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I cannot believe this
    #5937255 - 08/06/06 02:49 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060806/ap_on_re_us/iraq_believing_wmd

This many people believe Iraq had WMD? And the numbers of those believing has increased? I dont know what to think. This just defies logic. Republicans are goddamn geniuses. Fucking geniuses. Anybody that can pull of this kind of stunt is fucking brilliant. Those fuckers are never going to lose power.

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Re: I cannot believe this [Re: Buddha5254]
    #5937285 - 08/06/06 02:56 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Anyone that doesn't beleive that Iraq ever "had" WMD's must have been living in the Cave O' Idiocy. What do you think he used on the Kurds?


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Re: I cannot believe this [Re: Buddha5254]
    #5937307 - 08/06/06 03:01 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

You do understand that that is an editorial and not a news article, right? And that, though it disparages their significance, it nonetheless concedes that such weapons were, in fact, found in Iraq. Perhaps the stupids are correct in their belief that there were WMDs found in Iraq. Perhaps the stupids have reason to believe that there may yet be more found and perhaps the stupids are correct to believe that a great many are currently stored in Syria.

So many stupid people believing in facts. It must be awful for you.


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Re: I cannot believe this [Re: zappaisgod]
    #5937312 - 08/06/06 03:03 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

I think he had them way back, like pre 1991-92. To say he has had them since is NOT supported by facts. Read the article.

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Re: I cannot believe this [Re: Buddha5254]
    #5937343 - 08/06/06 03:15 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

"released an intelligence report in Washington saying 500 chemical munitions had been collected in Iraq since the 2003 invasion."

From your link. YOU read it.

Scott Ritter has no credibility, he lost that years ago.


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Re: I cannot believe this [Re: zappaisgod]
    #5937625 - 08/06/06 04:42 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Yea, 500 rotted out shells, buried in the sand somewhere. What a threat


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Re: I cannot believe this [Re: xDuckYouSuckerx]
    #5937948 - 08/06/06 06:39 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

For once I agree with duckyoursuckerz. 500 useless shells doenst justify the money and the human lives lost

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Re: I cannot believe this [Re: Buddha5254]
    #5939410 - 08/07/06 12:22 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

I still think he had WMD, and that he shipped it to Syria. I am glad that more Americans are coming around to my way of thinking.

I also think that Mohamed Atta met with Iraqi intelligence in Prauge shortly before 9-11.

I can't confirm those beliefs and prove them to be true, and nobody here can prove them to be false.

What can be proven is that Sadaam had long ties to terrorists over the years and that Iraq under Sadaam was a State supporter of terror. Sadaam also tried to assisnate an American President. His troops also shot at our jets patrolling the no-fly zone on a daily basis.

Sadaam is a genocideal madman. The world is a safer place with him behind bars.


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Re: I cannot believe this [Re: JesusChrist]
    #5939416 - 08/07/06 12:24 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

I forgot to add. Scott Ritter likes to have sex with children.


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Re: I cannot believe this [Re: zappaisgod]
    #5939888 - 08/07/06 04:38 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

> it nonetheless concedes that such weapons were, in fact, found in Iraq.

Thats like saying a cannabis seed found in your attic, left over from a party in 1985, indicates that you are growing.  They found a couple of old, forgotten, shells filled with sarin that were so unstable they could not be used as weapons.

> Yea, 500 rotted out shells, buried in the sand somewhere. What a threat

Ack, we agree.  :wink:

> I still think he had WMD, and that he shipped it to Syria.

Perhaps.  If this were true, it would make a good excuse for Bush to go after Syria.  Since he has not, I suspect this is a false claim.

> I am glad that more Americans are coming around to my way of thinking.

That is the problem... people like you are being led while those doing the leading are convincing people like you that you are thinking.  Personally, I like proof rather than supposition.  If people had continued to think as you do, the Earth would still be flat.

> What can be proven is that Saddam had long ties to terrorists over the years

Such as Donald Rumsfeld?  I have a great picture of those two shaking hands back in '83.  The US has done it's fair share of terrorist activities over the years as well... just look at the CIA and Cuba if you need examples. I am less worried about what a country/leader has done and more worried about what a country/leader is doing.  At the time that Saddam was booted, he was mostly harmless, and the US (and the world) was lied to in order to make him seem a rabid pit bull ready to attack anything that blinked.

> Saddam is a genocidal madman. The world is a safer place with him behind bars.

Perhaps he is mad.  I am not qualified to make such a judgment on his mental health, and I certainly don't trust the media to paint an unbiased picture of the man.

Is the world really safer?  Because the US is in Iraq, the rest of the world knows that the US military is stretched beyond another conflict.  World opinion of the US is at an all time low.  North Korea, Iran, Syria, Israel are all taking advantage of US impotence.  How many civilians, world wide, have died pre-Iraq in terrorist attacks compared to post-Iraq in terrorist attacks.  Yeah, the world is a lot safer!  :rolleyes:

> Scott Ritter likes to have sex with children

We are not debating child porn, therefore, your statement is ad hominem.  If you wish to contribute to the debate, please stay on topic.


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Re: I cannot believe this [Re: Seuss]
    #5939894 - 08/07/06 04:50 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

:imwithstupid:
"I'm not calling ya stupid seuss, just agreeing with you."
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> Saddam is a genocidal madman. The world is a safer place with him behind bars.

Perhaps he is mad. I am not qualified to make such a judgment on his mental health, and I certainly don't trust the media to paint an unbiased picture of the man.





You need to be a little crazy to keep that place out of civil war.
There will be no law there until someone equally as mentally unbalanced is in control.:shrug:

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> I am glad that more Americans are coming around to my way of thinking.

That is the problem... people like you are being led while those doing the leading are convincing people like you that you are thinking. Personally, I like proof rather than supposition. If people had continued to think as you do, the Earth would still be flat.




:yesnod:

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Re: I cannot believe this [Re: Seuss]
    #5940143 - 08/07/06 08:53 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Saddam was the biggest WMD in the world

now he's gone

Thank you George W. Bush for having the balls to do the right thing


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Re: I cannot believe this [Re: Seuss]
    #5940150 - 08/07/06 08:57 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Quote:

Seuss said:
Thats like saying a cannabis seed found in your attic, left over from a party in 1985, indicates that you are growing. They found a couple of old, forgotten, shells filled with sarin that were so unstable they could not be used as weapons.




But.. but... TERRORISM!! *grasps at straws*
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Perhaps. If this were true, it would make a good excuse for Bush to go after Syria. Since he has not, I suspect this is a false claim.




I think that Saddam did, at one point, have WMD's. I have no idea what happened to them. I also think that Saddam was removed from power because of his previous actions against Israel rather than the ipending threat to American lives of some 500 rotted out shells with a cheap nerve agent in it. Something about the George Tenet guy makes me think that. Oh, I know! A ZIONIST fucking JEW in charge of the CIA, ah, shall we say "creatively interpreting" evidence so that we were duped into fighting a war against an enemy of Israel. Golly gee willickers, what a surprise!
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, and the US (and the world) was lied to in order to make him seem a rabid pit bull ready to attack anything that blinked.




Who do ya think did the lying?


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Re: I cannot believe this [Re: JackTackle]
    #5940922 - 08/07/06 02:06 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

:rofl2:  :lol:  :rofl:


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Re: I cannot believe this [Re: xDuckYouSuckerx]
    #5940941 - 08/07/06 02:17 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Quote:

Something about the George Tenet guy makes me think that. Oh, I know! A ZIONIST fucking JEW in charge of the CIA, ah, shall we say "creatively interpreting" evidence so that we were duped into fighting a war against an enemy of Israel




I think it was clear that the bush admin had their eyes on iraq from the start of their take over. Granted some jews probably had supported this position, but I believe it was the people behind the bush admin who wanted iraq to go down. And those people (daddy no doubt) were behind the creative interpretations of the weapons of mass disappearing. I don't really see any jews pulling strings. Granted they have alot of influence, but I doubt it's THAT much influence. They are the chosen children of god remember? It's a christian duty to protect them yada yada.

That and if the jews rebuild on that spot of that one mosque that heralds the start of the end of times right? So as long as the christians keep helping isreal then maybe they will decide to destroy and rebuild that one mosque and all the happy brainwashed christians will meet jesus  :rolleyes:


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Re: I cannot believe this [Re: RosettaStoned]
    #5941081 - 08/07/06 03:09 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Quote:

RosettaStoned said:
I think it was clear that the bush admin had their eyes on iraq from the start of their take over. Granted some jews probably had supported this position, but I believe it was the people behind the bush admin who wanted iraq to go down. And those people (daddy no doubt) were behind the creative interpretations of the weapons of mass disappearing. I don't really see any jews pulling strings.




George Tenet, CIA director at the time, the final filter between the intelligence and the whitehouse.

I havea much more comprehensive list, but it's on another computer, I"ll post it later.


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Re: I cannot believe this [Re: xDuckYouSuckerx]
    #5941144 - 08/07/06 03:31 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Quote:

xDuckYouSuckerx said:

George Tenet, CIA director at the time, the final filter between the intelligence and the whitehouse.

I havea much more comprehensive list, but it's on another computer, I"ll post it later.




The computer at Aryan Nation HQ no doubt.


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Re: I cannot believe this [Re: zappaisgod]
    #5941176 - 08/07/06 03:41 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Yea, back at HQ.


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Re: I cannot believe this [Re: JackTackle]
    #5942955 - 08/08/06 01:04 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Quote:

JackTackle said:
Saddam was the biggest WMD in the world

now he's gone

Thank you George W. Bush for having the balls to do the right thing



Should be more like:

George W. Bush is the biggest WMD in the world

Then he got re-elected...

Thank you to the American Public for having no brains at all and do the wrong thing!


You see... I use to think that ONE president didn't REALLY have enough power/time to absolutely FUCK our country up more than it already was, well, aparently I was dead wrong.

I'm sure they did have some sort of "wmd" or something quite destructive, as someone stated above, we have caused much more damage than what was being done before.
All we have done now is help bring about a holy mess.


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Re: I cannot believe this [Re: xDuckYouSuckerx]
    #5943046 - 08/08/06 01:44 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Quote:

George Tenet, CIA director at the time, the final filter between the intelligence and the whitehouse.





I still don't believe the intelligence presented by the CIA at the time was enough to justify a war without the white house leaning in that direction anyhow. In other words, had their been a different president, it is likely iraq would not have happened and 2500+ of our number would still be alive.

And if it is in fact true that people behind the bush admin were responsible for 9/11 then one can only reason 9/11 was a launching pad for iraq. Which if that is the case then it really didn't matter what the intelligence was on that level anything and everything could be faked and the majority of the public wouldn't be any wiser.

I don't think we are playing by any jew agenda at all, it's the other way around, isreal is playing by americas agenda. If we didn't agree with their current position, they wouldn't dare do it. After all, you don't bite the hand that feeds you.


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