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The Shroomery becomes a Rogue Nation!
    #5936238 - 08/06/06 05:31 AM (17 years, 5 months ago)

This is a dark scenario, but think well before you vote!

Suppose the Shroomer decided we had enough of the Drug War, so we might as well become a Rogue Nation.

The first thing we do is raid Gilligan's Island and Fantasy Island and drive all inhabitants into the sea :wink: to give us sovereign ground to stand on.

Next, we decide we need an army, and because we're a rogue nation the admins decide we might as well go for Weapons Of Mass Destruction.
Please note that capital and no intervention from the UN etc are givens here, this is about judging combined Shroomery brainpower and skills.

Soo, given some millions, could we?
I feel a poll coming on :laugh:

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Could the Shroomery acquire chemical weapons technology?
You may choose only one
Could the Shroomery acquire bioweapons technology?
You may choose only one
Could the Shroomery acquire nuclear weapons technology?
You may choose only one


Votes accepted from (08/06/06 05:31 AM) to (No end specified)
You must vote before you can view the results of this poll



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Re: The Shroomery becomes a Rogue Nation! [Re: Asante]
    #5936250 - 08/06/06 05:46 AM (17 years, 5 months ago)

i still think the shroomery should buy up some land.. we should get annexed from the United States (if we stayed within the borders) and form our own country!


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Re: The Shroomery becomes a Rogue Nation! [Re: Asante]
    #5936253 - 08/06/06 05:47 AM (17 years, 5 months ago)

Haha
"Weapons Of Mass Destruction"
"nerve gas"
"bioweapons"
"suitcase nuke"
"dirty bomb"

Hello to the U.S. antiterror taskforce! Nothing to see here please move along.


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Re: The Shroomery becomes a Rogue Nation! [Re: Ythan]
    #5936264 - 08/06/06 06:03 AM (17 years, 5 months ago)

Perhaps they want to vote on it too :wink:

The Shroomery has many threads that attract the attention of many government agencies, gives the boys at Echelon something to do on a boring sunday afternoon!


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Re: The Shroomery becomes a Rogue Nation! [Re: Asante]
    #5936268 - 08/06/06 06:12 AM (17 years, 5 months ago)

-Yes, even the complex stuff like nerve gas
-We could probably acquire and grow a nasty bug, yes
-We could at least build a "dirty bomb"
:evil:  :wink:
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Hello to the U.S. antiterror taskforce! Nothing to see here please move along.




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Re: The Shroomery becomes a Rogue Nation! [Re: Banez]
    #5936286 - 08/06/06 06:31 AM (17 years, 5 months ago)

"Weapons Of Mass Destruction"
"nerve gas"
"bioweapons"
"suitcase nuke"
"dirty bomb"
land.. annexed from the United States


Thanks OHSBrave06, the list gets richer still :thumbup:
Its interesting to see how the majority thinks we can acquire some degree of WMD in all three categories.

As for the atomic bomb: if we can get the uranium, we're in business, some designs are basement stuff.

Ooops here we go :blush:

"Weapons Of Mass Destruction"
"nerve gas"
"bioweapons"
"suitcase nuke"
"dirty bomb"
"land.. annexed from the United States"
we can get the uranium, we're in business

I wonder just how many "suspect webpages" there are, discuss something controversial and you can't help but spew phrases which are highly suspect if taken out of context..


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Re: The Shroomery becomes a Rogue Nation! [Re: Asante]
    #5936430 - 08/06/06 08:32 AM (17 years, 5 months ago)

i don't see any shroomerits going to war :shrug:

we might be able to pull off an LSD lab and convert some conventinal stuff to deliver the lsd to big places...
it's pretty easy to contaminate large areas with this drug :tongue:

if we had the funds...


i don't like where you're going with this thread though... the shroomery is more likely to become a peacefull nation!


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Re: The Shroomery becomes a Rogue Nation! [Re: Asante]
    #5936612 - 08/06/06 10:41 AM (17 years, 5 months ago)

Sure we could do all these things.
But I think a nice island of primo weed growing free of charge, for all members, would be better. :thumbup:


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Re: The Shroomery becomes a Rogue Nation! [Re: Asante]
    #5936620 - 08/06/06 10:47 AM (17 years, 5 months ago)

I say we get the enemy really stoned, not nerve-gas them. :stoned:


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Re: The Shroomery becomes a Rogue Nation! [Re: Le_Canard]
    #5936638 - 08/06/06 11:03 AM (17 years, 5 months ago)

yeah, although i think that with enough money a shroomery nation could easily take over an island And get all of those weapons (assuming we could get a good enogh playing card to trade with a rough nation)

i have been down for tarting my own country for a few years now, and am slowly workingn towards it :smile:


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Re: The Shroomery becomes a Rogue Nation! [Re: Asante]
    #5936728 - 08/06/06 11:51 AM (17 years, 5 months ago)

I remember once at the Oregon Country Fair gathering, someone brought some steaks, but no one was hungry for it. Someone said we should feed them to the cows. We laughed about how we could all see the headlines now:

"A strain of mad cow disease was discovered in Veneta, OR. A terrorist organization known as the Shroomery is believed to be responsible."


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Re: The Shroomery becomes a Rogue Nation! [Re: Asante]
    #5937029 - 08/06/06 01:21 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

A rogue nation, eh? Awesome, I've always wondered what Taiwan would be like if everyone was completely twisted on drugs.

We could totally build up an arsenal up to and including fusion bombs.

I'd happily help build us some nifty Teller-Ulam devices.



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Re: The Shroomery becomes a Rogue Nation! [Re: Asante]
    #5937145 - 08/06/06 02:09 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

I don't think so, for several reasons.
What's the point ofthis poll anyway? :tongue:


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Re: The Shroomery becomes a Rogue Nation! [Re: rod]
    #5937351 - 08/06/06 03:17 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

Quote:

rod said:
Sure we could do all these things.
But I think a nice island of primo weed growing free of charge, for all members, would be better. :thumbup:






We could all hang out in our bar and compare the weed that we grew last season..
Ya I'm all for the Island of weed thing where do I sign up? :wink:


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Re: The Shroomery becomes a Rogue Nation! [Re: Colonel Kurtz Ph.D]
    #5937456 - 08/06/06 03:54 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

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What's the point ofthis poll anyway?




To assess how hard we believe it is for an organisation (such as the one we happen to be part of) to acquire said technology.

I ofcourse do not mean we should even seriously think of getting us some WMD, but could we, as a group, do so if we wanted to? This in line of recent threads where terrorists designing biowarfare bugs are discussed.

I think we, looking at the brain power and skills only, could go all the way on all but the nuclear technologies. Even there I think a lower-kiloton device is possible, but not a hydrogen bomb, which would require a specific energy output of the primary fission device.

I'm anti-killing, anti-war, but I'm curious as to how difficult the scientifically inclined Shroomerites think these technologies are to acquire. Most, like me, are convinced it is not all that hard.


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Re: The Shroomery becomes a Rogue Nation! [Re: YESSUP]
    #5937563 - 08/06/06 04:18 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

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YESSUP said:
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rod said:
Sure we could do all these things.
But I think a nice island of primo weed growing free of charge, for all members, would be better. :thumbup:






We could all hang out in our bar and compare the weed that we grew last season..
Ya I'm all for the Island of weed thing where do I sign up? :wink:




I 2nd that motion. i want in


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Re: The Shroomery becomes a Rogue Nation! [Re: Asante]
    #5940769 - 08/07/06 12:57 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

Quote:

Wiccan_Seeker said:
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What's the point ofthis poll anyway?




To assess how hard we believe it is for an organisation (such as the one we happen to be part of) to acquire said technology.

I ofcourse do not mean we should even seriously think of getting us some WMD, but could we, as a group, do so if we wanted to? This in line of recent threads where terrorists designing biowarfare bugs are discussed.

I think we, looking at the brain power and skills only, could go all the way on all but the nuclear technologies. Even there I think a lower-kiloton device is possible, but not a hydrogen bomb, which would require a specific energy output of the primary fission device.

I'm anti-killing, anti-war, but I'm curious as to how difficult the scientifically inclined Shroomerites think these technologies are to acquire. Most, like me, are convinced it is not all that hard.




I happen to disagree strongly with the previous resonses, IMHO most people are thinking just about the technical difficulties and not enough about the human interaction needed to archieve those goals.
I mean, this site is filled with stoners, and the fact that some of us might actually able to fill some of the gaps to archieve those goals doesn't mean that is possible without a lot of knowledable, skilled and responsable people, and lots of power/money, not to speak about the emotional backbone created by differences between people; one thing is talking on a site and another living together on an island.

Likewise, to archieve those kind of goals people have to be really decided to do it and a strong "leadership" must be in place.

So I voted No, I don't think so, and no :grin:


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Re: The Shroomery becomes a Rogue Nation! [Re: Colonel Kurtz Ph.D]
    #5941014 - 08/07/06 02:46 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

Does throwing contamined PF Jars count as dirty bombs?


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Re: The Shroomery becomes a Rogue Nation! [Re: Wysefool]
    #5941026 - 08/07/06 02:51 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

actually, thats bio-terrorism :smile:


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