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 SouthernGent
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 Re: Third Ryche uses Karma to change Stamets research  [Re: AssHumper10K]
#596894 - 04/02/02 06:09 PM (22 years, 6 months ago) |
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ohhhhhh Ass10k takes it to the hoop hard with some heavy duty mushroom cultivation knowledge... you are correct Ass I just read page 28.
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#597512 - 04/03/02 10:35 AM (22 years, 6 months ago) |
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 Anno
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Re: The Hawks Eye new lower price structure [Re: Anonymous]
#597585 - 04/03/02 12:00 PM (22 years, 6 months ago) |
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>I have never read that mycelium from different spore
>matches work well together to fruit as one strong culture. In
>fact, that goes against everything that I have learned about
>edible cultures of the years and I am certain that pcubs are
>no exception to this "rule".
Well, one never stops learning...
GGMM, 3rd edition 2001, pg. 135ff
"Theoretically, the germination of spores in mass creates multitudes of strains that will compete with one another for nutrients. This has been long accepted as one of the Ten Commandments of Mushroom Culture. Scientists in China, whose knowledge had not been contaminated by such preconceptions first developed spore-mass inoculation techniques to an industrial level. Only recently have Western mycologist recognized that a large community of spore matings behaves quite differently than paired individuals. San Antonio and Hanners (1984) are some of the first Western mycologists to realize that grain spawn of Oyster mushrooms could be effectively created via spore-mass inoculation.
The most aggressive strains out-race the least aggressive strains to capture the intended habitat.
Recent studies have shown that these aggressive strains overpower and invade the cellular network of competing strains. Dr. Alan Rayner (1988) in studies at the University of Bath described this form of genetic theft as "non-self fusions" between genetically different mycelial systems within the same species. This ability to adapt has made fungi one of the most successful examples of evolution in the biological arena.
Spore-mass fermentation techniques are not yet widely used by North American or European cultivators. Concern for preserving strain stability, lack of experience, equipment, and intellectual conflicts are contributing factors. In mushroom culture, intransigence to new ideas has prevailed, often because the slightest variation from the norm has resulted in expensive failures. Since the health of any economy is based on its diversity, the emergence of organically minded gourmet mushroom growers is creating a fertile intellectual habitat for many innovative technologies."
Edited by Anno (04/03/02 12:02 PM)
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#597599 - 04/03/02 12:10 PM (22 years, 6 months ago) |
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Anno
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Re: The Hawks Eye new lower price structure [Re: Anonymous]
#597609 - 04/03/02 12:21 PM (22 years, 6 months ago) |
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>So, what of the lesser strain inhibiting the activity of the
>stronger? What do you think is being refered to in that
>statement Anno?
Those both statements clearly contradict each other.
This shows that mushroom science is evolving over time and that some theories people had were obviously not true.
So, according to the newer findings multispore culture isn?t as bad as one thought 20 years ago.
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#597903 - 04/03/02 06:50 PM (22 years, 6 months ago) |
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Re: The Hawks Eye new lower price structure [Re: Anonymous]
#598102 - 04/03/02 11:02 PM (22 years, 6 months ago) |
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Don't give up single strain isolation as a means to find a WINNER substrain.
Anastomosis is not new science!!!!
Multisporing should be required for VENDORS selling prints. It should also be required to make syringes from a solution that contains many prints in it. Not just dark, but diverse as well.
If psilocybe cultures were legal, that is what the majority would be getting. There is no real debate to that.
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World Spirit
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Re: The Hawks Eye new lower price structure [Re: ]
#598230 - 04/04/02 02:17 AM (22 years, 6 months ago) |
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