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OfflineLazyCrash
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Another stupid cake-tripping question.
    #5940251 - 08/07/06 09:44 AM (17 years, 5 months ago)

Ok, I'm not going to ask HOW TO, or SHOULD I, or WOULD YOU....

...but I know theres a number of you who have eaten cakes for tripping.

My question is...how long after the last fruit would these cakes be ok to trip off of (using a blender and OJ)? The last flush occured almost 2 weeks ago, and the cakes have been sitting in my fruiting chamber still since then. The only shrooms I have I must save, but I'd like to trip and would like to get all I can out of these cakes I have left.

So, would a cake that has stopped fruiting 2 weeks ago still be safe to ingest with the blender/OJ method?


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Re: Another stupid cake-tripping question. [Re: LazyCrash]
    #5940451 - 08/07/06 11:11 AM (17 years, 5 months ago)

I take it your cake is made of something edible, unlike vermiculite which you sure as hell shouldnt chop up in a blender and drink with oj. I assume you knew that though

If the cake is still healthy and doesnt smell terrible, its probably safe to eat. I have boiled up some pretty rank old cakes, but its not like they were dead and rotting.

I have boiled crushed cakes and strained the water to make tea. That works pretty well.


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You moron. Material is material is material.  No 'thing' fixes any situation.  If anything were so simple we would be living in a much better world.[/quote] <-----the dumbest thing I have ever read in my life.
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Re: Another stupid cake-tripping question. [Re: yageman]
    #5940574 - 08/07/06 11:46 AM (17 years, 5 months ago)

Well they do have verm, but obviously I will be filtering it out.

It looks like the myc might be pretty much dead, but no signs of rotting and no hint of a bad odor. So, I guess I will go for it.

Thanks for the input.


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Re: Another stupid cake-tripping question. [Re: LazyCrash]
    #5940579 - 08/07/06 11:49 AM (17 years, 5 months ago)

Not really sure how you would go about filtering out all of that vermiculite, but I also have never tried this method.


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Re: Another stupid cake-tripping question. [Re: Lily_Morgan]
    #5940604 - 08/07/06 11:57 AM (17 years, 5 months ago)

Well the blender will shred everything up, and i have three different filters to use, each getting finer, so hopefully I will be left with only juice and very minimal verm....although I really don't see any catastrophic health problems coming from ingesting a small amount of verm anyway.


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Re: Another stupid cake-tripping question. [Re: LazyCrash]
    #5940646 - 08/07/06 12:16 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

you probably wont feel anything

except sick :lol:


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Re: Another stupid cake-tripping question. [Re: Atheist]
    #5942538 - 08/07/06 10:47 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

SpicyTunaRoll Really must not know what he is talking about. Although he usually seems to know a thing or two.

People who eat an 8th like candy can also very easily feel even one single boiled cake. You can get all the vermiculite out if you really try. It would be harder to get it all out if you used a blender. I prefer crushing them. If you use a blender you can try hard, but it will still be very difficult to get all the vermiculite out. It looks like shiny crap in your tea....

Cakes can be very effective. They also dont make you sick if you prepare them correctly.

I just thought I would revive this thread to make the point that what spicytunaroll said is just not right. If you "cant" feel even one well prepared cake, you are over exadurating, or you really cant feel it. Which is your own issue. Most people can hopefully feel even one cake. Seriously.


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You moron. Material is material is material.  No 'thing' fixes any situation.  If anything were so simple we would be living in a much better world.[/quote] <-----the dumbest thing I have ever read in my life.
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Re: Another stupid cake-tripping question. [Re: LazyCrash]
    #5942993 - 08/08/06 01:19 AM (17 years, 5 months ago)

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LazyCrash said:
Well the blender will shred everything up, and i have three different filters to use, each getting finer, so hopefully I will be left with only juice and very minimal verm....although I really don't see any catastrophic health problems coming from ingesting a small amount of verm anyway.




do some researcher homie. vermiculite, as pure as it comes, is a carcinogen and you may as well just stick your stomach in the microwave for a couple minutes and then inject it with 3 syringe fulls of yellow number 5 if your really want cancer bad enough to eat vermiculite.

make sure you get ALL the verm out, because there is little almost invisible, shiny particles that may not be filtered out and will equal to a good pebble of verm or two.


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Re: Another stupid cake-tripping question. [Re: beatnicknick]
    #5943040 - 08/08/06 01:41 AM (17 years, 5 months ago)

Ill have to look that up myself beatnicknick. I am just that interested in the whole idea of it.........

Im pretty sure you are very wrong about this natural "rock" being a carcinogen. Im almost 100% certain.

As for what happens when you dont get the vermiculite out of the tea, I dont know(Its not good for you). Letting that shit settle does alot. Vermiculite does not float for long dude.

Carcinogen, id tend to think not....... Ill get back to you about your research beatnicknick.
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You moron. Material is material is material.  No 'thing' fixes any situation.  If anything were so simple we would be living in a much better world.[/quote] <-----the dumbest thing I have ever read in my life.
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Re: Another stupid cake-tripping question. [Re: yageman]
    #5943067 - 08/08/06 01:57 AM (17 years, 5 months ago)

People are exposed to asbestos mainly through inhaling fibers in the air they breathe. This may occur when mining and processing asbestos, producing asbestos-containing products, or installing asbestos insulation. It may also occur when older asbestos-containing materials begin to break down. In any of these situations, asbestos fibers tend to create a dust composed of tiny particles that can float in the air. In addition, asbestos can enter the body through ingestion. This may occur when people consume contaminated food or liquids (such as water that flows through asbestos cement pipes). It may also occur when people cough up asbestos they have inhaled, then swallow their saliva.

Many people are exposed to very low levels of naturally occurring asbestos in outdoor air as a result of erosion of asbestos-bearing rocks. The potential for such exposure is higher in areas where rocks have higher asbestos content. After the collapse of the World Trade Center in 2001, there was concern about the presence of asbestos in the dust. Recommendations were made for testing and cleaning of residences in Lower Manhattan to minimize any health risks from such exposures.

It is considered a carcinogen when inhaled. Thats all I have read about in various articles. It does make you think though. What makes a cancer causing agent a carcinogen. There is no doubt that if you inhale asbestos you can get very ill over time.

To ingest a tea, or an extract like that is certainly less important as long as you get all the asbestos out as far as I understand. Its just a rock. A fiberous rock.........

I have boiled cakes and gotten every shiny particle out.

Let me know if I have exposed myself to asbestos within the gut.
That would blow my mind. I did always know that inhaling such dust is inherently bad for you and could be considered a carcinogen,(produces abnormal cellulare growth).

More info on that would be appreciated. It could be one more good reason that you should use grains if you intend on growing mushrooms and "eating" the cakes too.


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You moron. Material is material is material.  No 'thing' fixes any situation.  If anything were so simple we would be living in a much better world.[/quote] <-----the dumbest thing I have ever read in my life.
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Re: Another stupid cake-tripping question. [Re: yageman]
    #5943197 - 08/08/06 03:30 AM (17 years, 5 months ago)

i have tried the boiling to make tea method by chopping up, and throwing in a pot of boiling water...the first time i used one cake and nothing happened. The second time i used two cakes and nothing happened. The third time i tried 10 cakes, and split with my friend...and still...nothing happened. I will not subject myself to drinking that horrible tea ever again for nothing. You should not try it, and would be better off waiting for a flush from a new cake. You should always have a good cycle going, and not waiting for your cakes to be spent before starting a new batch...that way you dont have to scrounge for a trip.


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Re: Another stupid cake-tripping question. [Re: yageman]
    #5943202 - 08/08/06 03:33 AM (17 years, 5 months ago)

Ok, so I'll probably crumble the cakes instead of use the blender.

As far as verm being a carcinogen, I do things that are much worse for my health, smoking being just one...but crumbling them should avoid even more verm being ingested.

As far as potency goes, my tolerance is very average, and I'm guessing two cakes will get me where I want to be...just an enjoyable afternoon, and if it turns out I actually trip real hard, well thats not a big problem either.

Thanks for all the added input into the thread.


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Re: Another stupid cake-tripping question. [Re: LazyCrash]
    #5944193 - 08/08/06 01:31 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

As far as I know, vermiculite isnt toxic when consumed orally.

The danger comes with inhaling the dust, ala asbestos.


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