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Qana Photographer Caught Doctoring Photos From Lebanon
#5936518 - 08/06/06 09:35 AM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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It was a god-awful photochop job too. I can't believe the editors went along with it and published it. They would have never been called on it if not for bloggers.
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Reuters admits altering Beirut photo
A Reuters photograph of smoke rising from buildings in Beirut has been withdrawn after coming under attack by American web logs. The blogs accused Reuters of distorting the photograph to include more smoke and damage.
The photograph showed two very heavy plumes of black smoke billowing from buildings in Beirut after an Air Force attack on the Lebanese capital. Reuters has since withdrawn the photograph from its website, along a message admitting that the image was distorted, and an apology to editors.
Reuters withdraws doctored image
In the message, Reuters said that "photo editing software was improperly used on this image. A corrected version will immediately follow this advisory. We are sorry for any inconvience."
Reuters' head of PR Moira Whittle said in response: "Reuters has suspended a photographer until investigations are completed into changes made to a photograph showing smoke billowing from buildings following an air strike on Beirut. Reuters takes such matters extremely seriously as it is strictly against company editorial policy to alter pictures."
"As soon as the allegation came to light, the photograph, filed on Saturday 5 August, was removed from the file and a replacement, showing the same scene, was sent. The explanation for the removal was the improper use of photo-editing software," she added.
Earlier, Charles Johnson, of the Little Green Footballs blog , which has exposed a previous attempt at fraud by a major American news corporation, wrote : "This Reuters photograph shows blatant evidence of manipulation. Notice the repeating patterns in the smoke; this is almost certainly caused by using the Photoshop “clone” tool to add more smoke to the image."
Johnson added: "Smoke simply does not contain repeating symmetrical patterns like this, and you can see the repetition in both plumes of smoke. There’s really no question about it." A series of close ups are then posted on the blog, showing that "it’s not only the plumes of smoke that were 'enhanced.' There are also cloned buildings." The close ups do appear to show exact replicas of buildings appearing next to one another in the photograph.
The Sports Shooter web forum , used by professional photographers, also examined the photo, with many users concluding that the image has been doctored.
'Looks so obviously doctored' "I'll second the cloned smoke...but it looks so obvious that I don't know how the photographer could have gotten away with it," wrote one user.
After further research, Johnson posted a photograph he says is the original image taken before distortions were made, showing much lighter smoke rising. Other blogs have also analyzed the photographs, and reached similar conclusions, such as Left & Right , which states: "The photo has been doctored, quite badly."
The author of the Ace of Spades blog wrote: "Even I can see the very suspicious "clonings" of picture elements here. And I'm an idiot."
The Hot Air blog also looked at the photo, describing the image as "the worst Photoshop I have ever seen."
Adnan Hajj, the photographer who sent the altered image, was also the Reuters photographer behind many of the images from Qana – which have also been the subject of suspicions for being staged.
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Re: Qana Photographer Caught Doctoring Photos From Lebanon [Re: Catalysis]
#5936682 - 08/06/06 11:26 AM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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haha the clone stamp tool strikes again.
what morons.
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Re: Qana Photographer Caught Doctoring Photos From Lebanon [Re: Catalysis]
#5936726 - 08/06/06 11:50 AM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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What a surprise that the Hezbomedia distorts the facts.
What can you expect from goons that criticize the Israelis for their bombs but are so strangely silent about the bombs from the scumbags who started this mess.
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Re: Qana Photographer Caught Doctoring Photos From Lebanon [Re: luvdemshrooms]
#5936749 - 08/06/06 11:56 AM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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But but but the Jooooooos control the media. How can this be? I know, it's a Joooooo plot to distract from the mind control program they and the neocons learned at the knee of that arch brainwasher KKKarl Rove. Those crafty Joooos, Helmut is right, they are way too smart for the rest of us.
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Re: Qana Photographer Caught Doctoring Photos From Lebanon [Re: Catalysis]
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Re: Qana Photographer Caught Doctoring Photos From Lebanon [Re: buckwheat]
#5937359 - 08/06/06 03:22 PM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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Reuters photo "As soon as the allegation came to light, the photograph, filed on Saturday 5 August"
Your Yahoo link: "These two satellite images provided by GeoEye show the same area of Beirut, Lebanon before and after Israeli bombardment. The image on the left was taken Wednesday July 12, 2006, and the image on the right was taken Monday July 31,"
Relevance? Unless you are pointing out that your link provides what might well be a photoshop as well.
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Re: Qana Photographer Caught Doctoring Photos From Lebanon [Re: Catalysis]
#5937752 - 08/06/06 05:27 PM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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wow, photoshoped plumes of smoke. big deal. it's not like lebanon isnt being bombaded.
how about some real images? ok.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/12011945@N00/sets/72157594202020048/ http://www.guardian.co.uk/gall/0,,1820609,00.html





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Re: Qana Photographer Caught Doctoring Photos From Lebanon [Re: Catalysis]
#5937816 - 08/06/06 05:52 PM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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Photographers have been doing this for years in war since Matthew Brady moved corpses in the Civil War to more photogenic poses.
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Re: Qana Photographer Caught Doctoring Photos From Lebanon [Re: Vvellum]
#5937910 - 08/06/06 06:24 PM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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bi0, where'd you get the pictures of those feirce hezbollah warriors? That one looks like shes three years old, and are those Katyusha's shes hiding under her burned, scarred body? Oh praise Judaism for dealing with those evil people that wanted to hurt the innocent nation of Israel.
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Re: Qana Photographer Caught Doctoring Photos From Lebanon [Re: xDuckYouSuckerx]
#5937969 - 08/06/06 06:48 PM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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You anti-semite!!
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Re: Qana Photographer Caught Doctoring Photos From Lebanon [Re: buckwheat]
#5938059 - 08/06/06 07:18 PM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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Nope, no dead Joooooooooos. Not a one. They're just bottle rockets being constantly launched at apartment buildings in Haifa with tank installations on their roofs.
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Re: Qana Photographer Caught Doctoring Photos From Lebanon [Re: zappaisgod]
#5938099 - 08/06/06 07:28 PM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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Apparently Al Reuters thinks it's a big deal: http://www.alertnet.org/thenews/newsdesk/L06301298.htm
""This represents a serious breach of Reuters' standards and we shall not be accepting or using pictures taken by him," Whittle said in a statement issued in London."
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Re: Qana Photographer Caught Doctoring Photos From Lebanon [Re: Vvellum]
#5938127 - 08/06/06 07:37 PM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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Also, if you recall this same photographer was called out for photos in Qana showing a girl being loaded into an ambulance and then another photo of her timestamped hours later with no ambulance around.
This is important because people like bi0 use the staged photos and exaggerated death counts to drum up support for hezbollah while jews are being killed every day without the corpse parade.
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Re: Qana Photographer Caught Doctoring Photos From Lebanon [Re: Catalysis]
#5938186 - 08/06/06 08:01 PM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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oh yea, most media doesn't even talk about what happens to the Jews
riiiiight
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Re: Qana Photographer Caught Doctoring Photos From Lebanon [Re: xDuckYouSuckerx]
#5938924 - 08/06/06 10:56 PM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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xDuckYouSuckerx said: oh yea, most media doesn't even talk about what happens to the Jews
riiiiight
US media talks about dead Israelis and Lebanese but never shows any pictures. And why the fuck do you care about the Lebanese?
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Re: Qana Photographer Caught Doctoring Photos From Lebanon [Re: Vvellum]
#5939937 - 08/07/06 06:05 AM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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> wow, photoshoped plumes of smoke. big deal.
Imagine the opposite... Israel releases faked photos that show the carnage of the rocket attacks upon the children in Israel... and in the next photo you see the children playing, unhurt, a few hours alter. I doubt you would be singing "big deal" in that case.
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Re: Qana Photographer Caught Doctoring Photos From Lebanon [Re: Seuss]
#5940091 - 08/07/06 08:24 AM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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At what point is anybody else gonna catch on to the fact that Helmut just hates Joooooos?
And it's way more than just photoshopped images of smoke http://mypetjawa.mu.nu/archives/184206.php From the same photographer
And then there is the whole "Green Helmet" series of staged photos from Qana. The best summary of this can be found here: http://eureferendum.blogspot.com/ With a particularly interesting bit of speculation from here: http://strata-sphere.com/blog/index.php/archives/2250 that "Green Helmet" is a mortician who just maybe is trotting the same bodies from site to site in his refrigerated truck. Body count in Qana went mysteriously from 57 to 28 and, as per my previous link to a video showing rockets fired from residences in Qana, in conjunction with this quotation; "If a location is a legitimate military objective, it does not cease to be one because civilians are in the vicinity. As Article 28 of the 4th Geneva Convention provides:"
The presence of a protected person may not be used to render certain points or areas immune from military operations.
Clearly, the deliberate placing of military targets in the heart of civilian areas is a serious violation of humanitarian law, and those who chose to locate such targets in these areas must bear responsibility for the injury to civilians which this decision engenders. As international law expert Yoram Dinstein notes:" from here: http://vitalperspective.typepad.com/vital_perspective_clarity/2006/07/responding_to_t.html There is a very legitimate contention that the finger of blame for any civilian deaths so far in Lebanon should be pointed squarely at Hez. Not to mention several thousand rockets fired by them that aren't even attempts at striking military targets. I repeat, several thousand.
Jooooooish controlled media? A total fucking joke. Even Spielberg in that Munich movie bent over backwards to excuse the murderous swine. There are some paranoic Nazis on the planet. Pay them no mind. They are stupid, envious people.
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Re: Qana Photographer Caught Doctoring Photos From Lebanon [Re: downforpot]
#5940138 - 08/07/06 08:50 AM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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downforpot said: US media talks about dead Israelis and Lebanese but never shows any pictures. And why the fuck do you care about the Lebanese?
I really don't care about them, per se, but I care about the Zionists less.
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Re: Qana Photographer Caught Doctoring Photos From Lebanon [Re: Seuss]
#5940139 - 08/07/06 08:52 AM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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Seuss said: Imagine the opposite... Israel releases faked photos that show the carnage of the rocket attacks upon the children in Israel... and in the next photo you see the children playing, unhurt, a few hours alter. I doubt you would be singing "big deal" in that case.
Yea, I mean, after Israel attacked the USS Liberty, the open, unbias media reported it accurately. Er, no, ok bad example.
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Re: Qana Photographer Caught Doctoring Photos From Lebanon [Re: Seuss]
#5940379 - 08/07/06 10:43 AM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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Seuss said: > wow, photoshoped plumes of smoke. big deal.
Imagine the opposite... Israel releases faked photos that show the carnage of the rocket attacks upon the children in Israel... and in the next photo you see the children playing, unhurt, a few hours alter. I doubt you would be singing "big deal" in that case.
in that case, you are correct. but if some Israel news agency photoshopped big plumes of smoke that were a result of a Hezbollah missile attack (which do happen just like Israeli bombarding Lebanese towns), I wouldnt care - no big deal. shady and unethical, but there are bigger fish to fry in this situation.
A photoshopped image is no worse than all of the biased news that promote both sides of this situation. I would say that the constant flow of inaccuracy and bogus news reporting is far worse than one bogus, obviously faked-, and incredibly obscure image.
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Re: Qana Photographer Caught Doctoring Photos From Lebanon [Re: Catalysis]
#5940388 - 08/07/06 10:47 AM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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This is important because people like bi0 use the staged photos and exaggerated death counts to drum up support for hezbollah while jews are being killed every day without the corpse parade.

when did I ever use the photoshopped image? Are the images I posted fake? When did I ever exaggerate death counts? And when did I ever "support" Hezbollah? All I have done is criticize Israel and remark that the extremists of both sides (Islamists and the Zionists) both have blood on their hands and neither can take the high, moral road. I do blame Israel quite a bit - how can I not? But to suggest that such a critique equates to supporting Islamist extremism is simple-minded. Surely, you are not simple-minded, right?
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Re: Qana Photographer Caught Doctoring Photos From Lebanon [Re: Vvellum]
#5940439 - 08/07/06 11:06 AM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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bi0 said: When did I ever use the photoshopped image? Are the images I posted fake? When did I ever exaggerate death counts? And when did I ever "support" Hezbollah? All I have done is criticize Israel and remark that the extremists of both sides (Islamists and the Zionists) both have blood on their hands and neither can take the high, moral road. I do blame Israel quite a bit - how can I not? But to suggest that such a critique equates to supporting Islamist extremism is simple-minded. Surely, you are not simple-minded, right?
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Re: Qana Photographer Caught Doctoring Photos From Lebanon [Re: Vvellum]
#5940805 - 08/07/06 01:09 PM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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> when did I ever use the photoshopped image?
I don't think he was implying malicious intent on your part. Rather, people photoshop pictures, and somebody else (such as yourself) repost those pictures, unknowingly spreading misinformation. At least, that is how I read it...
> You Anti-Semite!
Please stop trolling. I am tired of reading one line racist/hate comments that have nothing to do with the debate. If this continues, you will find yourself banned. This would be unfortunate, as I value diverse viewpoints.
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Re: Qana Photographer Caught Doctoring Photos From Lebanon [Re: Vvellum]
#5940892 - 08/07/06 01:50 PM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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Seuss said: > wow, photoshoped plumes of smoke. big deal.
Imagine the opposite... Israel releases faked photos that show the carnage of the rocket attacks upon the children in Israel... and in the next photo you see the children playing, unhurt, a few hours alter. I doubt you would be singing "big deal" in that case.
in that case, you are correct. but if some Israel news agency photoshopped big plumes of smoke that were a result of a Hezbollah missile attack (which do happen just like Israeli bombarding Lebanese towns), I wouldnt care - no big deal. shady and unethical, but there are bigger fish to fry in this situation.
A photoshopped image is no worse than all of the biased news that promote both sides of this situation. I would say that the constant flow of inaccuracy and bogus news reporting is far worse than one bogus, obviously faked-, and incredibly obscure image.
I dont agree. A picture or a video, is supposed to be a recording of what took place. It is something that is captured from an outside source and recorded.
An opinion or commentary from a news source, in most cases is biased. Anyone intelligent can be able to decipher these ramblings. As for a picture, it is much harder for the outside individual to determine if its fake or doctored, compared to the opinions, of lets say, Rush Limbaugh.
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Re: Qana Photographer Caught Doctoring Photos From Lebanon [Re: Catalysis]
#5940924 - 08/07/06 02:07 PM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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Faked Casualties?
Like These?
Or maybe like the faked Jenin massaccre.
At least this one got a correction, albeit small and late:
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BEIRUT, Lebanon (CNN) -- Lebanese Prime Minister Fouad Siniora said Monday that one person was killed in an Israeli airstrike on the southern village of Houla, not 40 as he had earlier reported.
Siniora had earlier told Arab foreign ministers in Beirut that the attack "was a horrific massacre ... in which more than 40 martyrs were victims of deliberate bombing."
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Re: Qana Photographer Caught Doctoring Photos From Lebanon [Re: wingnutx]
#5941056 - 08/07/06 03:02 PM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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The sad truth is that when the terrorists hide among the civilian population, it is difficult to know if a casualty is a terrorist or a civilian.
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Re: Qana Photographer Caught Doctoring Photos From Lebanon [Re: wingnutx]
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Re: Qana Photographer Caught Doctoring Photos From Lebanon [Re: SirTripAlot]
#5941218 - 08/07/06 03:56 PM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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bi0 said:
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Seuss said: > wow, photoshoped plumes of smoke. big deal.
Imagine the opposite... Israel releases faked photos that show the carnage of the rocket attacks upon the children in Israel... and in the next photo you see the children playing, unhurt, a few hours alter. I doubt you would be singing "big deal" in that case.
in that case, you are correct. but if some Israel news agency photoshopped big plumes of smoke that were a result of a Hezbollah missile attack (which do happen just like Israeli bombarding Lebanese towns), I wouldnt care - no big deal. shady and unethical, but there are bigger fish to fry in this situation.
A photoshopped image is no worse than all of the biased news that promote both sides of this situation. I would say that the constant flow of inaccuracy and bogus news reporting is far worse than one bogus, obviously faked-, and incredibly obscure image.
I dont agree. A picture or a video, is supposed to be a recording of what took place. It is something that is captured from an outside source and recorded.
An opinion or commentary from a news source, in most cases is biased. Anyone intelligent can be able to decipher these ramblings. As for a picture, it is much harder for the outside individual to determine if its fake or doctored, compared to the opinions, of lets say, Rush Limbaugh.
I didnt say anthing about "opinion" pieces - everybody knows the nature of those. I was speaking of obviously biased and misleading news stories on both sides of this conflict.
Also, look at the two images - the fake versus the real image. They are not that different.

yes, this is unethical. But this is just the story of some lazy asshole named Adnan Hajj who wanted a more powerful image to sell to Reuters. This is not the story of Reuters intentionally misguiding the public in favor of Hezbollah or some other nonsense.
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Re: Qana Photographer Caught Doctoring Photos From Lebanon [Re: Vvellum]
#5941371 - 08/07/06 04:43 PM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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Man, that guy sucked ass at photoshop. A blind man could do better.
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Re: Qana Photographer Caught Doctoring Photos From Lebanon [Re: d33p]
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Re: Qana Photographer Caught Doctoring Photos From Lebanon [Re: Seuss]
#5941465 - 08/07/06 05:13 PM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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Seuss said: The sad truth is that when the terrorists hide among the civilian population, it is difficult to know if a casualty is a terrorist or a civilian.
That may be so, but Israel has been hitting the country well outside Hezbollah strongholds. It's difficult to believe that every one of these Israeli air strikes included the archetype of a terrorist hiding behind a civilian. Some Israeli pilots have even refused orders to launch air strikes.
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Re: Qana Photographer Caught Doctoring Photos From Lebanon [Re: Basilides]
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> That may be so, but
Oh, I'm not trying to defend anybody. Rather, I am saying that it is impossible to know the real toll upon the civilian population. Because of this, it would be premature, if not erroneous, to judge an official that could not give an accurate casualty count.
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Re: Qana Photographer Caught Doctoring Photos From Lebanon [Re: Basilides]
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Re: Qana Photographer Caught Doctoring Photos From Lebanon [Re: Vvellum]
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Are the images I posted fake?
In light of recent revelations, it is entirely possible.
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When did I ever exaggerate death counts?
To the best of my knowledge you didn't. However, the death toll from yesterday's "massacre" was revised from 40 to 1. Does that even raise your curiosity? You seem to think that this stuff is not important and has no consequence. This is all too familiar to the Jews.
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And when did I ever "support" Hezbollah?
When you post pictures of destruction from only Lebanon. You probably don't support hezbollah but lets be honest here, you know damn well the effect of those pictures and the PR game going on. I know you are not that naive.
Here is the other picture (of at least 2) that he doctored. This is a jet dropping one flare which was photoshopped to 3 flares with the caption calling them "Israeli missiles". This is in addition to all the stuff zappa pointed out. I find it odd that you think this just doesn't matter, especially when you are posting pictures that these journalists are taking.
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Re: Qana Photographer Caught Doctoring Photos From Lebanon [Re: Catalysis]
#5941915 - 08/07/06 07:42 PM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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bio stated : A photoshopped image is no worse than all of the biased news that promote both sides of this situation
I came to my conclusion based on your above statement.
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Re: Qana Photographer Caught Doctoring Photos From Lebanon [Re: zappaisgod]
#5946073 - 08/08/06 10:57 PM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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Wikipedia
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Re: Qana Photographer Caught Doctoring Photos From Lebanon [Re: Basilides]
#5946887 - 08/09/06 09:52 AM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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Re: Qana Photographer Caught Doctoring Photos From Lebanon [Re: Catalysis]
#5947457 - 08/09/06 01:39 PM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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In light of recent revelations, it is entirely possible.
Well, everything is possible. But do you have any evidence of your assertion that these images of burned and blown-up children and women are fake?
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To the best of my knowledge you didn't. However, the death toll from yesterday's "massacre" was revised from 40 to 1. Does that even raise your curiosity? You seem to think that this stuff is not important and has no consequence. This is all too familiar to the Jews.
I think there is alot of confusion and disinformation on all sides. I am glad that the information was revised as quick as it was.
Again, look at the original photograph vs. the doctored photograph. Are they really that different? I simply believe that such a minor instance means little to the Arab who sees destruction all around them, who is the target of a brutal collective punishment. If so, then you really "misunderestimate" the power of seeing your house destroyed and family members rotting in the street for no good reason. You guys seem to think this photograph is the source of all hatred of Zionist Israel. I simply think Israel's actions are the source of the hatred.
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When you post pictures of destruction from only Lebanon. You probably don't support hezbollah but lets be honest here, you know damn well the effect of those pictures and the PR game going on. I know you are not that naive.
Actually, I believe those pictures tell a story of a Nazi-esque culture that is the foundation of Israel and their disregard for those whom are not the "Chosen People" like themselves. I also think they tell a story about extremist views (Islamist fundamentalism) that are regularly validated and allowed to swell.
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Here is the other picture (of at least 2) that he doctored. This is a jet dropping one flare which was photoshopped to 3 flares with the caption calling them "Israeli missiles". This is in addition to all the stuff zappa pointed out. I find it odd that you think this just doesn't matter, especially when you are posting pictures that these journalists are taking.
When did I ever post the images that Adnan Hajj doctored?
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Re: Qana Photographer Caught Doctoring Photos From Lebanon [Re: zappaisgod]
#5947459 - 08/09/06 01:40 PM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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Basilides said: Wikipedia
Care to demonstrate that the data on that image is inaccurate?
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Re: Qana Photographer Caught Doctoring Photos From Lebanon [Re: Catalysis]
#5950418 - 08/10/06 12:21 PM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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Speaking of Qana, check out this video by German reporters of the ubiquitous "Green Helmet Guy" doing his movie director schtick.
http://powerlineblog.com/archives/014959.php
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Re: Qana Photographer Caught Doctoring Photos From Lebanon [Re: Vvellum]
#5950837 - 08/10/06 02:52 PM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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Basilides said: Wikipedia
Care to demonstrate that the data on that image is inaccurate?
I was laughing because there's another thread wherein Helmut the Duck is going on about Wiki being a Joooooooooooo front. That's all.
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Re: Qana Photographer Caught Doctoring Photos From Lebanon [Re: zappaisgod]
#5950856 - 08/10/06 02:58 PM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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Where did duck state wiki as HIS source??
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Re: Qana Photographer Caught Doctoring Photos From Lebanon [Re: Hank, FTW]
#5950935 - 08/10/06 03:51 PM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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He didn't. He said they were utterly untrustworthy because they were modded by Jooooooooooooooos and would always protect the JooooooooooView
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Re: Qana Photographer Caught Doctoring Photos From Lebanon [Re: zappaisgod]
#5950971 - 08/10/06 04:06 PM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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ohhh hahaha.....well lets see if this entrance to wiki stays up long. Mods can't get to everything at once. :P
Can the original poster of the figure give a link for it?
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Re: Qana Photographer Caught Doctoring Photos From Lebanon [Re: Hank, FTW]
#5953302 - 08/11/06 09:01 AM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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alpharedecho said: ohhh hahaha.....well lets see if this entrance to wiki stays up long. Mods can't get to everything at once. :P
Can the original poster of the figure give a link for it?
Well now, THERE'S a fucking concept. Anyway, more from Pallywood:
http://littlegreenfootballs.com/weblog/?entry=22036_More_Death_Cult_Propaganda&only
"EDS NOTE GRAPHIC CONTENT ** A Relative carries the body of Rajaa Abu Shaban, 5, into Shifa hospital in Gaza City, Wednesday, Aug. 9, 2006. On Thursday, doctors said that the 5-year-old Palestinian girl initially believed to have been killed by an Israeli military strike Wednesday apparently died after sustaining head injuries during a fall from a swing in the same area shortly before the strike.(AP Photo/Adel Hana)"
That's the last of several captions, the first few of which said the Joooooooooooos did it, and which received headline attention.
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