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Asthma & Marijuana
    #5940309 - 08/07/06 10:09 AM (17 years, 5 months ago)

I've been somewhat looking at this and what I want to know is does smoking marijuana help asthma, worsen it, or do nothing. I've seen things saying how it has helped people's asthma. Now I actually have asthma and I've been smoking for years now and I don't know if its getting better or not changing but it doesn't seem to be getting worse. Although the first time I smoked I ended up having a asthma problem that next week. (it was a 3ft bong as well, so that doesn't help the case)

So if anyone has studies or links to proof of weed helping asthma post them up please.


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Re: Asthma & Marijuana [Re: MrFantasy]
    #5940368 - 08/07/06 10:36 AM (17 years, 5 months ago)

I've had asthmatic reactions pretty much all my life (haven't this year mind you). So while I don't exactly HAVE asthma, I do get attacks like an asthma attack, just less frequently and usually less severe. A friend of mine also has asthma, we both smoke, cigarettes and weed (mind you I vaporize mainly now and I'm not a regular smoker). Other than encouraging a couple sore throats that developed into something worse I haven't had much negative effects (although if you smoke a few times a day for a couple months straight your lungs/throat/body will probably start to feel it).

As for my friend, I can hear a deep rumbling/wheeze every time he breaths and there's no background noise and he's had a couple asthma attacks brought on by smoking. Just keep your inhaler handy. Neat little trick, even if you're not having an asthma attack try taking a puff of two from the inhaler to open up your airways and see how big of a bong hit you can take. Just easy on it, puffers aren't cheap and you shouldn't be loading yourself with medication for no reason like that.

I'm telling you now though... Smoke will not make your lungs better... That's pretty old logic there...


Edited by StickyWater (08/07/06 10:36 AM)


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Re: Asthma & Marijuana [Re: StickyWater]
    #5940596 - 08/07/06 11:55 AM (17 years, 5 months ago)

Asthma as having a hard time breathing,

Its just been resently that I've been experiencing breathing difficulities while hooting on some hash.

I know one thing that helps me breath better is not eatting, or eatting light. Plus running helps, even though to me it takes too much work.

I'd eat less, I'd eat things that my body needs, drink pure cold water, prepare for long journeys out. Get plenty of sleep


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Re: Asthma & Marijuana [Re: MrFantasy]
    #5940637 - 08/07/06 12:13 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

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MrFantasy said:
I've been somewhat looking at this and what I want to know is does smoking marijuana help asthma, worsen it, or do nothing. I've seen things saying how it has helped people's asthma. Now I actually have asthma and I've been smoking for years now and I don't know if its getting better or not changing but it doesn't seem to be getting worse. Although the first time I smoked I ended up having a asthma problem that next week. (it was a 3ft bong as well, so that doesn't help the case)

So if anyone has studies or links to proof of weed helping asthma post them up please.




Well..

Allergies.. are often over active immune systems.. (under exposed immune systems)
Meaning, your body reacts to say, dust or pollen, as if it was bacterias, etcetera..

Thus you "get sick", not being sick, ...

There is a same thing in some cases of asthma..

AND, Yes! Some might even benefit from smoking a cigarette..
Some might even clear it, as the lungs then recognize the tar and shit, as being crappy.. thus allow normal dust, to just be dust..

:crazy2::thumbup:

BTW; I got a "friend", he got a 's' shaped spine, the heart on the wrong side, and was born with a hole in his heart.. etcetera..

One lung never got to develop, so it is like a fist, ...
And the other is "normal" ..

The doctors told him he would die if he ever started smoking, but, he did...
And he is still around, and he actually stopped spitting all the time.

SO it kind of makes me wonder..


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Re: Asthma & Marijuana [Re: capliberty]
    #5940709 - 08/07/06 12:39 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

Asthma isn't just having problems breathing.

Asthma is a disease triggered usually by something in the air, weather, stress, illness, etc. Problems breathing after smoking is because your lungs are full of crap, problems breathing from asthma are because your airways are shut, full of excessive mucus, and your chest is tightening. Try clenching your throat shut (just enough so you can still breath) and try breathing through it. Add onto that the forced labour of inhaling with a tense chest and the pain of all that mucus vibrating throughout your entire lungs, I'd much rather have a little difficulty breathing from smoking...

And again, I'd just like to say if you have asthma DON'T RUN! A gym teacher didn't believe I had asthma problems in grade 4 and I had to spend the next 12 hours hooked up to a machine to monitor my heart to make sure I was able to get enough oxygen into my blood under my own power while they pumped some gas into the room to open my lungs and clear them out.

I'd post some articles, etc about why smoking with asthma is risky, but I feel this is just too obvious and there's just too many articles to pick from. Do a search for "smoking and asthma" and you'll immediately find a bunch of articles explaining why smoke is bad for asthmatics.

To the original poster and anyone else who may have asthma, I'm sure you already know this but a bit of advice, while you're having an attack avoid milk, icecream or other milk products as this will only end up making breathing harder and cloging your throat with more crap.


Edited by StickyWater (08/07/06 12:49 PM)


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Re: Asthma & Marijuana [Re: StickyWater]
    #5940920 - 08/07/06 02:06 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

My housemate used to suffer from very bad chronic asthma. He had to take steroids for it for the majority of his lifetime. Ironically enough, when he started smoking MJ, it cleared up instantaneously. He hasn't had to use the steroids for close to 3 years now.


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Re: Asthma & Marijuana [Re: wiggles]
    #5941880 - 08/07/06 07:32 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

I know this... If I have had an upper respiratory infection nothing clears my lungs better than some good ganja. Now I admit this is often very unpleasant BUT I breathe much better afterwords.


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Re: Asthma & Marijuana [Re: chris92346]
    #5942236 - 08/07/06 08:58 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

as far as colds go, etc. I do find that bud clears it up for awhile, but I usually find once the high wares off I notice I feel even worse than I did before smoking. If you think it works for you by all means go right ahead and smoke, just don't complain if it doesn't work out as you hoped and you have to go to the hospital, and don't get annoyed when people start saying "well that was pretty stupid..."


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Re: Asthma & Marijuana [Re: StickyWater]
    #5942441 - 08/07/06 10:07 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

I think some of you guys got what I was saying wrong. I don't have any problems smoking weed at this point of my life it was only the first time I did, I'm fine with it now. I was just saying like some of you said it seems like it has helped some or atleast didn't make worse for people considering they are smoking. I don't think it would be the smoke that would "help" asthma but like some of you said mabe the weed itself. Mabe I'm just talking nonsense about this whole thing but I figured smoking anything it would have made asthma much worse than it orginally was or even not have got better at all.


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Re: Asthma & Marijuana [Re: MrFantasy]
    #5942461 - 08/07/06 10:15 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

well weed DOES have some active cannabinoids that help to open up the airways, but once those wear off I found (in the experience with colds, etc) that my throat would just feel 5x worse after a couple hours


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Re: Asthma & Marijuana [Re: StickyWater]
    #5942543 - 08/07/06 10:49 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

My buddy had some Chronic asthma it was really bad shit, and his inhaler was not doing shit, so for his medicine he would bust out his bong and he would rip it so hard that he would koff out really bad every time... he did that straight for 2 months and now his asthma never flare's up..

It's because he koffed so hard so often.

Also My cousin's boy friend has medical marijuana that was prescribed by his doctar for asthma.


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Re: Asthma & Marijuana [Re: MauiGanjaMonster]
    #5942553 - 08/07/06 10:54 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

Back when i was a kid, i used to have asthma attacks every month or so, but after i started smoking, i havent had 1,


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Re: Asthma & Marijuana [Re: 2859558484]
    #5942589 - 08/07/06 11:07 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

^These are the types of things I was talking about...You guys think its different for different people or do you think it helps for everyone with asthma in some way.

That was the first I heard of it being perscribed to someone for asthma. If a doctor is saying its going to help that must mean theres a benefit. Is there an online site that talks of benefits?


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Re: Asthma & Marijuana [Re: MrFantasy]
    #5948840 - 08/09/06 09:24 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

THC is a bronchial dilator, so as long as your lungs don't react negatively to the smoke (and this is a complete paradox, because smoke is always bad for your lungs, ALWAYS!) it can be beneficial for asthma.

the thing is smoke fucks up your ability to clean your lungs out, and damages the hairs in them, so even though THC acts as a great expectorant, and can really profoundly open up your airways...... in the end it's probably going to mess your lungs up pretty bad.

now if you had a high quality vaporizer and high quality buds it might be good or neutral for asthma/lungs though...... but my experience with the lightbulb vaporizer is that it still made my lungs dirty and hurt, just not nearly as much as smoking.


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Re: Asthma & Marijuana [Re: StickyWater]
    #5948892 - 08/09/06 09:43 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

Quote:

StickyWater said:
Asthma isn't just having problems breathing.

Asthma is a disease triggered usually by something in the air, weather, stress, illness, etc. Problems breathing after smoking is because your lungs are full of crap, problems breathing from asthma are because your airways are shut, full of excessive mucus, and your chest is tightening. Try clenching your throat shut (just enough so you can still breath) and try breathing through it. Add onto that the forced labor of inhaling with a tense chest and the pain of all that mucus vibrating throughout your entire lungs, I'd much rather have a little difficulty breathing from smoking...

And again, I'd just like to say if you have asthma DON'T RUN! A gym teacher didn't believe I had asthma problems in grade 4 and I had to spend the next 12 hours hooked up to a machine to monitor my heart to make sure I was able to get enough oxygen into my blood under my own power while they pumped some gas into the room to open my lungs and clear them out.

I'd post some articles, etc about why smoking with asthma is risky, but I feel this is just too obvious and there's just too many articles to pick from. Do a search for "smoking and asthma" and you'll immediately find a bunch of articles explaining why smoke is bad for asthmatics.

To the original poster and anyone else who may have asthma, I'm sure you already know this but a bit of advice, while you're having an attack avoid milk, ice cream or other milk products as this will only end up making breathing harder and clogging your throat with more crap.




You are so full of shit.

First off, don't post advice on a medical condition if you don't have a medical degree. Second, there are plenty of Olympic runners, swimmers, gymnasts, etc that compete with asthma every day of their lives - and they still run. The worst thing you can do for asthma is to not keep active. Just because you had an asthma attack in Grade 4 that was aggravated by running doesn't mean you have the authority to tell other asthmatics not to run. If you have an opinion, STATE IT AS OPINION, do not state it as medical fact.

To the original poster, while I don't have any of websites right in front of me, you could probably google this topic. Marijuana is currently in research phase for it's treatment in asthma. Now, that doesn't mean you can go smoke up when you're having an asthma attack. If I remember correctly, doctors are trying to find a way to filter the tar out of it (which you already know is incredibly bad for your lungs) and use that substance for asthmatics. The thinking behind this is that marijuana makes you cough, and therefore will help to open your airways and help you expel mucus more efficiently.

Again, that isn't a go ahead to smoke a bowl when you're having an attack. As it stands, nebulizer treatments and emergency inhalers are your best chance against an (asthma) attack.


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