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datura
    #5932029 - 08/04/06 04:20 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

just delete this


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Re: datura [Re: xxxchristian69]
    #5932033 - 08/04/06 04:22 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

nevermind


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Re: datura [Re: xxxchristian69]
    #5932057 - 08/04/06 04:33 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

He obviously doesnt want to piss anyone off.

Datura is very dangerous, but I wouldnt mind talking about it.

Seriously, people come here for answers and those who bitch about any simple question need to realize that if this place is worth anything, its main function is giving and receiving information.
You could look most things up, but sometimes its not as good as just talking to people.

Although I agree there are lots of stupid questions asked on this site.


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You moron. Material is material is material.  No 'thing' fixes any situation.  If anything were so simple we would be living in a much better world.[/quote] <-----the dumbest thing I have ever read in my life.
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Re: datura [Re: yageman]
    #5932096 - 08/04/06 04:48 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

http://www.driftwoodgardens.com/rainforestdaturainoxiaangelstrumpet.htm

this site is the only site i can find that sells the seeds
i'm planning on takeing maybe 15 seeds alltho i did read once that it's better smoke them becouse you get less of a intense high what part do you smoke the flowert petal or the leafy part


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Re: datura [Re: xxxchristian69]
    #5932159 - 08/04/06 05:08 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

Why would you edit your post to say "delete this, nevermind" and then 20 minutes later come back and ask more questions? Obviously you don't want the thread deleted. I don't know anything about datura so I can't help you. Go to Erowid, seriously.


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Re: datura [Re: xxxchristian69]
    #5932171 - 08/04/06 05:12 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

Give the guy a break man.......


Seriously, I think you(chris) should try ANY of the other plant drugs before you use datura. Its not a typical hallucinogen, and its cheap because it grows wild across the globe, and nobody wants it.

Really man, try some san pedro cacti, or HBWR. They are plants you might return to after your first experience. Even if you are just into the nice psychedelic mind job and some visuals, dont use datura.

15 seeds can be ALOT for some people.

Plants you actually should try, and you canorder on the internet.

San pedro- Mescaline
HBWR seeds- LSA
morning glories- LSA
maybe some salvia- Salv. A

And even ayahuasca-
which can be way too much for some people, but it cant touch the physically and mentally threatening aspects of datura.

Just dont use datura.... But if you must, start VERY low. Smoke a hit of leaf or something...


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You moron. Material is material is material.  No 'thing' fixes any situation.  If anything were so simple we would be living in a much better world.[/quote] <-----the dumbest thing I have ever read in my life.
Thanks shroomery.


Edited by yageman (08/04/06 05:44 PM)


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Re: datura [Re: yageman]
    #5932226 - 08/04/06 05:43 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

from the trip reports i've read so far i have to try datura my only problem is from what it looks like a sitter would be a good idea i have never had a sitter for mushrooms acid lsa ect

the main thing that turns me on is the full blown 3D visuals straight seeing and talking to people that are not there never had this hapen before i mean i've triped on acid and had conversation of the sorts but i dont belive what i was doing was an illusion


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Re: datura [Re: xxxchristian69]
    #5932237 - 08/04/06 05:49 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

Quote:

xxxchristian69 said:
from the trip reports i've read so far i have to try datura my only problem is from what it looks like a sitter would be a good idea i have never had a sitter for mushrooms acid lsa ect

the main thing that turns me on is the full blown 3D visuals straight seeing and talking to people that are not there never had this hapen before i mean i've triped on acid and had conversation of the sorts but i dont belive what i was doing was an illusion




Sigh.....

what is the deal with people and seeing shit? Is it really that great?

I had one very visual acid trip that was in no way as euphoric and spiritual as my slightly visual mush trips.

Are you reading anything else on erowid aside from seeing shit? Because I read about datura there and most people didn;t have much positive to say.


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Re: datura [Re: xxxchristian69]
    #5932239 - 08/04/06 05:50 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

The visuals are nothing like any drug you have ever used. Hardly psychedelic. Its more like being stuck in a dream.

I would hardly call them 3D visuals. They are projections of a sort of dream state. Unlike the beautiful and 3D geometric patterns caused by actual psychedelics.

SO again, just dont use datura, but if you do, your onto something when it comes to your need for a sitter.

Also to acheive those kinds of realistic/3D dream states, you have to take more than most people would ever dream of trying. Those kinds of doses are SO HARD on your body and mind.

Id never recommend it, and it would NOT sit well with most people.

Ive had some very heavy trips, many of them, I dont even put datura into that category. It really was not as astonishing as any other trip on any real psychedelic.
Good lord, dont ever take it to see shit. I know thats why some people use the classic hallucinogens. But christ man, dont do it so you can "see shit". I dont know your motive but I just thought I should say that to back up the last persons post.


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You moron. Material is material is material.  No 'thing' fixes any situation.  If anything were so simple we would be living in a much better world.[/quote] <-----the dumbest thing I have ever read in my life.
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Re: datura [Re: xxxchristian69]
    #5932250 - 08/04/06 05:54 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

What you're planning on is called an "acute datura intoxication" in the ER and even there it has an 8-12% fatality rate.

as for the "visuals" - its another world, the world of delirium and psychosis.
Just wait until you meet the Demons.

On the doses you seem to be planning (though I think there will be no dosing of any kind, you'll probably just take a bunch of it) people have stabbed out their own eyes and cut off their penis with scissors.
They were people like you and me before and after the Datura, but during it they were fullblown psychotics.


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Re: datura [Re: Asante]
    #5932259 - 08/04/06 05:57 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

or, "serious and yet acute datura poisening"........

As for the demons....hehe, just dont use the stuff. It could be considered to be pretty damn evil at times.


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You moron. Material is material is material.  No 'thing' fixes any situation.  If anything were so simple we would be living in a much better world.[/quote] <-----the dumbest thing I have ever read in my life.
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Re: datura [Re: Asante]
    #5932265 - 08/04/06 06:00 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

as for the "visuals" - its another world, the world of delirium and psychosis.
Just wait until you meet the Demons.


well my name is mr mushroom eater great mental DEMON GREETER


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Re: datura [Re: xxxchristian69]
    #5932270 - 08/04/06 06:04 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

Quote:

xxxchristian69 said:
as for the "visuals" - its another world, the world of delirium and psychosis.
Just wait until you meet the Demons.


well my name is mr mushroom eater great mental DEMON GREETER




I don't mean to be rude but if that's your idea about drugs that you've never done:

God you're an idiot...shit....


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Re: datura [Re: Afroshroomerican]
    #5932276 - 08/04/06 06:06 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

it was a joke


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Re: datura [Re: xxxchristian69]
    #5932308 - 08/04/06 06:17 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

If your going to do datura, then you should probably extract the goodies out. Just so you can get a more exact messurement of how much you are taking.


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Re: datura [Re: MustNotBe]
    #5932403 - 08/04/06 06:59 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

Through a friend I learned that Will came home and began talking to imaginary friends. He was as blurred and blind as I was if not more. It wasn't the incoherant gibberish or the psychotic look in his eyes that worried his family. It was the fact that he had been found eating carnation baby formula and when asked what the hell he was doing replied, 'I'm eating McDonalds'


i got this from the trip reports of datura

AND YOUR TELLING ME NOT TO DO THIS

sounds like fun


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Re: datura [Re: xxxchristian69]
    #5932414 - 08/04/06 07:02 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

Ugh, go fucking huff some duster dude. I hear that gives a better trip than datura.


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Re: datura [Re: Afroshroomerican]
    #5932427 - 08/04/06 07:06 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

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Afroshroomerican said:


God you're an idiot...shit....




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Re: datura *DELETED* [Re: xxxchristian69]
    #5932475 - 08/04/06 07:24 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

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Re: datura [Re: Psilicubes]
    #5932685 - 08/04/06 08:44 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

If this is guy is so gung-ho about trying datura, despite all the warnings and bad trip reports, then he should go ahead and fucking do it. It's not like we'll be losing one of the brilliant minds of our time.


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Re: datura [Re: DrGeek]
    #5932705 - 08/04/06 08:50 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

Then lets just push all the retards, and republicans (same-difference) off a cliff. Im all for it.


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Re: datura [Re: DrGeek]
    #5932709 - 08/04/06 08:51 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

Don't do datura. If you really MUST take a drug to see "real shit" like that, I think ODing Benadryl (Diphenhydramine) is safer for you. No, ODing Benadryl isn't safe, but you probably won't end up in the emergency room from one try. My dad's a nurse in the ER, he once got a guy on datura . . . he'd eaten .75g of ground Datura seeds, and he was fully psychotic.


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Re: datura [Re: va_shroomer]
    #5932752 - 08/04/06 09:04 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

I have a good story to illustrate datura use:

4 kids at Texas State university made tea from some of the datura that grows around campus. various reports from others were peiced together to make sense of what happened next.
the four were seen in the commonm room of the dorm playing a loud and lively game of cards, without cards. this led into them taking turns jumping off the table facefirst into the ground. 2 split off and survived the night in their room without only minor incident. Another chewed his toungue up and was found bloody in the elevator and taken to the hospital. The last girl broke off from the group and tried to make it to the Square (where the bars are), crawling the whole way, about a mile, on asphalt. she had ripped all the skin off her hands and knees and was picked up by the police.

She never returned from that trip. whe is still held in a mental asylum for treatment. BUT GET THIS! one drug they use to help her return to "normal" is LSD! thats crazy!

this is a true story, there are better ways to get high kids.


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Re: datura [Re: Omnicracker]
    #5932836 - 08/04/06 09:24 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)



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Re: datura [Re: xxxchristian69]
    #5932846 - 08/04/06 09:26 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

Don Juan was a phoney. Do some research on the guy first.


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Re: datura [Re: va_shroomer]
    #5932860 - 08/04/06 09:30 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

thats funny becouse i learned how to dreamwalk if that what you call it from his books


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Re: datura [Re: xxxchristian69]
    #5932870 - 08/04/06 09:32 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

i learned how to make contact with other beings i learned that i can see my life line through my dreams ( all the things we do in reality are first done in dreams) i learned about the abilty of knowing fate and even experianced it multiple times you mite call it seeing the future lol


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Re: datura [Re: xxxchristian69]
    #5932878 - 08/04/06 09:34 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

I'm not saying he was full of shit, just that he wasn't actually in the amazon. And how come all the stupid ones who can't spell, punctuate, or capitalize, are the ones who claim to be shamans on this forum?

I'm leaving this thread anyways, it's gone from idiocy to flame-war. Listen to what we're telling you, if you want to do it go right ahead, it's your choice, we're just presenting you with the facts.


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Re: datura [Re: xxxchristian69]
    #5932879 - 08/04/06 09:35 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

maybe he was a phony but that doesnt mean everything he teached was


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Re: datura [Re: xxxchristian69]
    #5933295 - 08/05/06 12:03 AM (17 years, 5 months ago)

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xxxchristian69 said:
teached



lol...taught.
Anyways, yes this has turned into a flame thread. Stating the facts to him is enough...flaming is not needed. You guys are acting like our govt. and trying to dictate what he should/should not put in his own body. As for his reasons...we all have our own reasons, and they have nothing to do with what the next guy thinks. Give him your warnings, say your piece, but there is no reason to be arseholes to each other here in the forum. I for one do not think it is a safe thing to do, and would advise against it. If you happen to do it...i would like you to do a trip report, and pm me the link if you would.


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Re: datura [Re: unseenat17]
    #5933658 - 08/05/06 02:05 AM (17 years, 5 months ago)

Datura aint the devil and you are not some great source for the information if you are complaining about datura users(for those who are doing so).

Lets keep making fun of the guy because we have some "one liner" types that might belittle him, statements that only apply to our ever more ignorant understanding of the drug.


If you know how to use it you dont have much to worry about. For all those other folks who wont mess with it and could care less, realize that you should not ever mess with it. If not simply because you can not fathom anyone using it responsibly thus far. Thats a flaw, and you should not feel ready to use it in that state of mind. That is untill you shed your bullshit preconceived notions.

Its a terrible drug, but can be a good one. You HAVE heard of many bad trips via mushrooms etc. Unless you are ready for it, DO NOT USE DATURA.............. Its more difficult that you can imagine unless you have actually experienced it. Its not a bad drug. It is however potentially dangerous.

Those are the facts.

To all those telling people its just a flat out stupid idea, you obviously know nothing about datura type plants.

Learn how to treat people. Attacking potential datura users is not cool at all.........

It shows how little you know about the plant/related plants, really though, you misunderstand the wide variety of people out there..... Dont act like the king of the world if you have no idea what you are talking about. Its not a bad drug. Most morons just fuck up the whole trip for themselves in one way or another. That shit isnt shrooms people!


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You moron. Material is material is material.  No 'thing' fixes any situation.  If anything were so simple we would be living in a much better world.[/quote] <-----the dumbest thing I have ever read in my life.
Thanks shroomery.


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    #5933676 - 08/05/06 02:26 AM (17 years, 5 months ago)

thx...couldnt have said it better myself. Everyone is always criticizing others that are bashing shrooms and weed seeming they know nothing about it, when they consider them dangerous. Im sure datura is jus like some people diving head first into shrooms/salvia and commin out a lil hurt. You have to be responsible. I will be honest in saying ill probably never try it myself though.


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    #5933733 - 08/05/06 03:52 AM (17 years, 5 months ago)

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I'm not saying he was full of shit, just that he wasn't actually in the amazon. And how come all the stupid ones who can't spell, yadayadayada




don juan wasnt in the amazon, he lived in northern mexico, supposedly. just to clarify


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    #5933758 - 08/05/06 04:29 AM (17 years, 5 months ago)

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it has an 8-12% fatality rate.




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Re: datura [Re: yageman]
    #5933888 - 08/05/06 07:57 AM (17 years, 5 months ago)

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yageman said: Unless you are ready for it, DO NOT USE DATURA..............




Does he seem ready to you?


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    #5934136 - 08/05/06 10:36 AM (17 years, 5 months ago)

Yageman sounds like someone with experience.

Having experience with Datura, Belladonna, Henbane and Angels Trumpet myself I'll answer how I see it.

Fuck no.
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OK, here's the more elaborate answer:
He doesn't seem at all ready.
First of all he seems to have no idea what the experience entails. He has a caricature impression of the effects, and ignores a hell of a lot of negative reporting on Erowid, and even an official Erowid warning in the Datura Vault. He comes here, he hears us speak about fullblown psychosis, delirium and 8-12% fatalities and he doesnt ask safety questions. Not one!

Just about any mature adult has some impression of their own mortality, which leads me to believe the threadstarter might in fact be eleven years old.

Furthermore: he displays NO SIGNS of pharmacological knowledge, so he'll probably just grab a bunch like those poor suckers in the Erowid experience reports.

In the other thread the dangers of CCC are being explained to someone intent on taking 8 CCC. He barges into the thread and says said user should "take 16 of them" if he wants to "do it properly".
OK, thats a 5 day forumban right there.

Thats not a troll, thats someone who hasn't got a CLUE about the dangers of drugs, who doesnt seem interested in health issues, who makes "cool" statements, has a controversial name and discusses either drugs you can buy in the pharmacy or plants which grow near his house.
Or, in other words, an 11yo, at least it looks so to me.

He doesnt seem ready one bit, but he's almost ready for the ER.


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    #5934151 - 08/05/06 10:43 AM (17 years, 5 months ago)

I was looking on erowid yesterday, and saw nowhere about the fatality rate of datura. I might of missed it...anyone have a link to that? Second, fullblown psychosis might appeal to him, i know ex-roomate and ex-bestfriend would probably love to try this stuff cuz he is the person that wants to try EVERYTHING for some reason...but thats jus him. You can die from OD'ing on a variety of drugs like morphine, heroin, meth, and coke to jus name a few...and i bet theres a lot of people on this thread that has tried them. And i do believe he knows what it entails figurin you guys have been telling him for the last three pages of posting.


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    #5934240 - 08/05/06 11:13 AM (17 years, 5 months ago)

Instead of dosage advice Erowid gives this warning:

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As a general rule, Erowid neither recommends nor discourages the use of any psychoactive, however, in the case of tropane alkaloid-containing Solanaceae plants, we think it is important to note that an overwhelming majority of those who describe to us their use of Datura (and to a lesser extent, Belladonna, Brugmansia and Brunfelsia) find their experiences extremely mentally and physically unpleasant and not infrequently physically dangerous.
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There is no way to guess a reasonable dose, because potency of the plant material itself and appropriate dose for an individual appear to vary so much. The question of what "reasonable" means for something that so often leads to such ridiculously negative effects is hard to say.
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As an admixture plant in some traditional ayahuasca brews, smoking blends, or other preparations, parts of these plants are generally used in very low doses. Because of the serious adverse consequences associated with tropane alkaloids (scopolamine, atropine, hyoscyamine) intoxication and the wide variation in doses used, we are unwilling to even speculate about specific dosages for the leaves, flowers, and seeds of these plants.
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If you are considering ingesting Datura-group plants, please read extensively from the collected experience reports and never take them without a reliable, sober sitter who understands the likely health issues and who can stop you from walking in front of traffic. Please note that fatalities from ingesting Datura do occur and hospitalizations seem to be quite common, in spite of the relatively low rates of psychoactive use of these plants.





Which is pretty stiff and comparable only to their solvent huffing warning.

The fatality rates information comes from a german herbalist book, but most herbalist books that go in-depth will tell you this.


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