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cyber_messiah
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Need help Quick!!! First Time Casing & Pinning starting but its uneven!!!!!!
#5937295 - 08/06/06 02:58 PM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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I just had my first pins come up over night but they are only on the edge of my casing. This is my first time casing and I don't know if this is normal and more pins will form in the middle or I need to do something to even them out because I have read that your first pinset is what determines your 2nd 3rd and so on pinsets(more pins on the 1st set more on the rest). Please help me out let me know if I should just chill out and let them do their thing or take steps to even out the pinset.Thanks!
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Edited by cyber_messiah (08/06/06 03:32 PM)
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Re: Need help Quick!!! First Time Casing & Pinning starting but its uneven!!!!!! [Re: cyber_messiah]
#5938028 - 08/06/06 07:03 PM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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The best way to prepare for an even pin-set is during the final stages of incubation w/ the casing layer. You want to make sure the mycelium is colonized evenly over the casing layer (not overlay, colonized evenly just below the surface), and patch if needed (apply an UBER thin layer of casing material to areas that are whiter before\more then the other areas) to promote even growth. If your casing is in the fruiting chamber, and its already started pinning, you may be better off just letting it grow out as it is. 
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Edited by SDP (08/06/06 07:30 PM)
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cyber_messiah
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Re: Need help Quick!!! First Time Casing & Pinning starting but its uneven!!!!!! [Re: SDP]
#5938157 - 08/06/06 07:47 PM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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Thanks! so what you are saying is where the mycelium is poking though when comes out of the incubator patch only that area so it will grow through the casing layer at the same time...I will try that agian next time!
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Re: Need help Quick!!! First Time Casing & Pinning starting but its uneven!!!!!! [Re: cyber_messiah]
#5938211 - 08/06/06 08:10 PM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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Read my pinning strategy to learn more.
-------------------- Getting the most out of your casings!, A pinning strategy. Oyster Shell "Flour" $2 for 1lb. a hell of a deal Not what is overlay but rather what overlay is Gas Exchange vs. FAE "We all have priorities. I used a closet once setup a nice little lab trouble was all the shit that was in there ended up in the bedroom that pissed off the GF then I ended up dumping her as she was getting in the way of my sterile culture technique! Ya I got priorities too!!!"
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Re: Need help Quick!!! First Time Casing & Pinning starting but its uneven!!!!!! [Re: cyber_messiah]
#5939997 - 08/07/06 07:22 AM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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Yea... when its incubating, patch over the areas where mycelium pokes through early, then put back into the incubation chamber until growth is full and even over the casing. Then when the time is right, take out and fruit. Hope this helps! 
-SDP
-------------------- Teonanacatl, open up my eyes This sacrament, this prayer, beyond the world of lies Guide me clearly through that which I dont understand Give me strength to find the path Help me fight any demons as you flow through me wholely This is my prayer, that you protect me from evil, and bring me closer to peace And open up my eyes, so i can see things as you do Amen
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cyber_messiah
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Re: Need help Quick!!! First Time Casing & Pinning starting but its uneven!!!!!! [Re: SDP]
#5941468 - 08/07/06 05:15 PM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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Here is a picture of the casing that I am talking about as you can see the pins are just aroud the edges!
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hyphae
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Re: Need help Quick!!! First Time Casing & Pinning starting but its uneven!!!!!! [Re: cyber_messiah]
#5941618 - 08/07/06 06:07 PM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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Looks good bro your fruits are maturing in the order that the myc was exposed to fruiting parameters first. I would say that the myc had first poked thru around the edges by the looks of it. Keep the moisture up and look forward to even a better second flush! GL
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Re: Need help Quick!!! First Time Casing & Pinning starting but its uneven!!!!!! [Re: hyphae]
#5942446 - 08/07/06 10:09 PM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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it looks to me liek thers pins in the middle, very small tho, but im blasted right now
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Re: Need help Quick!!! First Time Casing & Pinning starting but its uneven!!!!!! [Re: uprising]
#5942845 - 08/08/06 12:26 AM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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pins could be forming where there is the most moisture
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Re: Need help Quick!!! First Time Casing & Pinning starting but its uneven!!!!!! [Re: cyber_messiah]
#5943164 - 08/08/06 02:57 AM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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esdfsfd called it. The edges are pinning because that is where the moisture is. Mushrooms love water! The casing must be kept at the proper uniform moisture content to achieve even pinning. Read the link Hyphae posted.
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Re: Need help Quick!!! First Time Casing & Pinning starting but its uneven!!!!!! [Re: cyber_messiah]
#5943184 - 08/08/06 03:14 AM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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hyphae will show you the way
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cyber_messiah
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Re: Need help Quick!!! First Time Casing & Pinning starting but its uneven!!!!!! [Re: eclipse]
#5944964 - 08/08/06 05:49 PM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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I have been misting the middle more than the pins....I even injected 20cc of water into the middle where there are no pins...Two days later I still only got like 5-10 tiny pins in the middle
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hyphae
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Re: Need help Quick!!! First Time Casing & Pinning starting but its uneven!!!!!! [Re: cyber_messiah]
#5945103 - 08/08/06 06:30 PM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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cyber_messiah said: I have been misting the middle more than the pins....I even injected 20cc of water into the middle where there are no pins...Two days later I still only got like 5-10 tiny pins in the middle
Your early primordia formation around the edges resulted in early maturing fruitbodies which the myc has given more or less all it's energy into maturing instead of creating more primordia. It all a fine balance (nature).
-------------------- Getting the most out of your casings!, A pinning strategy. Oyster Shell "Flour" $2 for 1lb. a hell of a deal Not what is overlay but rather what overlay is Gas Exchange vs. FAE "We all have priorities. I used a closet once setup a nice little lab trouble was all the shit that was in there ended up in the bedroom that pissed off the GF then I ended up dumping her as she was getting in the way of my sterile culture technique! Ya I got priorities too!!!"
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