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tinyclanger
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ID request (pictures and description)
#5936611 - 08/06/06 10:41 AM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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Hi, I’m getting stuck trying to ID these mushrooms using a field guide. Probably wishful thinking that I thought I’d worked out they were Psilocybe semilanceata, although that is what I got using the key in the book… They’ve just started coming up over the past few days, following a rainy couple of weeks.



Habitat: Sheep pasture, around the bottom of a slope at the edge of a field, growing in small groups, out of grass about 4” high, (between clumps of much taller, tough grasses).
Colour: all over pale gold/yellow cream.
Cap: sticky when wet; top layer can be peeled off when wet; quite round in small specimens, conical in larger ones with a point, but not a pronounced nipple, on top; diameter 8-25mm (mostly about 10-12mm); height equal or less than diameter (much less in large specimens)
Stem: slimy when wet; thin and flexible – diameter 2-4mm. Some have a faint ring of brown around the stem below the cap (visible in first pic.); no other noticeable features.
Gills: lilacy grey to dark brown, follow a regular pattern with every 4th gill attached to the stem, alternating large, small, medium, small, large etc
Spore print: chocolate brown.
Scent: earthy/mushroomy… (as in shop bought edible mushroom…) :S
Bruising: not sure… not readily observed, but see third picture (damage has pale green tinge which didn't show on photo).
Location: mid wales
Thanks for reading!
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AKSE
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Re: ID request (pictures and description) [Re: tinyclanger]
#5936647 - 08/06/06 11:09 AM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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Deffinitly not P. semilanceata, the spore print should have been a purple-brown. The caps should also have been light brown /brown not yellowish.
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tinyclanger
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Re: ID request (pictures and description) [Re: AKSE]
#5936694 - 08/06/06 11:29 AM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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Is that definitely true for all varieties? I've been getting so confused reading different descriptions/looking at pictures... google image search comes up with a mixture of dark and pale caps.
*baffled*
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Re: ID request (pictures and description) [Re: tinyclanger]
#5936706 - 08/06/06 11:38 AM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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Looks like the dung roundhead (Stropharia semiglobata) to me.
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Re: ID request (pictures and description) [Re: Amatoxin]
#5936740 - 08/06/06 11:54 AM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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I concur
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tinyclanger
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Re: ID request (pictures and description) [Re: LouiseLouise]
#5937892 - 08/06/06 06:16 PM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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(Where'd my last post go...) thanks guys! so right family, wrong species... didn't occur to me it could be them - thought i'd already seen them earlier in the hunt and they looked different, but must've got that one wrong too... d'oh!
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Re: ID request (pictures and description) [Re: tinyclanger]
#5937955 - 08/06/06 06:42 PM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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I agree with the ID. BUT...here is an example of P. semilanceata, with a light colored cap. I'm not sure of the cause, because there was plenty of moisture. I might guess that the lack of sunlight may have caused the odd coloration.

Sorry about the poor photography skills.
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Re: ID request (pictures and description) [Re: psiclops]
#5939026 - 08/06/06 11:11 PM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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I have no clue what species this might be. ....
Nice Clear pics thought $ What type of camera are you using? (techniqe)?
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Re: ID request (pictures and description) [Re: psiclops]
#5939946 - 08/07/06 06:23 AM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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Quote:
psiclops said: here is an example of P. semilanceata, with a light colored cap. I'm not sure of the cause, because there was plenty of moisture. I might guess that the lack of sunlight may have caused the odd coloration.
The lighter coloration is due to the wind and sun drying the pellicle out.
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tinyclanger
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Re: ID request (pictures and description) [Re: zerotwilight]
#5939956 - 08/07/06 06:50 AM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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Ah ok, so they won't come up pale straight away - cheers.
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zerotwilight said: I have no clue what species this might be. ....
Nice Clear pics thought $ What type of camera are you using? (techniqe)?
Not sure what model - borrowed my brother's Olympus camera, which has a SUPER close-up mode :P
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Re: ID request (pictures and description) [Re: tinyclanger]
#5940255 - 08/07/06 09:45 AM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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Amatoxin and Louise Louise are correct in their identification. However, one of the main characteristics in the growth and developement of P. semilanceata and other Psilocybe species, is that they are hygrophanous (changing color as they dry and or with age in drying).
mj
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Re: ID request (pictures and description) [Re: tinyclanger]
#5940274 - 08/07/06 09:54 AM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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I'd go with Stropharia semiglobata. 1) slimy coating. 2) prominent spore ring on stem 3) almost symmetrical cap - semilanceata is usually more irregularly shaped 4) no prominent nipple 5) unlikely to be libs now because of hot summer.
tinyclanger - be patient, have another look at the end of september
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tinyclanger
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Re: ID request (pictures and description) [Re: todosmentira]
#5940640 - 08/07/06 12:15 PM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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Thanks everyone - I'll wait for a while then, though I'll only be in wales for the first half of september fingers crossed anyway, at least i know they grow round here because a nearby village was the setting for a free drugs festival years ago, supposedly because there are so many shrooms in these parts...
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