Home | Community | Message Board
You are not signed in.
Sign In New Account
Forum Index Search Posts Trusted Vendors Highlights Galleries FAQ User List Chat Store Random Growery

Sporeworks
This site includes paid links. Please support our sponsors.

Mushrooms, Mycology and Psychedelics > Mushroom Hunting and Identification
Threaded Mode Threaded  Previous topic Previous  View all topics Index  Next topic Next 

Welcome to the Shroomery Message Board! You are experiencing a small sample of what the site has to offer. Please login or register to post messages and view our exclusive members-only content. You'll gain access to additional forums, file attachments, board customizations, encrypted private messages, and much more!

Shop: North Spore North Spore Mushroom Grow Kits & Cultivation Supplies   PhytoExtractum Maeng Da Thai Kratom Leaf Powder   MagicBag.co All-In-One Bags That Don't Suck   Kraken Kratom Red Vein Kratom   Left Coast Kratom Buy Kratom Extract   Unfolding Nature Unfolding Nature: Being in the Implicate Order   Mushroom-Hut Mono Tub Substrate   Myyco.com Golden Teacher Liquid Culture For Sale   Sporeworks.EU Spores for European Microscopy

Jump to first unread post Pages: 1
Some of these posts are very old and might contain outdated information. You may wish to search for newer posts instead.
Identifying psilocybe
    #5932025 -

I've heard that if the mushroom bruises blue AND its spore print is purple brown, then its safe to eat and >90% chance its a potent psilocybe. Is this true?

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: Identifying psilocybe [Re: philipmulberry]
    #5932072 -

somewhat true
, just because it bruises blue and has a purple spore print doesnt mean you can eat it...IMO
Have it ID'ed by someone who knows its a psilocybe
When it's ID'ed by either someone who has the knowledge or someone who has eaten it before then i'd say its safe to ingest
thats my opinion  :thumbup:


Have Phun... :tripping:
B Safe.. :peace:


--------------------
Been you to have any spike, man?.

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: Identifying psilocybe [Re: RandomHero]
    #5932248 -

The spore print is the most exact way to positively ID a shroom. So yes I would feel pretty confident with blue bruises, a positive sporeprint, and the correct appearance your looking for.

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: Identifying psilocybe [Re: DarkSideMoon]
    #5932323 -

I agree with RandomHero. Don't rely on two characteristics for a positive ID, unless you already know what you are doing, which from the looks of it, you do not (no offense)

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: Identifying psilocybe [Re: philipmulberry]
    #5932407 -

I wouldn't rely on that method.  A lot of folks jump on this board and claim that their mushroom bruises blue (when it doesn't), or that the spore print is purple (when it's not). 

Some people can see colours without magic mushrooms, all they need is a little wishful thinking.  :wink:


--------------------

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: Identifying psilocybe [Re: CureCat]
    #5933545 -

I had a look at the video taken from Psy. Conf. in Amsterdam 1999 and in this lecture with Paul Stamets, he says the if the mushroom bruises blue and the spore print is purple brown - then it can not hurt to eat it and the chances are that the shroom it potent.

Well, even though he might be right I guess CureCat's post is quite illuminating; many people doesn't know for certain what it actually looks like when a mushroom bruises bluish and can not separate between purple brown spores, and other kinds of spore colors.

So even if Paul is right, was it not kind of crazy of him to say this - or did he have in mind the present audience when he said what he said?!

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: Identifying psilocybe [Re: philipmulberry]
    #5933886 -

I think he did have his audience in mind when he said it. He also says it in his psilocybes of the world book. But we've seen time and again on these boards how people will imagine bruising because they want so very badly to get high.

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: Identifying psilocybe [Re: xmush]
    #5934048 -

If you have the expertice and find a mushroom that you are sure bruises blue and have purple brown spores... then he's right, isn't he?

I wouldn't call myself an expert and I will not rely solely on this identinfication technique, but I am curios if its true.

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: Identifying psilocybe [Re: philipmulberry]
    #5934055 -

Well if a mushroom has purple-brown spores and bruises blue there is a very good chance that it is an active. There is no real simple set of rules or characteristics that make something automatically active. The only way to be totally sure is to ID it to species.

For example: Stropharia aeruginosa can have blue and green on both the cap/stem and a purple brown print, yet is not active. That is one that I can think of off of the top of my head.

Also there are active Psilocybes that may not bruise blue (or at least not very obviously) - so being able to identify to genus and then species is a more effective way.

Not to mention someone might get the spore print color wrong or think they see bluing when they really don't. Of course there are many species that can be blue or exhibit bluing and aren't active.


--------------------
Immortal / Temporarily Retired
The OG Thread Killer
My mushroom hunting gallery

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: Identifying psilocybe [Re: philipmulberry]
    #5934057 -

Again for the 500th time, all of the descriptions and habitats for finding both Psilocybe and Panaeolus mushrooms are given in step by step difinitions are int he Shroomery's ultimate shroom Guide her ein the friggin facs.

Comon mods, when people asked this same question over and over and no one gies a proper answer.

Here is the brief description of the many characteristics used in keying the genera psilocybe.

XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX
XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX

How To Identify Psilocybian Mushrooms

Chocolate to Purple Colored Spores and Sporeprints

In order to properly identify and key a particular species of fungi
to its genus one must first make a sporeprint. A sporeprint will tell
which family a particular species of mushroom belongs to. First cut
the stem from off of the mushroom cap and then place the cap of the
mushroom face down on a piece of white paper. Next place an empty jar
over the cap of the mushroom. This will allow the spores of the mushroom
to settle on the paper below and the glass jar will keep the spores
from blowing away. After 20 minutes or more, remove the jar from the
paper and lift the mushroom cap from the paper.

Psilocybian mushrooms described in this guide can be identified by
an enzyme which occurs in fungi containing the alkaloids psilocybin
and/or psilocin, with an indole nucleus and producing by an oxidative
process, a blue pigment.


When the flesh of the stem or cap of a fresh mushroom is bruised or
damaged (whether from human handling, wind, insects or falling objects),
an enzyme occurs which oxidises as it comes into contact with air. This
causes the damaged area of the mushroom to turn blue or blue green.
Many species of psilocybian fungi have stems ranging in color from a
pallid yellow white to an off white. Bluing in psilocybian mushrooms
is common after damage has occurred. The bluing reaction occurs within
10 to 20 minutes after human handling but may already be noticible in
fungi damaged from natural elements and from bluing with aging.

The genus Psilocybe is quite large, consisting of over 246 known species.
More than 114 of these Psilocybe species are entheogenic. Psilocybe
species have a wide variety of habitats which include: dung, manured
soil, sandy soil, pastures, meadows, lawns, woods, among decayed twigs
and leaves, spaghnum moss, woodchips and bark mulch.

Psilocybe species have certain characteristics common throughout the
genus. These include: a conic to bell shaped cap, usually with a nipple
or umbo at the top. The margins of the caps are often incurved when
young. Some caps become convex and flat with age, others become wavy.
The caps are viscid when moist and the margin is translucent-striate
(meaning that the lines of the gill plates are visable on the caps when
moist). Psilocybe species have a viscid pellicle (a film or membrane
which can easily be separated from the cap).

Colors of the caps may range from a dark olive brown or chestnut rusty
color when fresh to pale yellow when dried. The caps are hygrophanous,
meaning that they change color as they dry. A slight bluing may occur
along the outer edges of the caps when damaged. In some species this
bluing is very intense. The color of the gills may range from cinnamon
brown to dark chocolate or purple brown. The color of the spores are
also chocolate to purple brown. The stems are hollow with a fine pith.

Some species such as Psilocybe semilanceata (the "liberty cap") can
be wrapped around the finger like a piece of string. Certain varieties
(psilocybe cubensis and/or Psilocybe subcubensis, Psilocybe fimetaria
and Psilocybe stuntzii) usually have a dark chocolate-purple ring around
the top of the stem where the mushroom cap has detached itself from
the stem. The purple color of the ring on the stems of some Psilocybe
species is due to spores falling on the stem after the cap of the mushrooms
has opened. The color of the stems may range from a pallid yellow or
yellow-brown to olive brown while other species have pure white stems.
Bluing on the white stemmed varieties is usually very intense. In some
regions, some species occur throughout the year depending on their locations
and and climatic environments.

There are, of course, certain chemical applications used to speed up
the bluing reaction which occurs in psilocybian mushrooms.I have removed the metol tests because they are not really necessary for identification and metol is hard to come by these days.

XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX
XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX

mj

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: Identifying psilocybe [Re: mjshroomer]
    #5934092 -

But the whole point of a discussion forum is to discuss these issues again and again, updating our knowledge, improving our explanations, and refining everyone's understanding of these subjects. 90% of the posts could be answered by pointing someone to a FAQ or your site, but then there would be no point in having this fun and vibrant community to be a part of. And no offense MJ, but your site is difficult to navigate and frankly your background, fonts, and layout give me a headache.

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: Identifying psilocybe [Re: xmush]
    #5934707 -

Ah great, so let me see if I got this down right; if the shroom bruises blue and the spore print is purple brown then it is not dangerous, and if you're lucky it's even an active one.

So, Paul Stamets was right (go figure :wink:), but his advice might not be such a good one to follow if you do not have enough hunting experience.

Also there is always the freak chanse that you find a new species which no one has seen before, which happens to bruise blue and have purple brown spores and also is deadly. One could only be so unlucky :frown:

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: Identifying psilocybe [Re: xmush]
    #5935868 -

XMUSH, I did not ask anyone here to go to the mj site. I said there is a perfectly good shroom guide written here on how to find, where to find, what to look for, etc on magic shrooms.

I have nothing against discussions here in the forums but that page I posted here is from the Shroomery;s Ultimate Shroom Guide. Not the MJ site. In fact, it was a sticky here for several years.

Now no one hardly reads it at all.

It was written especially for this site.

Anyway, that is your chioice if no one tells people to read up .

You do know that many people who come here are not really intersted in learning about the shrooms other than where can they find your patches.

Anyway, have a shroomy day. i am personally having a shitty day with no computer and I bought one today with roadkill and his son and we had a fucked day back and forth from northgate two times, left my stupid friggin visa in the bank machine. Best Buy told us they would take a check so Roadkill drove me back home to get a check book and then Best Buy would not accept my id for the check after they said they would. So we ended up at another computer shop.

i bought a friggin computer and now the sound does not work on it.

So I am not having a good day,

later

And by the way, I no longer own mj shroom world and have not since May of last year.

AS for being hard to navigate. It is actually very easy.

There are two index pages and each page goes next page or last page and each page also has a return to main index page.

So there is nothing really hard to navigate at the site.

Articles have articles, animals are in the furry section. many pages have boxed thumnails and Cambodia is easy with 9 years of travels there with five to six pages of each trip and againt he same format., The art is simple, the photograph section is simple, and for some odd reason, in 9 years of the site growing from three pages in 1999 to have over 12,661 photographs, No one has ever said anything ever to me that the site was hard to navigate. Except just now; You.

have a shroomy day

mj

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: Identifying psilocybe [Re: mjshroomer]
    #21978784 -

@ Philipmulberry Haha this made me laugh, would have to be pretty unlucky for that to happen :wink:

Edited by Trippi (07/22/15 02:55 AM)

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: Identifying psilocybe [Re: xmush]
    #26978020 -

Hello I was wondering if you have any info on Illinois as far as hunting goes. From what I have seen or should say not, Illinois has a few but for the life of me I cant find one. I grew up in the bay area and was able to find many out in CA. I have been really interested in trying to microdose psilocybe and beleive it will help me. If you can help in any way, it would be great. Thank u

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Jump to top Pages: 1

Shop: North Spore North Spore Mushroom Grow Kits & Cultivation Supplies   PhytoExtractum Maeng Da Thai Kratom Leaf Powder   MagicBag.co All-In-One Bags That Don't Suck   Kraken Kratom Red Vein Kratom   Left Coast Kratom Buy Kratom Extract   Unfolding Nature Unfolding Nature: Being in the Implicate Order   Mushroom-Hut Mono Tub Substrate   Myyco.com Golden Teacher Liquid Culture For Sale   Sporeworks.EU Spores for European Microscopy

Mushrooms, Mycology and Psychedelics > Mushroom Hunting and Identification
Threaded Mode Threaded  Previous topic Previous  View all topics Index  Next topic Next 

Similar ThreadsPosterViewsRepliesLast post
* How to identify Psilocybe Species and Panaeolus. (Illus.)
( 1 2 3 all )		 mjshroomer 65,435 52 04/15/09 12:34 PM
by Alan Rockefeller
* First time hunting - need help identifying (Psilocybe cyanescens maybe???) Danielll 6,466 6 05/03/05 11:50 PM
by Beentothere
* Psilocybe semilanceata (Liberty Caps) for New Hunters
( 1 2 3 4 all )		 ivi 140,447 63 04/29/10 11:57 AM
by German Kahuna
* Psilocybe cyanescens: Official Fall 2004 Thread
( 1 2 3 4 ... 28 29 )		 Gumby 107,173 577 12/08/14 02:56 PM
by TheShroomNinja
* non bruising Psilocybe?
( 1 2 all )		 Polecat 3,771 29 08/28/08 02:42 PM
by smokdatkush
* "Obvious Psilocybe" - Help me out... oO_wombat_Oo 2,850 7 06/18/01 05:30 AM
by Levi7
* Help with Psilocybe caerulipes steve8908 4,073 9 01/22/15 05:31 PM
by o8u
* help with id .... ? pretty sure psilocybe thechrizonic 1,421 7 09/03/04 09:49 PM
by ToxicMan

Extra information
You cannot start new topics / You cannot reply to topics
HTML is disabled / BBCode is enabled
Moderator: ToxicMan, karode13, inski, Alan Rockefeller, Duggstar, TimmiT, Anglerfish, Tmethyl, Lucis, Doc9151, Land Trout
5,972 topic views. 3 members, 4 guests and 17 web crawlers are browsing this forum.
[ Show Images Only | Sort by Score | Print Topic ]
Search this thread:

Copyright 1997-2026 Mind Media. Some rights reserved.

Generated in 0.034 seconds spending 0.009 seconds on 16 queries.