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OfflineYamidude
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Attention pissed off cutomers..
    #5934172 - 08/05/06 10:51 AM (17 years, 5 months ago)

1.Stop creating threads badmouthing.

2.Contact the vendor and act like an adult.

3.Clear syringes DO NOT mean they are bunk/fake.

I have used 5 diffrerent strains that were crystal clear in the syringe and I have had 100% success.

Almost ALL vendors will respond very quickly and will be 100% more than willing to resolve your problem as long as you stick to rule number 2.

You folks really just need to give the vendors a chance before creating threads..

A slanderous thread is an EXTREME last resort which should come After contacting the vendor and then posibly contacting a Mod..

http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Cat/0/Number/913161/an/0/page/0


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OfflineCoolMojo
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Re: Attention pissed off cutomers.. [Re: Yamidude]
    #5934645 - 08/05/06 01:29 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

No this is gone way to far. Getting a bad syringe is a part of the business. It happens, no vendor I don't care what anybody says will have a 100% perfect record with syringes. If you have gotten a bad syringe contact the vendor.

That being said, its often hard to tell if it was the syringe that was contaminated or if it was the growers technique. Yet even when its plainly obvious that the syringe wasn't at fault I've seen vender's replace the syringe at no charge. Tell me what business will pay for the shipping on a replacement item? Yet these places that are getting slandered do just that. Thats money out of THEIR pocket even when they aren't obligated todo that. Neither legally, morally or even by the general standard of Online businesses. That my friends, speaks VOLUMES about their integrity.


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OfflineRogerRabbitV
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Re: Attention pissed off cutomers.. [Re: CoolMojo]
    #5934737 - 08/05/06 02:02 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

It's the reason I would never consider being a spore vendor or even supplier.

The majority of experienced growers generate their own spores and spawn, while the new folks who are making the mistakes we all made while going through the learning process are the ones purchasing from the vendors. It's a position I would not want to be in.

One word on clear syringes. Many vendors use an ultrasonic jewelry cleaner to break up the large clumps of spores. This is a great advancement in the process, because spores stuck in the middle of a clump hardly ever get a chance to germinate due to remaining dry and out of reach of the nutrients in the spawn. However, new folks think they can 'see' spores, and thus feel ripped off when they are actually receiving a superior product.
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InvisibleTippinthru
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Re: Attention pissed off cutomers.. [Re: Yamidude]
    #5934983 - 08/05/06 03:59 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

A large thick P. cubensis fruit, on average will discharge approximately between 3 & 4 hundred MILLION spores.


So, lets be conservative, and estimate 200 million.

Then, to save arguments one way or the other.

Let's cut that to 100 MILLION

If, the spore solution was then "sonicated", in a ultrasonic device.

And, the same solution contained a "surfactant", like Jet Dry.

Those spores would be almost perfectly dispersed throughout the solution.
And, would not generally clump back together.

Given those assumptions, based on well researched criteria.

One could make 100 ten ml syringes from a single spore print.

Each syringe would contain approximately 1 MILLION SPORES (+/- 20%).

And, the resulting syringe would be clear, to the naked eye.

I would wager, 1 MILLION spores in a 10 ml syringe.

IS ADEQUATE TO DO THE JOB. :tongue: :grin:

(my significant other uses a Patterson 1 gallon ultrasonic, just for that purpose)


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OfflineEraserhead
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Re: Attention pissed off cutomers.. [Re: Tippinthru]
    #5935245 - 08/05/06 07:01 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

I think this needs stickied for a while...


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InvisibleS33D
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Re: Attention pissed off cutomers.. [Re: RogerRabbit]
    #5936133 - 08/06/06 02:48 AM (17 years, 5 months ago)

Quote:

RogerRabbit said:
Many vendors use an ultrasonic jewelry cleaner to break up the large clumps of spores.




geez there really is no end to the creativity of a determined mycofile! :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
how people come up with some of these teks and gadgets blows me away!


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Offlinetonyperez420
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Re: Attention pissed off cutomers.. [Re: CoolMojo]
    #5983823 - 08/21/06 12:57 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

Quote:

CoolMojo said:
It happens, no vendor I don't care what anybody says will have a 100% perfect record with syringes.





I will argue this point

Ralph has mastered the art of making syringes and spore prints, EVERY SINGLE syringe I ever bought off of him has been viable.

I see that you dont care what anybody thinks, so I may have just wasted my time.

And for the record, I  :heart: seeing the spores in my syringes

thanks Ralph  :grin:

btw I have gotten clear syringes from Ralph that worked just as well as those that did have spores visible to the naked eye, but most of them were jam packed with spores


Edited by tonyperez420 (08/21/06 01:05 PM)


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Invisiblemonstermitch
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Re: Attention pissed off cutomers.. [Re: tonyperez420]
    #5983932 - 08/21/06 02:02 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

it's nice that you like your products,

however even Ralph can make a mistake.
everyone can.

no one person or company is without fault.
trust me,
or just your common sense.

Once you do this for a few more years or whatever, you'll come to
find this out on your own.

however, I will say that if Ralph does make a mistake,
he's all over it and makes it better immediately.

humans are not perfect, nor will we ever be.
things wouldn't be any fun.


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Offlinetonyperez420
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Re: Attention pissed off cutomers.. [Re: monstermitch]
    #5984052 - 08/21/06 03:04 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

Quote:

monstermitch said:
it's nice that you like your products,

however even Ralph can make a mistake.
everyone can.

no one person or company is without fault.
trust me,
or just your common sense.

Once you do this for a few more years or whatever, you'll come to
find this out on your own.

however, I will say that if Ralph does make a mistake,
he's all over it and makes it better immediately.

humans are not perfect, nor will we ever be.
things wouldn't be any fun.




I could only speak from my own experience


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Invisiblemonstermitch
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Re: Attention pissed off cutomers.. [Re: tonyperez420]
    #5984062 - 08/21/06 03:07 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

common sense trumps your experience,

sorry.


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Offlinetonyperez420
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Re: Attention pissed off cutomers.. [Re: monstermitch]
    #5986214 - 08/22/06 09:41 AM (17 years, 5 months ago)

Quote:

monstermitch said:
common sense trumps your experience,

sorry.




common sense, LOLZ I dont really understand

I guess I am lucky


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OfflineEquilibriuM
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Re: Attention pissed off cutomers.. [Re: tonyperez420]
    #5993274 - 08/24/06 05:16 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

I had a bad one from ralph. he replaced with 2  :biggrin:


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