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    #5940297 - 08/07/06 10:02 AM (17 years, 5 months ago)

Man its been a good ten years since Ive tried shrooms again. The main reason is because i kept having trips were i thought i was the only one who could change the world. I kept thinking the that when i was on shrooms it took me into the place that the bible talks about when the earth was made. The way it was before Adam and Eve got us kicked out. I kept thinking that i was the only one who could bring us back to that place. So when I was on the trip i thought everyone was on it. And i had to choose which place to stay. If I choose the place i was in while on shrooms then everyone would be there. Any whey! So Ive gone and did the shrooms again and bam!! It all happened again. Its like the ten years never happened or helped. It was the same story were i get really scared and dint want to stay there. The crazy thing is that when i was walking every thing was so pretty. But when i changed my mind because i thought it was to big of a choice for me and turned to go home everything started to become dry and dead looking and evil. Even the air and my skin. And i kept thinking to myself you're choosing death. And when i got home my wife had to take care of me. She had the TV on and every channel she went to had something to do with evil. Like drugs, murder, sex, hate and death. It seemed like i had to choose for the world to take us back to the place of peace. whats up with all that? can anybody help me. Ive done shrooms many many times. i just don't like what keeps going on. The shroom i eat are Treasure Coast shrooms picked fresh by me in FL.


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Re: Not agian !!!!! [Re: bluecollarboy]
    #5940334 - 08/07/06 10:21 AM (17 years, 5 months ago)

well... as i see it you're just scared to let go :shrug:
once you tell your self "i can't" that's when things get ugly... watching TV never did anything good for anyone :smirk:
i can see all that shit on TV when i'm sober (it's hard to find anything alse really)

the world is much more simple then people make it out to be... there's not much going on but life...

welcome to the shroomery!
i bet other people will soon chime with their prespective but if you're trully interested in what shrooms have to offer it's YOU who has to do the thinking and find out what you're trying to tell your self!

do you belive in god BTW? do you think YOU are god?


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Re: Not agian !!!!! [Re: Simisu]
    #5940513 - 08/07/06 11:27 AM (17 years, 5 months ago)

Yeah, I think you need to focus on changing that space yourself by knowing that you CAN - a little bit of confidence is required.  Don 't be afraid to twist it and mold it into something else... part of the reason I like mushrooms is because it lets me start from square one on my ideas, and eventually through deductive logic you come up with some crazy conclusions about the world, which often require fine tuning.  Sounds to me like you came to a profound conclusion, but one with some fallacies which either aren't clearly apparent to you or its just such a powerful experience you don't want to reject it.  I hope that makes sense.

I think I know exactly the type of headspace you're falling into every time. First, don't be afraid of falling back into that place - because if you do fear it, you're only constantly manifesting the past in your head with no room for creation, which I think is what happened even 10 years later.  It was kind of there in the back of your mind (your subconcious), you were worried about it happening again perhaps, and we tend to manifest whatever is on our mind on psychedelics.  You're basically triggering a flashback of memory and the experience won't get any better because it never did before in those past experiences. 

Here's what you need to know. 

YOU ARE ALWAYS THE CREATOR.  YOU CAN TURN ANYTHING IN YOUR MIND AROUND. 

Take a leap of faith, reject this notion you've created, with confidence that it will benefit you to do so.

The fallacy I think is that you're putting the world's problems on your shoulders (which makes me think you're probably a good person with some ambition to do the world good), thinking you have this choice to be either a savior or nobody at all.  I think thats a part of the psychedelic charm - it can turn a 'nobody' into super men/women by letting them realize they have all this power at their disposal.

If you want to relate it to the ideas of Christianity, Jesus was the man who already did what you think the mushrooms are asking you to do - to sacrifice everything for the sins of mankind.  I suppose you don't need to have faith in Christ to use this idea to your benefit.

Like Simisu said, the whole "I can't" thing is like putting your experience in a funnel, where the 'letting go' point is at exit of the funnel.  The closer you get to it, the closer all these ideas and concepts you've created are going to come face to face with you, and if you've establish any sort of "I can't",  you end up grasping onto the sides of the funnel for dear life. 

Hope this helps a bit, sometimes the only answer is to take a higher dose and dive in head first, assuming you are experienced :smile:


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Re: Not agian !!!!! [Re: kake]
    #5940567 - 08/07/06 11:44 AM (17 years, 5 months ago)

BTW: the first time I found a 'trick' to letting go was, funny enough, by listening to the suggestive lyrics of this string cheese incident song, 'close your eyes'.

here are the lyrics

Spent his whole life to get where he is
Nothing going to bring him down
His father was a man who worked so hard
Never could be around
Mama always wanted the best for him
Mama said make me proud
Too much, too fast, too little, too late
It all goes round can’t get away

Chorus:
Close your eyes and look inside
And see what you can find
Open your mind and take the time and learn from soul

Loves the kids, loves the wife
And wonders if there’s more
Looks around and sees his friends
All been done before
Goes to church on the holidays
Looking for something to light his way
Living for then and not for now
He wants to be free but he doesn’t know how

Chorus x2

Open wide

From Deep Inside

Open wide
He lost his way he’s off the path
Got to keep moving can’t go back
Where he is and where he was
Will never be the same
The freedom that he searches for
Has no key, it’s an open door
The love he needs and hopes to find
Has been with him all the time

Chorus x 2

Open Wide

From Deep Inside

Open Wide

All he knows is what he sees
So much more behind the scenes

Open wide


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Re: Not agian !!!!! [Re: kake]
    #5940767 - 08/07/06 12:56 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

Thanks!


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Re: Not agian !!!!! [Re: bluecollarboy]
    #5940790 - 08/07/06 01:02 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

Hey my wife want to try shrooms. I just dried some fresh (Treasure Coast) out. How much should i give her? I looked at the shroom calc. but i would like to hear it from one of you. I don't want to blow her mind with visions but would like her to see the buety of nature like never before. Please remember these are dry mushrooms!!


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Re: Not agian !!!!! [Re: bluecollarboy]
    #5941635 - 08/07/06 06:13 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

Kake that was a VERY nice post!
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Re: Not agian !!!!! [Re: bluecollarboy]
    #5941933 - 08/07/06 07:46 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

I'd say 1.5g is a good dose to start.  She won't trip out, she'll probably just laugh a lot and get a feel for the general vibe.  If she really like thats, try upping it to 2g the next time and see where it goes :smile:


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Re: Not agian !!!!! [Re: bluecollarboy]
    #5942841 - 08/08/06 12:25 AM (17 years, 5 months ago)

""..only one who could change the world.""

What if it was right, only; "..only one who could change your world." ..
And, we co-create/-created every, and all!?

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Re: Not agian !!!!! [Re: Gomp]
    #5943863 - 08/08/06 11:49 AM (17 years, 5 months ago)

I always recommend an 1/8th for new commers. I first used the same logic as said above but I have noticed that usually leaves most people hanging. 2 grams for most ppl won't really give them hardly any visuals and will just give them a nice body high with a little bit of mind fuck.

An 1/8th will send them closer to the edge but not over it. Most people can handle an 1/8th and usually like it. Again this is from my perspective. I don't know how potent your shrooms are, but an 1/8th usually works with my shrooms.

And for your trippin problem I would just really listen to what people have to say here. You can get some really good advice. If it were me I would just take a higher dose and face your problems. There is a chance it might be a really tough experience to go through but you will come out a better person. You need to face that fear and get through it.

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You guys are great! Thanks!!! [Re: kungpow]
    #8072621 - 02/26/08 01:43 PM (15 years, 10 months ago)

Thanks for the help! Truthfully I'm scared to face my fears but willing. Please pray for me. PEACE!


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Re: You guys are great! Thanks!!! [Re: bluecollarboy]
    #8076066 - 02/27/08 05:32 AM (15 years, 10 months ago)

Wow that is strange you replied like two years later. LOL


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Re: You guys are great! Thanks!!! [Re: kungpow]
    #8078134 - 02/27/08 05:26 PM (15 years, 10 months ago)

I'm not sure if you are still actively viewing this thread, but I thought I'd throw in my 2 cents. I'm not the best tripper either. I tend to get paranoid and stop enjoying it. However, after it is all over I feel stronger than before I tripped. Each time I shroom, the trip gets more enjoyable. It seems like you've passed up this phase a long time ago. I'm not a professional or anything but here's what I suggest you do:

-Make a realistic goal for yourself before the trip (realistic, yet achievable for yourself).
-Remain calm and positive (easier said than done)
-Stay distracted with this goal the entire trip or until you feel comfortable enough to let your mind wonder.
-Maybe make a small note for yourself or have your wife make you one to keep in your pocket that has some sort of comforting message on it.

If you set this "goal" up for yourself, it may take the place of you feeling responsible for astronomical creation. Be creative about this, and you can probably find a way around it. You can also continue trying to face this and possibly come to an ultimate conclusion.

Keep it positive bro. Hope this helps!


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