941767 - 08/07/06 06:56 PM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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this was my first offense
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Re: Illegal search and seizure? [Re: apfrommsp]
#5941792 - 08/07/06 07:01 PM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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im sure they asked, they probably worded it very weird so that you didnt even notice(according to busted thats how it works). thats why youve got to say, "i dont consent any unwarranted searches". did you or your friend take the weed out of your pocket. cause i was reading during the weapons search they try to trick you and tell you to take that out and you dont have to unless it is a weapon (but this whole issue is a big grey area in law). if they took it out of your pocket then you might have a case to dismiss, but then you still hav ethe drugs in the car.
the moral of this story is this. smoke at home.
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Re: Illegal search and seizure? [Re: lemon_lw]
#5942193 - 08/07/06 08:47 PM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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They put us against the cars and emptied our pockets for us. Then they found the drugs, i guess ill just get me a good jewish lawyer for now.
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Re: Illegal search and seizure? [Re: apfrommsp]
#5942213 - 08/07/06 08:52 PM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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dude did you watch the cops come walking right towards ya? Fuck man I bolt if theirs danger.
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Re: Illegal search and seizure? [Re: musicturkey]
#5942225 - 08/07/06 08:54 PM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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They pulled up in their cars and my car was parked at the park we were at while we sat on a bench eating burger king....bunch of fucking pricks.
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Re: Illegal search and seizure? [Re: apfrommsp]
#5942325 - 08/07/06 09:25 PM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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Dont sit at a park late at night, expecally with drugs on your possession. The cops check parks late at night, expecially at that time of night, just after dark...Good luck!
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Re: Illegal search and seizure? [Re: apfrommsp]
#5942880 - 08/08/06 12:37 AM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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apfrommsp said: I got out quickly cuz i told them i had doctor appointments all day today, which i did until about 1 so they told me my health is more important and let me go.
I'm sorry, but this reeks of complete bullshit. The cops do not let you go just because you have a doctor's appointment!! That's ridiculous! Possession of mushrooms is a felony in most states and you would definitely need to get bonded out, in that case.
How did you really get out?
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Re: Illegal search and seizure? [Re: blissedout]
#5942886 - 08/08/06 12:38 AM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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This whole thread reeks.
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Re: Illegal search and seizure? [Re: blissedout]
#5942892 - 08/08/06 12:39 AM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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Quote:
blissedout said:
this reeks of complete bullshit.
glad i wasnt the only one.
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Re: Illegal search and seizure? [Re: lemon_lw]
#5943399 - 08/08/06 08:11 AM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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im not kidding i was like yeah i got scans for cancer all day tomorrow and they were like usually we would bring you downtown but your health is more important.
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Re: Illegal search and seizure? [Re: apfrommsp]
#5943629 - 08/08/06 10:32 AM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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I'm sorry, but I don't beleive you. What state lets you walk, after finding mushrooms on you and going to all of the trouble of booking you? I mean really. It would be cool and civil, but that's not the way things work, when you get arrested. You should have been charged with a felony and like I said earlier, that requires a bond being posted in order for you to be released.
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Re: Illegal search and seizure? [Re: blissedout]
#5943883 - 08/08/06 11:54 AM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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Im in minnesota, they made me get pictured and printed, i dont think someone would like about somethin like this.
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Re: Illegal search and seizure? [Re: apfrommsp]
#5943898 - 08/08/06 11:58 AM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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What were you charged with?
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Re: Illegal search and seizure? [Re: blissedout]
#5944009 - 08/08/06 12:29 PM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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a felony... He said possession of narcotics/possesion of a schedule 1 subastance.
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Re: Illegal search and seizure? [Re: apfrommsp]
#5944015 - 08/08/06 12:31 PM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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Exactly what I thought....and they let you go?
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Re: Illegal search and seizure? [Re: blissedout]
#5944211 - 08/08/06 01:36 PM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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yeah he said somethin about PC narcotics or somethin like that. He was like well you have cancer scans tomorrow and your health is more important than this right now so we'll let you go.... I was thankin god the whole way home when i got picked up
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Re: Illegal search and seizure? [Re: apfrommsp]
#5944239 - 08/08/06 01:45 PM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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sound like its time for a run to mexico, plus the cancer meds are probably cheaper.
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Re: Illegal search and seizure? [Re: lemon_lw]
#5944244 - 08/08/06 01:47 PM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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well i had cancer liek 2 years ago, hopefully the charges wont be that bad i know a really good lawyer a "super" lawyer
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Re: Illegal search and seizure? [Re: apfrommsp]
#5944352 - 08/08/06 02:45 PM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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my friend got off with nothing! They didnt even bring him in for the pot, I am pissed
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Re: Illegal search and seizure? [Re: apfrommsp]
#5944357 - 08/08/06 02:46 PM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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why are you not back in jail. how old are you, cause i could only see them being this nice to a minor.
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Re: Illegal search and seizure? [Re: lemon_lw]
#5944381 - 08/08/06 02:56 PM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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Im 18, im totally baffled by the thing man
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Re: Illegal search and seizure? [Re: apfrommsp]
#5944387 - 08/08/06 02:57 PM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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yeah its a really weird situation you have got there. i hope your attorney can get you off
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Re: Illegal search and seizure? [Re: lemon_lw]
#5944408 - 08/08/06 03:03 PM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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YEah me too, luckily i personally know a few good ones so ill see who wants to give me the best deal
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