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Re: Benzodiazapine/mushroom question. [Re: EquilibriuM]
    #5946244 - 08/09/06 12:07 AM (17 years, 5 months ago)

Easy to say from someone that never bad a panic attack every time they trip without benzos. Shit I need benzos when I'm sober, if I trip without them I am lost. Also, not everyone is Ubber 133t like yourself, so don't hate.


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Re: Benzodiazapine/mushroom question. [Re: twiggedoubt]
    #5946784 - 08/09/06 08:24 AM (17 years, 5 months ago)

Living life on those things is not healthy. I'm not "Ubber 133t" or any other kind of elitist bullshit you want to project at me. I'm just a man and I understand that I shouldn't rely on drugs that hinder my awareness in daily life. Those things fuck up your head man. I understand reality can be difficult to deal with, but you're here and your alive, so be real.


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Re: Benzodiazapine/mushroom question. [Re: EquilibriuM]
    #5946892 - 08/09/06 09:53 AM (17 years, 5 months ago)

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Living life on those things is not healthy. I'm not "Ubber 133t" or any other kind of elitist bullshit you want to project at me. I'm just a man and I understand that I shouldn't rely on drugs that hinder my awareness in daily life. Those things fuck up your head man. I understand reality can be difficult to deal with, but you're here and your alive, so be real.





Back and forth, back and forth...

A slight hypoactivity or hyperactivity of certain proteins associated with the GABA receptor system can greatly fluctuate levels of anxiety within an individual. So, if an individual is born with a hypoactivity or hyperactivity of a certain protein, it is probable to see why some individuals may experience higher levels of anxiety, or lower levels, than others.

As far as whether or not they should be medicated, sterilized, blah ba blah blah blah. Point is, things are quite complicated on a molecular level and until we fully understand the processes involved, nobody can generate a definitive answer on the subject.

That said, I agree with many aspects of your post, Equilibrium, but not everyone is programmed like you or me... etc... And Benzos are definitely not a super-drug, they make you feel retarded and they work by essentially releasing chlorites into neurons which results in cell sedation. CHLORINE. Supposedly for some people they "work," although I must question the competency of a professional individual working under the influence of such medication.

I do enjoy them recreationally with a good ale, though. hahahah


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Re: Benzodiazapine/mushroom question. [Re: Herbus]
    #5948307 - 08/09/06 06:37 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

I'm going to give it a shot.


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Re: Benzodiazapine/mushroom question. [Re: psychofanatic]
    #5964013 - 08/14/06 08:18 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

Hey i took a xanax bar the other day and after about an hour i felt real sick and nuasious. Is that normal? Can i do anything, or take anything with it next time to prevent this? I've taken up to two xanax bars at the same time before in the past and never felt the least bit sick. wtf


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Re: Benzodiazapine/mushroom question. [Re: psychofanatic]
    #5982439 - 08/20/06 09:26 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

Thanks, I'm going to give it a shot. After all if worse comes to worse i could take a bunch of xanax and fall asleep to abort the trip, right?


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Re: Benzodiazapine/mushroom question. [Re: psychofanatic]
    #5983483 - 08/21/06 10:24 AM (17 years, 5 months ago)

Maybe temazapam ??,I used to take that when I had panic attacks


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Re: psychiatric medication [Re: EquilibriuM]
    #5984020 - 08/21/06 02:47 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

I don't think there's any question that psychiatric medication such as benzodiazepines have a legitimate use and an illegitimate use. They are the most effective drug to use for anxiety -- the "magic bullet". Unfortunately, some doctors and psychiatrists don't really understand how to prescribe these drugs correctly, and end up overprescribing at the expense of therapy, which should always come first.

I wouldn't expect anyone who has not had an anxiety attack to really understand how helpful these medicines can be. Anxiety is normal to a certain extent, beyond which it is unhealthy and potentially debilitating. Having a panic attack is a horrible experience, particularly if it occurs out of the blue.
You basically experience the same level of anxiety that a person would if they came face-to-face with a grizzly bear protecting her young; except you're not in the forest, you're at a dinner party. Your body mobilizes for the "fight-or-flight" response, and you either want to run out of there screaming or shoot everyone; (at least, that was my experience a few times.)

However, with a combination of (mainly) cognitive/behavioral therapy and some well-prescribed (i.e. the least amount or potency possible in order to make progress) medication, I basically never get panic attacks any more.


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Re: psychiatric medication [Re: Land_Crab]
    #5988448 - 08/23/06 12:03 AM (17 years, 5 months ago)

Many drs won't even script benzos, especially to people that have drug problems. It sure helped me though in the dose they gave me, and many times that dose needs to be raised due to tolerence. Of course their is a ceiling, but its different in everyone.


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Re: psychiatric medication [Re: twiggedoubt]
    #5988725 - 08/23/06 04:22 AM (17 years, 5 months ago)

I'm going the 24th to my shrink to analyse my condition of anxiety/panic attacks also mentioning insomnia occasionally making my sleep habits a drag. The only drug I can see being prescribed is Xanax. Buspar is for long-term and isn't for short-term, which is what I have. I say this not because of its half-life but because of its time needed until ti effects you..(1-2weeks). So buspar wouldn't do anything for you if you did shrooms and wanted relief. I'm sure I'll get cognitive behavioral therapy followed by xanax.

Im going to say that SNRI/SSRI's or anti-depressants in general wont be tolerated with me due to a tragic experience with a family meber taking prozac/zoloft.


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Re: psychiatric medication [Re: Muppet69_420]
    #5988876 - 08/23/06 08:24 AM (17 years, 5 months ago)

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The only drug I can see being prescribed is Xanax.




Think again. Benzos are rarely prescribed by doctors anymore due to their short half life and dependency. Don't be surprised if Paxil, Lexapro, Zoloft, or Prozac are prescribed. While these drugs, commonly known as Selective Serotonin Reuptake Inhibitors (SSRIs), will help with the symptoms of anxiety and/or panic disorder, they do take a couple of weeks before the benefits will start to show.

I highly recommend you seek alternative means for your anxiety/panic disorder. If you do see a psychiatrist, talk to them about cognitive behavioral therapy (CBT). The only cure for anxiety is you, period. You are the only one who can rid yourself of anxiety and panic disorders. Taking drugs and/or talking about your anxiety will only make it worse in some cases and will not be the ultimate solution. Drugs only mask the symptoms of anxiety. Come off the drugs and the anxiety is still there.

Want some real help? Check out the Linden Method.

Good luck to you.


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Re: psychiatric medication [Re: Muppet69_420]
    #6000286 - 08/26/06 10:46 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

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Muppet69_420 said:
I'm going the 24th to my shrink to analyse my condition of anxiety/panic attacks also mentioning insomnia occasionally making my sleep habits a drag. The only drug I can see being prescribed is Xanax. Buspar is for long-term and isn't for short-term, which is what I have. I say this not because of its half-life but because of its time needed until ti effects you..(1-2weeks). So buspar wouldn't do anything for you if you did shrooms and wanted relief. I'm sure I'll get cognitive behavioral therapy followed by xanax.

Im going to say that SNRI/SSRI's or anti-depressants in general wont be tolerated with me due to a tragic experience with a family meber taking prozac/zoloft.




What tragic experience?


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