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liamtheloser
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Well, I'm still scared...
#5938249 - 08/06/06 08:29 PM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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So this weekend was my family reunion... We all get together and go camping for our yearly reunion. Me and a few cousins started off friday night getting completely stoned out of our minds on my luscious northwest purp, had a few beers, then went to bed... Well, on saturday we did the whole wake and bake thing, and then my cousins went to take showers and get dressed/etc. Well, they ended up taking a while, so I decided to pop 2 of my mushroom capsules (0000 size). I thought I had weighed 5 of them out to just under 5 grams, so I took roughly 2 grams, I was having fun, time was passing by awfully fast, so I took another capsule. Ok, still chillin, still remaining calm, we decide to go walk to the store and get some ice cream... Well, we went to the store, got ice cream, then smoked 3 bowls... By the time we had gotten back, I had eaten the rest of the shroom capsules, and I sat down in a chair and was just trying to enjoy myself... All of a sudden my vision goes black then flashes back on, and it felt like I had dropped an inch into the ground in a split second. Then everything around me started changing... the mountains were going away, then coming back, it was really rather amazing... But then someone tried to talk to me, and I realized this was not going to happen. I started panicking and I decided to go to my tent and lay down and enjoy myself in there... in the comfort of my blankie and pillow. Here's where it got too bad I just couldn't handle it...
If I closed my eyes, I saw images and things I could not handle seeing, but as soon as I opened them, the tent was trying to swallow me, so I was closing my eyes for 10 seconds, then opening them for a few seconds, and I did this for about 3 hours. I tried to smoke a cigarette, but it was so foreign... I felt completely detached from what I was doing, so I had to stop... My mind was racing in all sorts of directions, and people voices were changing... They'd be talking to eachother outside my tent, and then all of a sudden, they'd be speaking a different language, and then they'd be singing... It was terrible. I had the worst, most extreme trip of my life and I will never accidently do that large of a dose ever again... That's what I get for bringing along ALL of my shrooms on my little adventure. Today I still feel haggard and detached, I'm emotionally not here like I used to be... I feel like this is all still part of my trip and that I'm still flying around in my head. Nothing seems real to me. I think I may have bent reality so far in my head, that reality itself will never be the same for me.
Anyways, I believe the lesson I learned was... Don't do 5 grams of mushrooms, drink a bunch of orange juice, then get blazed out of your mind.
Never again...
Never
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Re: Well, I'm still scared... [Re: liamtheloser]
#5938638 - 08/06/06 10:09 PM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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hahaha try 7 I did, gl with 7 man it is a good 12 hour intense scary? then peacefull trip ever.
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Re: Well, I'm still scared... [Re: mikeownow]
#5938758 - 08/06/06 10:32 PM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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heroic doses=k3y
to me its really not worth it unless i go out that far
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Re: Well, I'm still scared... [Re: zSDMF]
#5938793 - 08/06/06 10:37 PM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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thats pretty far out there dude.
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Re: Well, I'm still scared... [Re: liamtheloser]
#5938801 - 08/06/06 10:38 PM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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Im planning on taking 7 grams on Tues. Some potent cubensis
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Re: Well, I'm still scared... [Re: Abrainspot]
#5938816 - 08/06/06 10:40 PM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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jst31 said: Im planning on taking 7 grams on Tues. Some potent cubensis
Goooooood luck with it =P.
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Re: Well, I'm still scared... [Re: liamtheloser]
#5938994 - 08/06/06 11:07 PM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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liamtheloser said: Today I still feel haggard and detached, I'm emotionally not here like I used to be... I feel like this is all still part of my trip and that I'm still flying around in my head. Nothing seems real to me. I think I may have bent reality so far in my head, that reality itself will never be the same for me.
I feel the same way after a large dose trip where things were a little too intense. While the effects of the drug may have worn off, your mind is still settling down from the experience. This could take a few days before things return to normal. During those rough spots your mind thought you were in danger and probably hasn't quite figured out that things are normal now. Give your mind a rest for a few days and you should be okay.
If issues come up over the next few days, remember that you are not in any danger. You are no longer under the influence of the drug. I know I get a little bit of anxiety after a long intense trip, especially 24 hours after. I usually will have very vivid dreams about tripping, but I know it's just my mind remembering the experience. The average person does not experience high levels of psychedelic drugs, so it's perfectly normal to feel the way you are.
If you still feel detached in a few days, shoot me a PM and I can help you through some of those rough spots. Anxiety is a real emotion commonly brought on by intense psychedelic experiences and can get the better of you if you let it. Don't dwell on your bad thoughts, let them go, they mean nothing.
We should form a support group here for people who have had bad psychedelic experiences. Seriously.
Either way, good luck to you.
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Re: Well, I'm still scared... [Re: Wronguy]
#5939348 - 08/07/06 12:06 AM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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well, you got pwned.
you asked for it.
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Re: Well, I'm still scared... [Re: indica]
#5939391 - 08/07/06 12:18 AM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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LOL Welcome to an intense trip. I can almost assure you that what happened was completely safe. It was all in your head and you weren't ready to let go. I wouldn't recommend dosing that high again unless you're ready to let go.
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liamtheloser
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Re: Well, I'm still scared... [Re: Newbie]
#5939412 - 08/07/06 12:23 AM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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It wasn't just an intense trip... It was outer space, as far as the levels go... this was definately a 5, I felt completely detached from everything... nothing was real, not even the environment i was in... I knew somewhere in my head I was in a tent in the state of washington, but when i opened my eyes, i wasn't anywhere in particular, and it wasn't me... i was so many people, all with a different voice, all saying something completely horrible... I let go completely, because there was nothing to hold on to... I was gone, I was somewhere completely different. Anyways, I'm going to bed... hopefully I'll feel better in the morning.
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Re: Well, I'm still scared... [Re: liamtheloser]
#5939481 - 08/07/06 12:47 AM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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but you were still fighting it.
ego death is like...
never having existed, never going to and never actually existing at all in the first place and no knowledge of such existence for however long it takes to get out of it
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Re: Well, I'm still scared... [Re: indica]
#5939547 - 08/07/06 01:09 AM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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Sounds intense. I plan on taking 5g's soon, just because!
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Re: Well, I'm still scared... [Re: papixx]
#5939611 - 08/07/06 01:42 AM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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First post, that sounds like a crazy expirence man, I hope you feel better. I have never gone on a seriously intense trip like that in my life yet, but I am looking forward to it. Can you have a really intense good trip? Or are most of the extremely intense ones bad?
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Yes you can have an intense and good trip.
Its pretty hard on alot of people though. Those who take such trips all know how intimidating it can be when youre in there.
I have had some terrifying trips, but I certainly wouldnt call them bad trips.
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Re: Well, I'm still scared... [Re: yageman]
#5939807 - 08/07/06 03:16 AM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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Good intense trips are possible... They just require a VERY secure mind.
I'm assuming you were just dosing for shits and giggles since you were with your cousins? This could have played a part of it... I've never met anyone who's had a good trip on a large dose who hasn't taken the experience seriously and treated it as such.
I'm not saying it would be impossible to dose that much recreationally, I'm just saying that these little fungi seem to have a tendency to beat the shit out of anyone who doesn't give them a certain amount of respect when there's enough of them, and even then...
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Re: Well, I'm still scared... [Re: liamtheloser]
#5940465 - 08/07/06 11:13 AM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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Read 'Be Here Now' and 'The Psychedelic Experience.'
After you get your ass beaten by the mushies, these two books really help in bringing you "back to Earth." I always have copies nearby whenever I trip, and I have given out lots of copies to friends who I knew needed them.
Just read them, and you may not feel so out of it. Good words in those books.
Right now, it's important you integrate what you've experienced. Don't force it. Integration takes time. Relax, take gentle care of yourself, and realize that you've had an amazingly powerful experience. Sounds like you had the type of trip I go for every time. 
Just give yourself time. Relax. Be here now. Things will unravel as they will.
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liamtheloser
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Re: Well, I'm still scared... [Re: MOTH]
#5942249 - 08/07/06 09:01 PM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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Thanks to all the people who have offered advice, I really was freaking out last night and that was well past the 24 hour mark... I'm feeling a little more normal today, but I still feel like nothing is worth anything...
Anyways, thanks again, your advice has helped me get through this weird apathy.
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Re: Well, I'm still scared... [Re: liamtheloser]
#5948884 - 08/09/06 09:40 PM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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there's no reason to be so hard on yourself to do something like that.
3 bowls? 5 grams?
what became of subtlety?
Look.
You can get so much out of the finer side of things that there is almost no reason to go over the edge. And when you do "go over" it's becuase you really respect the plant you are using, and you use just the right amount to get what you wanted, so the new found depth is a welcome experience.
Look.
3 bowls of anything is pretty wasteful.
Let me tell you, I had some low quality commercial weed. When I was using it respectfully, one bowl would be enough to go pretty far. Far enough that I'm pretty sure that there is another "life" to cross into and that it reminds me of being someone else and discovering the secrets to marijuana use...... and that someone had a great life, a really nice house.... man he had a nice life.
But at the same time it felt wrong. My breathing was shallow, nose clogged up, the thought "suicide" [such as smoking cannabis being suicide] popped up, making me think "no this isn't right to be doing and we shouldn't do it" and I don't know if that's just because of the smoke inhalation, or what it is..... but the space marijuana takes you does not seem animated or lively, it seems like it's just your own space, no other dimension involved particularly.
However marijuana has taken me to manfiestation of clear white light. Listen well if you didn't read any of that, listen to this. Now when I smoked, I did not smoke a lot. I was a novice and was still respectful, not in my wake and bake be stoned 24/7 like a fool phase yet..... and i was just chilling to some music. and just by simply paying attention to my energy flow which marijuana activated, I BECAME WHITE LIGHT for a brief moment.
Now........ if I had smoked up 6 bowls of this stuff (which I assume is like smoking 3 bowls of good weed) and I became white light... I would have been like you. I would have been totally freaked and just waiting for it to end......
but this white light was welcome, intense, but curious.
Now let me tell you what my abuse of marijuana did to me, and I don't even want to consider what mushroom abuse is like....
but basically I would be sitting around, and I'd get an uncontrollable spasm.... i would focus on a chakra and it would EXPLODE in my body in a painful way where i seize up and have no control for like a half second, like lightning going off.... and i'd be like oh man I don't want that to happen again and then just like you are falling asleep, and walking down an imaginary street and trip over the curb and as you are falling it jolts you awake violently.... I'd just keep drifting in and out.
in fact that's probably what it was, me zoning into light sleep.
but i really fucked up my chakras bad because of this, they EXPLODED and the force from the root didn't generally make it all the way up the spine.
I went from a guy sitting in a chair, uniting his energy flow at the navel and manfiesting clear light.... to a guy who completely broke his energetic system (at least as far as I suppose.... I don't know what was happening).
it is completely ABSURD to be smoking 3 bowls of anything....... even if it's mids or commercials man... you can so damn high off one bowl if you are really truely respectful of the cannabis, don't use it very much...... and jsut very very gradually feel the dose out.
take a tiny hit and sit and breathe and feel. then after a while take another tiny. pretty soon you are at the perfect synthesis.
it's like enjoying a fine glass of wine vs pounding back 6 shots and being in hell.
DON'T DO THIS TO YOURSELF AGAIN.
you were having a great time, and then you overshot it. now.... i know how that is, I did it with DXM and it really freaked me out so bad and gave me a lasting anxiety disorder which I overcame though.....
and i've done it with liquor too... I know how it is.
that's because you aren't respectful. you're already out of your head and you think well let's just get fucked.
getting fucked is more like being raped violently.
there's no sense.
you sit yourself down to have a shroom session and if you are taking caps, you take a few, very very very very gradually over time being very respectful to your brain, and then you'll have the perfect dose... whether the perfect dose is a half a gram and you like it subtle, or it's almost as strong as that day camping, but you'll be WHERE you WANT to be, not where the mushrooms decide to take you because you've gobbled them down carelessly.
i've never done shrooms, but for pot the formula is just to ride the come up, taking very gradual hits, and when the come up settles down, feel out, is this just right yet? if not take a nother hit... and when the comeup ends ... ask, is this just right? so you might spend 30 minutes smoking one bowl and then you'll be perfect and balanced.
for shrooms it would be a lot longer of a process.
but man.
there is no reason to take heroic doses..... and if you do it doesn't make you a hero. if you don't do it RIGHT it can mess you up really bad
the people that do take huge doses, are generally either very lucky, solid, "i don't care" kind of people that can roll with anything they are given, or they are serious individuals that are very very respectful.
"a mind is a terrible thing to waste"
alcohol, beer, pot, mescaline, mushrooms, cocaine... it doesn't matter what it is, there is always a line that you should never cross, and that line can be almost nonexistant if you really work on being respectful (well i don't know about coke)
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Edited by leery11 (08/09/06 09:42 PM)
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Re: Well, I'm still scared... [Re: leery11]
#5949756 - 08/10/06 05:20 AM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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leery11 said: there's no reason to be so hard on yourself to do something like that.
3 bowls? 5 grams?
what became of subtlety?
Look.
You can get so much out of the finer side of things that there is almost no reason to go over the edge. And when you do "go over" it's becuase you really respect the plant you are using, and you use just the right amount to get what you wanted, so the new found depth is a welcome experience.
Look.
3 bowls of anything is pretty wasteful.
Let me tell you, I had some low quality commercial weed. When I was using it respectfully, one bowl would be enough to go pretty far. Far enough that I'm pretty sure that there is another "life" to cross into and that it reminds me of being someone else and discovering the secrets to marijuana use...... and that someone had a great life, a really nice house.... man he had a nice life.
But at the same time it felt wrong. My breathing was shallow, nose clogged up, the thought "suicide" [such as smoking cannabis being suicide] popped up, making me think "no this isn't right to be doing and we shouldn't do it" and I don't know if that's just because of the smoke inhalation, or what it is..... but the space marijuana takes you does not seem animated or lively, it seems like it's just your own space, no other dimension involved particularly.
However marijuana has taken me to manfiestation of clear white light. Listen well if you didn't read any of that, listen to this. Now when I smoked, I did not smoke a lot. I was a novice and was still respectful, not in my wake and bake be stoned 24/7 like a fool phase yet..... and i was just chilling to some music. and just by simply paying attention to my energy flow which marijuana activated, I BECAME WHITE LIGHT for a brief moment.
Now........ if I had smoked up 6 bowls of this stuff (which I assume is like smoking 3 bowls of good weed) and I became white light... I would have been like you. I would have been totally freaked and just waiting for it to end......
but this white light was welcome, intense, but curious.
Now let me tell you what my abuse of marijuana did to me, and I don't even want to consider what mushroom abuse is like....
but basically I would be sitting around, and I'd get an uncontrollable spasm.... i would focus on a chakra and it would EXPLODE in my body in a painful way where i seize up and have no control for like a half second, like lightning going off.... and i'd be like oh man I don't want that to happen again and then just like you are falling asleep, and walking down an imaginary street and trip over the curb and as you are falling it jolts you awake violently.... I'd just keep drifting in and out.
in fact that's probably what it was, me zoning into light sleep.
but i really fucked up my chakras bad because of this, they EXPLODED and the force from the root didn't generally make it all the way up the spine.
I went from a guy sitting in a chair, uniting his energy flow at the navel and manfiesting clear light.... to a guy who completely broke his energetic system (at least as far as I suppose.... I don't know what was happening).
it is completely ABSURD to be smoking 3 bowls of anything....... even if it's mids or commercials man... you can so damn high off one bowl if you are really truely respectful of the cannabis, don't use it very much...... and jsut very very gradually feel the dose out.
take a tiny hit and sit and breathe and feel. then after a while take another tiny. pretty soon you are at the perfect synthesis.
it's like enjoying a fine glass of wine vs pounding back 6 shots and being in hell.
DON'T DO THIS TO YOURSELF AGAIN.
you were having a great time, and then you overshot it. now.... i know how that is, I did it with DXM and it really freaked me out so bad and gave me a lasting anxiety disorder which I overcame though.....
and i've done it with liquor too... I know how it is.
that's because you aren't respectful. you're already out of your head and you think well let's just get fucked.
getting fucked is more like being raped violently.
there's no sense.
you sit yourself down to have a shroom session and if you are taking caps, you take a few, very very very very gradually over time being very respectful to your brain, and then you'll have the perfect dose... whether the perfect dose is a half a gram and you like it subtle, or it's almost as strong as that day camping, but you'll be WHERE you WANT to be, not where the mushrooms decide to take you because you've gobbled them down carelessly.
i've never done shrooms, but for pot the formula is just to ride the come up, taking very gradual hits, and when the come up settles down, feel out, is this just right yet? if not take a nother hit... and when the comeup ends ... ask, is this just right? so you might spend 30 minutes smoking one bowl and then you'll be perfect and balanced.
for shrooms it would be a lot longer of a process.
but man.
there is no reason to take heroic doses..... and if you do it doesn't make you a hero. if you don't do it RIGHT it can mess you up really bad
the people that do take huge doses, are generally either very lucky, solid, "i don't care" kind of people that can roll with anything they are given, or they are serious individuals that are very very respectful.
"a mind is a terrible thing to waste"
alcohol, beer, pot, mescaline, mushrooms, cocaine... it doesn't matter what it is, there is always a line that you should never cross, and that line can be almost nonexistant if you really work on being respectful (well i don't know about coke)
bravo on that post, you are so right with the whole "getting yourself where you want to be" thing. however with shrooms, you can't be slowly taking your dose due to tolerance, which is why you start with less than a half eighth your first time, which for most people is just under the limit, and work your way up, a gram at a time. once you have a trip that was intense and happy euphoric, etc etc the whole time, you know you've hit you're desired dose. for me, that's 2 grams, and I'm perfect. I develop a strange, mysterious confidence, that gives me all this energy to just let go and be charismatic, funny, and charming much more than I could (mind you I'm always charismatic and charming ). not to mention the whole while i'm entertained by the animated and beautiful world around me, and i'm just breathing in and out positive energy. every time.
(mind you i only do it once every two weeks, or I could probably do higher doses. not smart though, gotta stay in reality for a while for magical lala land to stay nice and different.)
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Edited by beatnicknick (08/10/06 05:27 AM)
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Re: Well, I'm still scared... [Re: beatnicknick]
#5954181 - 08/11/06 03:35 PM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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Been there man... after a trip like that, just take a break from pshycadellics for a month or two.
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