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I kind of want to have kids
    #5926742 - 08/02/06 08:21 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

I was thinking about what i would pass down to a kid, a son, a daughter if i ever had one. just playing around with the thought in my head, and i have to say that it felt pretty good.

untill recently i have always said that i was on the no kids band-wagon.

but lately i have had some contradictory feelings. the other day i was thinking that if i wanted to have kids, my "prime" years are almost up... and perhaps i might be missing an oportunity.


I suppose that the whole conversation is moot unless i somehow find a woman in life that i can love. but i hate to say it, but with half of all mariages ending in a divorce, and im sure that the remaining married ones arent that happy..... how do you ever know if you have found someone that you can truly spend your life with?

I rant alot about the traditional life not being for me, and not being for most people. by traditional life i mean highschool, college, job mairage kids retirement death. as it dosent work for alot of people im somewhat fearful of it, especially of its main failing component, mairage.


oh well, im going out to the bar to contemplate further, lol.

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Re: I kind of want to have kids [Re: ZippoZ] * 1
    #5926782 - 08/02/06 08:37 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

The world is far too overpopulated already without my help. All these people out there try to do thier part by conserving and recycling, but then they have a few kids and contribute more to the earths problems then I ever could. I chose years ago not to have kids and I will miss out on many things as I grow old childless. But its my way of doing my part to help out in an overpopulated, fucked up world.


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Re: I kind of want to have kids [Re: ZippoZ]
    #5926783 - 08/02/06 08:37 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

I think im a bit younger then you , but I know how you feel, but the older I seem to get the more I seen to lean towards a slow, and peaceful family life instead of living in the fast lane. Best of luck to you in figureing out what you want to do.


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Re: I kind of want to have kids [Re: ToTheSummit]
    #5926816 - 08/02/06 08:52 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

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The world is far too overpopulated already without my help.  All these people out there try to do thier part by conserving and recycling, but then they have a few kids and contribute more to the earths problems then I ever could.  I chose years ago not to have kids and I will miss out on many things as I grow old childless.  But its my way of doing my part to help out in an overpopulated, fucked up world.




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Re: I kind of want to have kids [Re: wrestler_az] * 1
    #5926862 - 08/02/06 09:08 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

I find it an interesting paradox that the people smart enough to realize that they shouldn't have kids are the ones who probobly should have them, and that the people who are ignorant of the consequences of kids are generally the ones who have them.


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Re: I kind of want to have kids [Re: EmperorKuzco]
    #5926872 - 08/02/06 09:12 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

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I find it an interesting paradox that the people smart enough to realize that they shouldn't have kids are the ones who probobly should have them, and that the people who are ignorant of the consequences of kids are generally the ones who have them.




I completely agree on that one. :thumbup:


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Re: I kind of want to have kids [Re: ZippoZ]
    #5927019 - 08/02/06 09:52 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

Zippoz, have you considered adopting a son or a daughter?  There's so many out there who could use the love you could give. 

I never ever (ever) intend on bearing any children of my own, but I am all about adopting one when I am older and more mature.  I think it's the best option for my husband and I.  (when my dreams of vandalizing the neighborhood police station have all but ended.  :wink: )


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Re: I kind of want to have kids [Re: Lily_Morgan]
    #5927101 - 08/02/06 10:06 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

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I find it an interesting paradox that the people smart enough to realize that they shouldn't have kids are the ones who probobly should have them, and that the people who are ignorant of the consequences of kids are generally the ones who have them.




I completely agree on that one. :thumbup:




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Re: I kind of want to have kids [Re: ZippoZ]
    #5927230 - 08/02/06 10:37 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

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Re: I kind of want to have kids [Re: KaptKid]
    #5927471 - 08/03/06 12:09 AM (17 years, 5 months ago)

i have conssiered adoption, but i have to admit that some of the desire to have a son or daughter comes from my desire to pass on what i believe, what i know, what truly is.

perhaps the problem in our world is people like me passing on values that i feel are correct.

what if i was to pass on beliefs that werent right, what if i was to pass on a son or daughter that were a detriment to the human condition. what if i am that detriment, and cannot do anything but pass it on/??


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Re: I kind of want to have kids [Re: ZippoZ]
    #5927510 - 08/03/06 12:22 AM (17 years, 5 months ago)

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what if i was to pass on beliefs that werent right, what if i was to pass on a son or daughter that were a detriment to the human condition. what if i am that detriment, and cannot do anything but pass it on/??




It's because you ask those questions that shows you will make a good father. It's people who don't care to have a child and one day find themselves in line that often aren't suited.

EllemyshShade, I find your consideration for children in need really inspiring, but can honestly say I can't imagine adopting. I've only just turned 19 and yet have already cherished the thought for a while of one day (by no means soon, late 20's is good for me) having a child of my own. One that I will love endlessly and will love me back. But there's something missing, something that I can't picture with having an adopted child. I don't feel bad for feeling that way because I know there are amazing people like yourself that feel the opposite way, but I can't see myself having a child that didn't come from myself.


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Re: I kind of want to have kids [Re: Solidcell]
    #5927519 - 08/03/06 12:26 AM (17 years, 5 months ago)

i'm defintely not going to have kids until i've accomplished everything i want to do, so probably never or maybe i'll adopt when i'm like 50.

if i have kids i'm going to be so harsh on them its going to be insane though. its mean to a kid to give them a normal childhood i think. up until they hit like puberty they are going to be some yogi zen monk fucking kids.


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Re: I kind of want to have kids [Re: ZippoZ]
    #5927532 - 08/03/06 12:32 AM (17 years, 5 months ago)

I want kids too. Fuck this bullshit about overpopulation. We have the technology and information necessary to sustain the world's population easily. It's simply out of stubbornness and stupidity that we don't. I, for one, plan on raising my kid to be aware and conscientious about what's going on around him, thus helping to make the world a better place.


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Re: I kind of want to have kids [Re: Silversoul]
    #5928528 - 08/03/06 12:58 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

man, this is one of those tough issues..... i still dont know what to think about children...

and once again, what i think dosent matter as im not in a posision to have a family.

im sure that one day having kids will come up between my wife/life partner and I, but untill then ill continue being confused


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"People do it every day, they talk to themselves ... they see themselves as they'd like to be, they don't have the courage you have, to just run with it."


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Re: I kind of want to have kids [Re: ZippoZ]
    #5928545 - 08/03/06 01:03 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

kids are so amazingly cool

they will change your life, for the better

and those that say they dont want to help overpopulate the world , etc... have children, raise them with your ideals and help make a better world for all..

all the good/smart/compassionate people that want to sit on the evolution side lines.....for shame even in death you'll let them win....forever


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Re: I kind of want to have kids [Re: ZippoZ]
    #12603935 - 05/21/10 12:50 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

I want children...

I'm a caring, supportive and intelligent person. Trouble is, my girlfriend of 3 years said she never wants kids. This sucks so much. I love her, but i'm not going to smoke my way to infertility and waste my prime, I'm seriously considering sperm donation to spread my seed, although deep down I want to be a father. Yes I am a selfish gene, I don't want my genetic legacy to be annihilated and when Im 30/40 I know I will be craving the family experience soooo bad.


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Re: I kind of want to have kids [Re: ZippoZ]
    #12603946 - 05/21/10 12:52 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

I'd really like to have kids someday, I realized last time I was tripping that it's actually really important to me. But I'm too young and there's a lot I need to accomplish still.


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Re: I kind of want to have kids [Re: goobler]
    #12603951 - 05/21/10 12:53 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

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kids are so amazingly cool

they will change your life, for the better

and those that say they dont want to help overpopulate the world , etc... have children, raise them with your ideals and help make a better world for all..

all the good/smart/compassionate people that want to sit on the evolution side lines.....for shame  even in death you'll let them win....forever



That's a good idea and all, raise your kids "the right way" and help them change the world.

But what will really happen is you try to raise them right, but the kid is broken by the system, then reports you to authorities for using illegal drugs and wins a medal


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Re: I kind of want to have kids [Re: sonar]
    #12603954 - 05/21/10 12:53 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

only way i would have kids is if i had a huge home and lots of land in which i have now but i cant stand when i see children packed like rats in a small home its fuckin stupid to have like ten kids when you know your ass is poor and your home is to tiny


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Re: I kind of want to have kids [Re: sonar]
    #12603970 - 05/21/10 12:56 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

just shoot some loads in the old lady and keep her in the basement for nine months.

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Re: I kind of want to have kids [Re: sonar]
    #12603981 - 05/21/10 12:57 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

I'm in a similar thing too, even though I'm trying my best to dismiss it. Possible mid life crisis at 25? :laugh:

I've not wanted children and even thought of having an operation so I can never have one. My boyfriend has a son and when I see him I try and pass on my maternal instincts onto him, but for me personally having kids deems itself pointless (I said personally).

Could just get a cat and annoy the fuck out of it until he/she turns 9 and leaves home. Replace and start again....? :laugh:

I would always say its best to sit on your ideas for a bit if they are major like this, see how you feel. Nothing else really.


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Re: I kind of want to have kids [Re: ZippoZ]
    #12603983 - 05/21/10 12:57 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

I don't have the urge to have kids of my own, but if I really wanted them I would adopt. Why be selfish and bring another child into this world when there are so many orphaned kids out there that need a good home?


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Re: I kind of want to have kids [Re: ToTheSummit]
    #12603998 - 05/21/10 01:00 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

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The world is far too overpopulated already without my help.  All these people out there try to do thier part by conserving and recycling, but then they have a few kids and contribute more to the earths problems then I ever could.  I chose years ago not to have kids and I will miss out on many things as I grow old childless.  But its my way of doing my part to help out in an overpopulated, fucked up world.



I sort of feel the same way. I'd rather adopt if I had to have a kid. There are so many kids that don't have anyone because most people want something of their flesh and blood.

I feel horrible seeing more neighbourhoods being built where the was once trees, rivers, animals, LIFE. And think about how many kids were your in your school, then think about how many kids in total those former classsmates are going to pump out. Then think about our fragile planet with its every shrinking space. For the sake of Earth, I wouldn't feel right having a child now.


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Re: I kind of want to have kids [Re: LuNaTiX]
    #12604064 - 05/21/10 01:09 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

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I think im a bit younger then you , but I know how you feel, but the older I seem to get the more I seen to lean towards a slow, and peaceful family life instead of living in the fast lane. Best of luck to you in figureing out what you want to do.


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Re: I kind of want to have kids [Re: ZippoZ]
    #12604134 - 05/21/10 01:23 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

lol I think you would make a great father, man. You are smart and street savvy, while maintaining a cool life. This world needs more smart kids to guide(or stay away from) the rest of the morons out there. There are very few people that I have met in my life that I would dare to make that leap with. Only a couple actually. I got very fortunate to have Danksis be the mother of Elijah. It wasn't planned and we have been split up for a couple of years now, but we get along famously. We are happier now that we are apart than in the last months of our relationship. It's strange how that works...


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Re: I kind of want to have kids [Re: eligal]
    #12604204 - 05/21/10 01:35 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

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I find it an interesting paradox that the people smart enough to realize that they shouldn't have kids are the ones who probobly should have them, and that the people who are ignorant of the consequences of kids are generally the ones who have them.




I completely agree on that one. :thumbup:







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Re: I kind of want to have kids [Re: The_Ghost]
    #12604307 - 05/21/10 01:54 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

I wish was Randy Marsh was my dad :-(


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Re: I kind of want to have kids [Re: sonar]
    #12604347 - 05/21/10 02:02 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

I never wanted them bc i was afraid i would give them the same shitty upbringing i had. My girl and i have talked a lot on this, and i've realized i would make a kickass dad! But we refuse to struggle, so its BC for now.

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Re: I kind of want to have kids [Re: Hinny]
    #12604438 - 05/21/10 02:18 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

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I'm in a similar thing too, even though I'm trying my best to dismiss it. Possible mid life crisis at 25? :laugh:

I've not wanted children and even thought of having an operation so I can never have one. My boyfriend has a son and when I see him I try and pass on my maternal instincts onto him, but for me personally having kids deems itself pointless (I said personally).

Could just get a cat and annoy the fuck out of it until he/she turns 9 and leaves home. Replace and start again....? :laugh:

I would always say its best to sit on your ideas for a bit if they are major like this, see how you feel. Nothing else really.





Oh im not pressuring or anything but yeah it's kind of something i want in my life (been a support worker for 3 years, psychology graduate -> social work?) so it's pulling me apart. But you never know, if we're still together for a long time maybe we will trust eachother, i just don't like uncertainty :frown:


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Re: I kind of want to have kids [Re: sonar]
    #12604453 - 05/21/10 02:21 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

how bout think or not wheather ot no the kid would want you


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Re: I kind of want to have kids [Re: lifeinallday]
    #12604478 - 05/21/10 02:25 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

honestly.


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Re: I kind of want to have kids [Re: lifeinallday]
    #12604543 - 05/21/10 02:34 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

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how bout think or not wheather ot no the kid would want you




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Re: I kind of want to have kids [Re: ZippoZ]
    #12604858 - 05/21/10 03:28 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

You know a man can have kids at 75 yo because sperm is more viable in more men, sometimes till they die. It is suggested a woman not have kids after 40 or so. 20-35 (give or take a couple of years) being prime age for most women. Maybe this is why so many men have that middle age crazy thing and want 20 year old women. :confused:


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Re: I kind of want to have kids [Re: blissedout]
    #12606480 - 05/21/10 08:58 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

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lol I think you would make a great father, man. You are smart and street savvy, while maintaining a cool life. This world needs more smart kids to guide(or stay away from) the rest of the morons out there. There are very few people that I have met in my life that I would dare to make that leap with. Only a couple actually. I got very fortunate to have Danksis be the mother of Elijah. It wasn't planned and we have been split up for a co


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Re: I kind of want to have kids [Re: tyrannicalrex]
    #12606486 - 05/21/10 08:59 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

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lol I think you would make a great father, man. You are smart and street savvy, while maintaining a cool life. This world needs more smart kids to guide(or stay away from) the rest of the morons out there. There are very few people that I have met in my life that I would dare to make that leap with. Only a couple actually. I got very fortunate to have Danksis be the mother of Elijah. It wasn't planned and we have been split up for a couple of years now, but we get along famously. We are happier now that we are apart than in the last months of our relationship. It's strange how that works...




Thanks so much man!
this thread was 3 years old.... and i still do want to have kids, its just a question of with who and if ever....

a family. now that would be somethin!

i was musing the other day about how i wouldnt ever be that upset if someone ive slept with got 'knocked up' and that i would be happy for it..

but the bottom line is im just too careful for that, ill probably never knock a chick up un-intentionally


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"in times of widespread chaos and confusion, it has been the duty of more advanced human beings - artists, scientists, clowns, and philosophers - to create order. In such times as ours however, when there is too much order, too much m management, too much programming and control, it becomes the duty of superior men and women and women to fling their favorite monkey wrenches into the machinery. To relieve the repression of the human spirit, they must sow doubt and disruption"

"People do it every day, they talk to themselves ... they see themselves as they'd like to be, they don't have the courage you have, to just run with it."


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