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brainfreezer187
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Quick?????????
#5928953 - 08/03/06 03:40 PM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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I am using a 1 to 4 spawn to substrate the spawn is 2 half pint BRF to coir I was wondering how much blood meal should be added to that ratio my pans are like 3 inch deep and 12 inch by 7 inch? Thanks so much i am in the process of making them right now thanks
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Yamidude
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I use coffee grounds.. I would use about 1.5 to 2 tablespoons worth..
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liamtheloser
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Re: Quick????????? [Re: Yamidude]
#5929774 - 08/03/06 09:02 PM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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For 4 pints of coir and 1 pint of substrate, I'd use 4 teaspoons, which i believe is 1 and 1/3 tablespoons.
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Yamidude
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werd, i tend to go a bit heavy on the coffee.. i'd listen to Liam..
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Re: Quick????????? [Re: Yamidude]
#5929783 - 08/03/06 09:06 PM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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You can use as much coffee grinds as you want. In fact you can spawn to 100% coffee grinds as long as you've brewed a pot of coffee through them.
He asked about blood meal. I'd suggest no more than a teaspoon for that tray. RR
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Yamidude
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Quote:
RogerRabbit said: You can use as much coffee grinds as you want. In fact you can spawn to 100% coffee grinds as long as you've brewed a pot of coffee through them.
He asked about blood meal. I'd suggest no more than a teaspoon for that tray. RR
well that's good to know.
And good idea too at least answer his question..
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liamtheloser
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Re: Quick????????? [Re: Yamidude]
#5929816 - 08/03/06 09:24 PM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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i remember a while ago I did a search for how much bloodmeal to put in for nitrogen, i believe it was no more than 4% by weight... so if you can work that out, it'll work like a charm... haha.
But yeah, coffee grounds work great for nitrogen, you should use them instead... i mean... bloodmeal and bonemeal are gross... they are blood and bones of animals (not that i'm any sort of vegetarian hippie), but seriously... you want your shrooms to be eating the blood and bones of mammals? ok, maybe i took too much shrooms, but I could just imagine your mushrooms getting a taste for blood and then actually assaulting you at night, trying to eat your bones and get to your sweet sweet marrow... aw fuck, my ride is here... peace out homies...
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SpookerShroom
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lol liam. We feed our shrooms the poop of horses on a regular basis. I was missing an 1/8th from my stash the other day, so I will now assume they got the urge for some horse poo, and went out to the local pasture and got there fixin's
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brainfreezer187
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Thanks for the inside info
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you can also use worm castings for a nitro additive
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Re: Quick????????? [Re: royer]
#5930790 - 08/04/06 08:41 AM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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royer9864 said: you can also use worm castings for a nitro additive
you may.
for worm castings, I suggest adding around 5%, no more. but with just coir, you can up that to 10%.
be very careful with adding blood meal. it is around 14% nitrogen usually. so as RR said, no more than a slight teaspoon for your mix. personally, I would use just a pinch.
you don't want your nitrogen content exceeding 3.5% or so, so only add a touch of blood meal if you are going to use it.
a touch of chicken manure can be used as well, but that stuff is around 22% nitrogen usually, so you have to be equally as careful with that stuff too.
nitrogen additives should be used with caution. you could easily make your mix too hot and ruin it.
another way you can safely add nutrients:
save the water your poo or coir soaked in for pasteurization. hydrate some vermiculite with it, and mix that into the substrate. it will add water-holding capablity and nutrient value both.
when the mycelium sucks the verm dry of nutes and water, the water can be replaced during dunking.
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monstermitch said:
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royer9864 said: you can also use worm castings for a nitro additive
you may.
for worm castings, I suggest adding around 5%, no more. but with just coir, you can up that to 10%.
Actually, worm castings or coir either one can be used as 100% of the substrate. Coffee grinds can also be used as a pure substrate.
However, my experience is that mixing as many different ingredients together as you have available works even better. Perhaps an analogy, even if it's a bad one, is we humans get more nutrition from a balanced diet rather than just eating one thing all the time. RR
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I've always had good luck mixing lots of things up, I think the balanced diet anology is a good one actually. 
Some recent cake runs had 3-4 different types of flour in them. I've got a bunch of quarts bored out of their mind waiting to be spawned at the moment, consisting of 2 different types of WBS and quinoa grains... Have spawned trays with mixtures of WBS spawn and crumbled cakes (inoculated from the same source of course.) All sorts of nonsense.
You definitely don't need to go out of your way to get all sorts of ingredients but in time you start to accumulate them as you play with things... so might as well use 'em. But as crazy as it sounds, I seem to get more consistent results by having lots of ingredients in substrates - they seem to balance out for the most part regardless of what recipes I come up with or ratios... kind of like the don't put all your eggs in one basket thinking (where the basket, is the nutritional profile of your substrate)
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Re: Quick????????? [Re: creamcorn]
#5930941 - 08/04/06 09:58 AM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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I constantly compare these guys to humans in my thought process. And I too agree, that sounds good to me too.
just remember, you can easily add too much of a good thing.
and yes, worm castings can be used as a solo substrate.
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